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Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

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  • #3392
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »
    If you have something to add to the thread do so but this is nothing but sh1te!

    That question was about Christians. How can those who aren't know what Christians think.
    They did make a valiant effort at telling us what they thought we should think.
    There's a huge difference in the two
    How can you know what a woman you don't know thinks? But you seem to be happy that you know what's best for her.


  • #3393
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    It'd have to be 65 :)

    Ha ha, very true.


  • #3394
    Trasna1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Trasna1


    Water John wrote: »
    We'll raise the voting age to 35 or even 40. Those young people are too easily swayed and not to be trusted.

    I wouldn't be in favour of reducing the age any further


  • #3395
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »
    If you have something to add to the thread do so but this is nothing but sh1te!

    That question was about Christians. How can those who aren't know what Christians think.
    They did make a valiant effort at telling us what they thought we should think.
    There's a huge difference in the two

    I think you should be looking to your own posts first.


  • #3396
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    How can you know what a woman you don't know thinks? But you seem to be happy that you know what's best for her.

    As I said, let's just wait and see the effects on society. We may not see that for 20 years.
    We've devalued human life with the sweep of a pen. I don't see that as being a good thing.
    We cry out about injuring a pregnant woman and it's a criminal offence to injure the child she's carrying. Yet it's now ok to kill the child she's carrying.


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  • #3397
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Hopefully by ferry or Ryanair ;)

    He might decide to go to the Philippines.

    As long as the door hits him in the arse as he goes.

    I’d happily strap him onto a rocket and blast him into space.


  • #3398
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • #3399
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »
    We've devalued human life with the sweep of a pen. I don't see that as being a good thing.

    We raised the value of women. Women are human life. That is a great thing.

    Would you honestly be happy that your partner die like Savita due to doctors unable to operate to save her life because they couldn't due to the 8th?


  • #3400
    pitifulgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭pitifulgod


    Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »
    As I said, let's just wait and see the effects on society. We may not see that for 20 years.
    We've devalued human life with the sweep of a pen. I don't see that as being a good thing.
    We cry out about injuring a pregnant woman and it's a criminal offence to injure the child she's carrying. Yet it's now ok to kill the child she's carrying.

    Your attitude towards the woman is pretty concerning. You'll also find that plenty of Catholics voted for repeal yesterday. This goes back to far reaching effects of the marriage referendum or divorce, it's scare mongering.


  • #3401
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Cody montana wrote: »
    I’d happily strap him onto a rocket and blast him into space.

    You wouldn't be the only one, but can't see any of them following up on their statements/promises.

    Anyway its a nice day, time to get off this and enjoy some work outside.


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  • #3402
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,244 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »
    As I said, let's just wait and see the effects on society. We may not see that for 20 years.
    We've devalued human life with the sweep of a pen. I don't see that as being a good thing.
    We cry out about injuring a pregnant woman and it's a criminal offence to injure the child she's carrying. Yet it's now ok to kill the child she's carrying.

    So if I come up with some opinions on why Christianity is bad, I'm now qualified to discuss Christianity in your thread?


  • #3403
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »
    As I said, let's just wait and see the effects on society. We may not see that for 20 years.
    We've devalued human life with the sweep of a pen. I don't see that as being a good thing.
    We cry out about injuring a pregnant woman and it's a criminal offence to injure the child she's carrying. Yet it's now ok to kill the child she's carrying.

    If you assault and injury a pregnant woman, that's still a crime. If you assault and injury a pregnant woman and cause injury to the child, it's still a crime.


  • #3404
    PurvesGrundy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭PurvesGrundy


    Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    How can you know what a woman you don't know thinks? But you seem to be happy that you know what's best for her.

    As I said, let's just wait and see the effects on society. We may not see that for 20 years.
    We've devalued human life with the sweep of a pen. I don't see that as being a good thing.
    We cry out about injuring a pregnant woman and it's a criminal offence to injure the child she's carrying. Yet it's now ok to kill the child she's carrying.

