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Dairy chit chat II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,840 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    That sounds about right for that number of cows.
    This shyte is fairly real

    The lads on Midwest radio were on about him yesterday morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    That sounds about right for that number of cows.
    This shyte is fairly real

    It's not that unusual. Giving an extra 4kg of meal and maybe 40% more silage than this day last year per head. Cow numbers up 10% deliveries per day up by 20%. I thought this time last year that I should have been feeding stronger certainly on meal this year seems to be proving me right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,519 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    That sounds about right for that number of cows.
    This shyte is fairly real

    If I was his partner I'd kick his butt, It doesn't need to be broadcast....it's really not helping our image.
    he could be selling €5000 +/day worth of milk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Every time I tell myself "this is the worst farming year of my life" , I'm reminded of the Simpsons episode where Bart says this is the worse day of his life, and Homer just goes, no, worst day of your life...so far :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,748 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Every time I tell myself "this is the worst farming year of my life" , I'm reminded of the Simpsons episode where Bart says this is the worse day of his life, and Homer just goes, no, worst day of your life so far :p

    Profit monitor figures for 2018 will be interesting


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭stretch film


    Lads keep your own ears to the ground (pun intended) on availability of certain straights .along the lines of injuryprones post a while ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    This year isn't a patch on 1984 no rain from April to September and there wasn't half the crying about it even though there were plenty farmers stocked at a cow to the acre and over. I know a man that grew peas for Eirn foods in 1984 and the peas got no rain from the day they were planted to the day they were harvested. The following year was very wet for the whole summer and plenty trouble making fodder until the Indian summer cane in September and October.

    Yes ‘84 was a drought year Dan,but both winter and spring cereals were a bumper crop. I remember getting IR£1 for small square bales of straw...must’ve been something wrong with the baler because there were thousands of bales that ‘disappeared’...:)

    ‘76 was catastrophic for everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    wrangler wrote: »
    If I was his partner I'd kick his butt, It doesn't need to be broadcast....it's really not helping our image.
    he could be selling €5000 +/day worth of milk

    Just starting to polish the begging bowl is all...
    Must get the situation out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    He has his land rented to the lads. But they call him a partner just to make him feel important. Id say he only be in the way if you were busy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭mf240


    Just starting to polish the begging bowl is all...
    Must get the situation out there.

    I sold the violin for two small square bales and a bag of pke


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    Just got 3-4mm with thunder and lightning. Everyone off to watch the soccer now for the w-end.

    My second job beckons for the next couple of days...bloodstock transport, groom, sponsor, patron and general dogsbody.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    mf240 wrote: »
    I sold the violin for two small square bales and a bag of pke

    Obviously a Stradivarius...seeing you got two small squares thrown in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Alfalfa (lucerne) hay isn’t much good for milking cows. Excellent for young stock.

    In the form of hay it retails at about €90/t...~€45/big square.

    Alfalfa in wraps is a brilliant feed for dairy cows. Retails at about €140/ton. At around 30%dm, 4kg is equal to a kg of soya, but feeds out better iykwim.

    * Extrême caution when buying...
    If baled (wrapped) before any flowers appear it should be 23-24% protein. Quality plummets rapidly when flowers appear...

    Likewise with alfalfa hay. Good hay would come in at about 18% protein, but as the flowers appear it plummets rapidly.

    The dregs of alfalfa is when the seed has been harvested...that means that it was way past flowering and resulting hay (straw!) would be only gutfill.

    I’d buy hay or straw over the phone, but I’d go see alfalfa before buying.
    Careful now.

    I had a look at that alfalfa hay today. Very dusty to my mind, looked to be an awful lot of stem. I couldn't see anything that looked like flowers but I couldn't see much leaf either. Maybe a function of the big square balers but it seemed to be chopped? I wouldn't be rushing to buy atm. Any thoughts dawg?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,123 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Alfalfa (lucerne) hay isn’t much good for milking cows. Excellent for young stock.

    In the form of hay it retails at about €90/t...~€45/big square.

    Alfalfa in wraps is a brilliant feed for dairy cows. Retails at about €140/ton. At around 30%dm, 4kg is equal to a kg of soya, but feeds out better iykwim.

