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    #7172
    Infini
    Registered Users Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    ParkRunner wrote: »
    Not sure if this was posted already, a Romanian family ended up staying in a hospital due to no space in a Garda station. The Cash case was referenced also

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/family-including-six-children-forced-to-sleep-in-hospital-as-they-had-nowhere-to-go-37312080.html

    In all honestly though if they're Roma then they should be going back to their own country if they have no job's here. Were not part of Schengen and FOM only applies if your employed.

    Ain't heartless but when they're not Irish Citizens then they're not our responsibility but the Romanian Government's.


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    #7173
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users Posts: 6,034 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Yeah but I can't see the government actually sending them home especially with SF virtue signalling about them

    "Deputy O'Broin feels the crisis has plunged to new depths.

    He said: "If anybody isn't shocked by the idea of children being forced to sleep on plastic chairs in Garda stations, or in waiting rooms in hospitals, then I think they've lost their moral compass.

    "But more importantly than that, what it shows is that the Government's rebuilding Ireland policy is failing, Eoghan Murphy is failing, and until we have a change of policy and minister my fear is things are going to continue to get worse."

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/homeless-family-of-12-forced-to-sleep-in-hospital-waiting-room-868621.html


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    #7174
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Infini wrote: »
    Were not part of Schengen and FOM only applies if your employed.
    Well that's not true.

    Some bedside reading for you as regards the limits on freedom of movement

    Directive 2004/38/EC
    Regulation (EC) No 883/2004
    Regulation (EU) No 492/2011


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    #7175
    Loves_lorries
    Site Banned Posts: 272 ✭✭Loves_lorries


    Judson Calm Remote wrote: »
    Certainly, there are bucketloads of studies out there that will blame the settled population for the plight of travellers. I'm sure academics have devoted thousands of pages to documenting discrimination against travellers and their marginalization by the settled population. But very few will have been brave enough to look at the impact of travellers' own choices on their situation.

    Consider that if Ms Cash had not left school at age 12 and got married at age 15, she might not be in the position she is in today.

    Who is to blame for that? I'm sure you'll have some contorted way to blame the settled population -- when in reality it's travellers' own culture that supports these traditions of early school leaving and couples getting married in their mid-teens. The Irish state has even passed laws saying that children have to stay in school till age 16, and that nobody can get married until age 18 -- but travellers blithely ignore those laws, taking their kids out of school regardless and shipping young couples up to the North or off to England so they can get married younger.

    Before you try to "explain the complexities of the situation that travelers as a community find themselves in," look at the situation that travellers have created for themselves.

    Any other family in Ireland that took their daughter out of school at age 12 and married her off as a child bride at age 15 would have been royally roasted in the court of public opinion, and probably faced prosecution in the courts. But when travellers do it, we're expected to say nothing and turn a blind eye. Why?

    Political correctness.

    If you fit a minority profile, you are not held to the same standards, bad behaviour can be excused

    We saw it with Serena a few days ago.

    Travellers are sacred cows of the PC Left


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    #7176
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Loves_lorries wrote: »
    Political correctness.

    If you fit a minority profile, you are not held to the same standards, bad behaviour can be excused

    We saw it with Serena a few days ago.

    Travellers are sacred cows of the PC Left

    This is also know as 'The Bigotry of Low Expectations'.


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    #7177
    Heres Johnny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    Jedidiah Lazy Moped wrote: »
    Yeah one of the realities of business is that companies will obviously say that they comply with the anti discrimination laws but that doesn't mean they actually do. And it can't be proven that they don't.

    Not personal - businesses need to make money and supporting ideals isn't always compatible with that. Corporate social responsibility/charity involvement should be the measure of how socially/ethicly aware they are.

    It's all just lip service to anti discrimination laws. There's not a thing that can be done about it because there's no way it can be proven you weren't hired because you are a young, old, woman, man, gay, straight, traveler, settled, have kids and plan to have 5 more, black, white or yellow.
    Someone else was just a better fit, hiring is subjective.

    I did hire loads of eastern Europeans though and as far as I know they're still there. They're honest, hard working and capable of the jobs that were being advertised.


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    #7178
    Loves_lorries
    Site Banned Posts: 272 ✭✭Loves_lorries


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    This is also know as 'The Bigotry of Low Expectations'.


    Of course it is but indulging dysfunctionality within the traveller community is at this stage a form of intellectual mastrubation for middle class lefties beit in media or academia, it does nothing whatsoever for travellers themselves and I don't think the luvvies even intend it to.

    Media luvvies despise the average middle class person (as much as socialist politicians) and know that not telling the truth about traveller crime and dysfunctionality annoys us, it's why they do it.


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    #7179
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    This is also know as 'The Bigotry of Low Expectations'.
    The Guardian:

    White woman choosing to be over sexualised = objectification, victim of the patriarchy, manipulated, a victim, a slave, lost.

    Black woman choosing to be over sexualised (e.g. Nicki Minaj) = empowered, celebrating black female sexuality.


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    #7180
    Loves_lorries
    Site Banned Posts: 272 ✭✭Loves_lorries


    Jedidiah Lazy Moped wrote: »
    The Guardian:

    White woman choosing to be over sexualised = objectification, victim of the patriarchy, manipulated, a victim, a slave, lost.

    Black woman choosing to be over sexualised (e.g. Nicki Minaj) = empowered, celebrating black female sexuality.

    Irish Times

    Middle class Rugby guys do bad stuff = toxic masculinity

    John Connors claims bare knuckle fights are good way to resolve disputes = champion of ethnic community and fighting discrimination.


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    #7181
    Sassygirl1999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭Sassygirl1999


    Loves_lorries wrote: »
    Irish Times

    Middle class Rugby guys do bad stuff = toxic masculinity

    John Connors claims bare knuckle fights are good way to resolve disputes = champion of ethnic community and fighting discrimination.

    apparently Romanian airlines are selling family tickets to ireland for cheap


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    #7182
    NasserShammaz
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 886 ✭✭✭NasserShammaz


    ParkRunner wrote: »
    Not sure if this was posted already, a Romanian family ended up staying in a hospital due to no space in a Garda station. The Cash case was referenced also

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/family-including-six-children-forced-to-sleep-in-hospital-as-they-had-nowhere-to-go-37312080.html

    Plenty of room in Romania Ill pay for the taxi to the airport if they want no prob


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    #7183
    jay0109
    Registered Users Posts: 2,669 ✭✭✭jay0109


    Loves_lorries wrote: »
    Irish Times

    Middle class Rugby guys do bad stuff = high jinks

    GAA middle class or soccer working class lads do bad stuff = toxic masculinity

    John Connors claims bare knuckle fights are good way to resolve disputes = champion of ethnic community and fighting discrimination.
    I fixed that for you :D


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    #7184
    Purple Mountain
    Registered Users Posts: 13,018 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Judson Calm Remote wrote: »
    What do you think Ms. Cash should name her future children?

    How about...

    Moe Cash
    Max Cash
    Seymour Cash
    Lotta Cash
    Anita Cash
    Robin Cash

    Conn Cash??
    Although it's the state that's the real con not the claimant.

    To thine own self be true



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    #7185
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Purple Mountain wrote: »
    Conn Cash??
    Although it's the state that's the real con not the claimant.

    Gimme
    Free


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    #7186
    Sassygirl1999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭Sassygirl1999


    Purple Mountain wrote: »
    Conn Cash??
    Although it's the state that's the real con not the claimant.

    cash cash


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    #7187
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    It’s time for a cashless society...


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    #7188
    Sassygirl1999
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭Sassygirl1999


    Wheeliebin30 wrote: »
    It’s time for a cashless society...

    cash aside


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    #7189
    CeilingFly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    Dannyriver wrote: »
    Aw that s alright then what s a few years and baby deaths between friends

    22% of male Traveller deaths are from car crashes. Alcohol is a contributing factor in the majority of cases.


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    #7190
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    22% of male Traveller deaths are from car crashes. Alcohol is a contributing factor in the majority of cases.

    and running from the scene of a crime is a factor in how many ???


    https://www.herald.ie/news/young-man-who-died-in-garda-pursuit-crash-was-in-city-for-funeral-37205247.html


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    #7191
    pablo128
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,221 ✭✭✭pablo128


    For everyone saying travellers can't get jobs, there is nothing stopping them starting up their own business. I'm sure there are numerous courses they can go on to learn how to run a business and they would probably qualify for a grant.


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    #7192
    Jimmy.
    Site Banned Posts: 386 ✭✭Jimmy.


    Are any of the seven children gluten intolerant?


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    #7193
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pablo128 wrote: »
    For everyone saying travellers can't get jobs, there is nothing stopping them starting up their own business. I'm sure there are numerous courses they can go on to learn how to run a business and they would probably qualify for a grant.
    People on this thread are openly admitting that they wouldn't *hire* a traveller, and you seriously think they'd be in debt to one, or trust them in the sale or supply of goods?

    Are you serious, now? People do not trust travellers.

    I've always gotten on well with travellers personally, but I don't see how anyone can claim to be this naive; there is an enormous amount of suspicion towards travellers. It's no wonder that a huge amount of them cannot find work.


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    #7194
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    here is an enormous amount of suspicion towards travellers. It's no wonder that a huge amount of them cannot find work.

    Plus the whole disproportionate amount of problems in their own community thing.


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    #7195
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jedidiah Lazy Moped wrote: »
    Plus the the whole disproportionate amount of problems in their own community thing.
    Of course. But it's a bit of a chicken and egg situation, isn't it. The community has enormous social problems, which are well documented, and they also face huge discrimination.

    I'm not sure which came first, it's probably only academic, by now.

    But something has to give, and i don't foresee the situation being resolved without both travellers and the settled community changing their ways.


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    #7196
    jippo nolan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭jippo nolan


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Cash for your Trash

    Cash for gash!


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    #7197
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    Of course. But it's a bit of a chicken and egg situation, isn't it. The community has enormous social problems, which are well documented, and they also face huge discrimination.

    I'm not sure which came first, it's probably only academic, by now.

    But something has to give, and i don't foresee the situation being resolved without both travellers and the settled community changing their ways.

    Damn those settled people objecting to being robbed and brutalized by gangs of travellers roaming the country side with impunity conscious or consequence.

    how fcuking dare those law abiding tax paying citizens make a noise the bastards

    BTW your coming across as some one who claims to have lots of contact with travelers but really doesnt .


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    #7198
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Jimmy. wrote: »
    Are any of the seven children gluten intolerant?

    I bet they are now.


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    #7199
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Heads up boys and girls, the pox Connors on the LLS tonight talking social housing.

    I'm sure Tubs will give him a rough go over the glorifying theft and vandalism at Lidl this year.

    I also believe in fairies.


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    #7200
    Wheeliebin30
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Heads up boys and girls, the pox Connors on the LLS tonight talking social housing.

    I'm sure Tubs will give him a rough go over the glorifying theft and vandalism at Lidl this year.

    I also believe in fairies.

    Ahhhhhh no.

    That’s an early night for me so.


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    #7201
    Autecher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    Jimmy. wrote: »
    Are any of the seven children gluten intolerant?
    If the government announced a Gluten Free Food Scheme for "Low Income Families" then I'm sure they soon would be....


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