    * Extrême caution when buying...
    If baled (wrapped) before any flowers appear it should be 23-24% protein. Quality plummets rapidly when flowers appear...

    Likewise with alfalfa hay. Good hay would come in at about 18% protein, but as the flowers appear it plummets rapidly.

    The dregs of alfalfa is when the seed has been harvested...that means that it was way past flowering and resulting hay (straw!) would be only gutfill.

    I’d buy hay or straw over the phone, but I’d go see alfalfa before buying.
    Careful now.

    I had a look at that alfalfa hay today. Very dusty to my mind, looked to be an awful lot of stem. I couldn't see anything that looked like flowers but I couldn't see much leaf either. Maybe a function of the big square balers but it seemed to be chopped? I wouldn't be rushing to buy atm. Any thoughts dawg?

    Sounds like glorified straw, good quality stuff should be dark green, with little our no dust


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Cows going into 1st cut after grass now, 36days after it was cut. Best covers have about 1100 on them, worst, 500, which is a gr of 13/day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,067 ✭✭✭stretch film


    I had a look at that alfalfa hay today. Very dusty to my mind, looked to be an awful lot of stem. I couldn't see anything that looked like flowers but I couldn't see much leaf either. Maybe a function of the big square balers but it seemed to be chopped? I wouldn't be rushing to buy atm. Any thoughts dawg?

    Out of interest how much could you have taken . Any nutritional analysis on it.
    What price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭straight


    I see murphy water troughs come with their own stop valve now. Do any of you have any experience of them. They don't look very frost proof.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,447 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    straight wrote: »
    I see murphy water troughs come with their own stop valve now. Do any of you have any experience of them. They don't look very frost proof.

    Have 6 of them. I've no issue with them although some do. We have stop valves on outside of every trough and turn them off when cows leave the paddock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Out of interest how much could you have taken . Any nutritional analysis on it.
    What price.

    180 I think. Very pricy on any basis. I won't be a customer for them in the short term but never say never.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    straight wrote: »
    I see murphy water troughs come with their own stop valve now. Do any of you have any experience of them. They don't look very frost proof.

    I saw one with a 3 or 4inches of solid ice in the Friday morning of the big snow here, and not a bother on it since.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    wrangler wrote:
    If I was his partner I'd kick his butt, It doesn't need to be broadcast....it's really not helping our image. he could be selling €5000 +/day worth of milk

    In fairness wrangler dairy farmers are great violin players..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    I had a look at that alfalfa hay today. Very dusty to my mind, looked to be an awful lot of stem. I couldn't see anything that looked like flowers but I couldn't see much leaf either. Maybe a function of the big square balers but it seemed to be chopped? I wouldn't be rushing to buy atm. Any thoughts dawg?


    Where is this available kilmeaden ?
    Have they much of it
    Tks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    mf240 wrote: »
    He has his land rented to the lads. But they call him a partner just to make him feel important. Id say he only be in the way if you were busy.

    He wasn't very impressive drying off one of the cows a few years Avon on ettg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,748 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Cows had no water last night. Disaster. Luckily there's 4 big drinkers in the collecting yard. Ball valve was blocked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    ellewood wrote: »
    Where is this available kilmeaden ?
    Have they much of it
    Tks

    It looked like they had taken in an artic load. Kilmeaden. Plenty bales there yesterday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,827 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Is molasses any use feeding on straw or hay? For milkers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Not too sure, have you a diet feeder? We fed straw with one of those liquid feed products back in 2013. Not sure what was in it. Are you trying to conserve silage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭ellewood


    It looked like they had taken in an artic load. Kilmeaden. Plenty bales there yesterday.


    Sound thanks
    Got sorted with a few from them this morning
    It will stretch what I have for another bit because there feck all else around here at the moment


    Won't be feeding ad lib with price of them
    But would incalf heifers be ok with
    3kg alfafa 3 kg meal and 3 kg grass

    If grass goes completely how much alfafa and meal together can u feed ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,827 ✭✭✭visatorro


    Just trying to feed cows, willing to try anything. I know you'd put molasses on poor silage to make them eat it, does it reduce demand I suppose is what I want to know

    Yeah have diet feeder


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,748 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Interesting views on the last few pages of this thread https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057883435


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