    What will happen now if a pregnant woman is murdered. Will it be counted as a double murder?


  • #3405
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »
    We cry out about injuring a pregnant woman and it's a criminal offence to injure the child she's carrying. Yet it's now ok to kill the child she's carrying.

    Hopefully Savita recovers from those injuries soon.


  • #3406
    _Dara_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    Shouldn’t be giving that site clicks but LOL.

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  • #3407
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    PurvesGrundy wrote: »
    What will happen now if a pregnant woman is murdered. Will it be counted as a double murder?

    Nope. Was never counted as 2 counts of murder either.


  • #3408
    Conservative
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Conservative


    Poor_old_gill wrote: »
    Thank f*ck this is over.
    I voted yes because I believe in the concept of choice but this was the most toxic referendum this country has ever had.

    I have equal disdain for the patronising, attention seeking, childish, ironically illiberal Yes side and the strange, permanently angry, controlling No side.


    Best comment on here. This referendum exposed me to a side of Ireland that I was completely unaware of and absolutely detest.

    I voted Yes also but I think I dislike the ungracious Yes side more. There is abaolutely nothing here to "celebrate".


  • #3409
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Haylee Purple Showboat wrote: »
    As I said, let's just wait and see the effects on society. We may not see that for 20 years.
    We've devalued human life with the sweep of a pen. I don't see that as being a good thing.
    We cry out about injuring a pregnant woman and it's a criminal offence to injure the child she's carrying. Yet it's now ok to kill the child she's carrying.

    What affects did we see when we voted for women to get their abortions in other countries?


  • #3410
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Conservative wrote: »
    There is abaolutely nothing here to "celebrate".

    I didn't celebrate or even feel like celebrating. I am a man and I can't even begin to comprehend the oppression that was forced upon women and how they have been treated over pregnancy for decades and possibly centuries in Ireland.

    I can't imagine what it must feel to have been one of those women that had to make the difficult journey when they forced to take the boat/plane without support from her country.

    I can't imagine the fear of giving birth and knowing that if something goes wrong that death is a perfectly valid outcome due to the equal status that is actually an inequality.

    I can't imagine how heartbreaking it is to be told you must give birth and the baby may not be able to take their first breath or only survive a short time.

    Women have a right to celebrate if they wish. They are celebrating that they will not have to to suffer oppression again, and that they need not have so much fear during their pregnancies.


  • #3411
    Conservative
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭Conservative


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    Conservative wrote: »
    There is abaolutely nothing here to "celebrate".

    I didn't celebrate or even feel like celebrating. I am a man and I can't even begin to comprehend the oppression that was forced upon women and how they have been treated over pregnancy for decades and possibly centuries in Ireland.

    I can't imagine what it must feel to have been one of those women that had to make the difficult journey when they forced to take the boat/plane without support from her country.

    I can't imagine the fear of giving birth and knowing that if something goes wrong that death is a perfectly valid outcome due to the equal status that is actually an inequality.

    I can't imagine how heartbreaking it is to be told you must give birth and the baby may not be able to take their first breath or only survive a short time.

    Women have a right to celebrate if they wish. They are celebrating that they will not have to to suffer oppression again, and that they need not have so much fear during their pregnancies.

    So compassionate xx


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  • #3412
    pitifulgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,282 ✭✭✭pitifulgod


    Conservative wrote: »
    Best comment on here. This referendum exposed me to a side of Ireland that I was completely unaware of and absolutely detest.

    I voted Yes also but I think I dislike the ungracious Yes side more. There is abaolutely nothing here to "celebrate".

    I've been at the celebrations. For the most part it was a celebration of the fact that women are now more protected than they were 35 years ago. That they won't have to travel as they have to before. That we won't have scenarios like Savita any more.


  • #3413
    Calina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    PurvesGrundy wrote: »
    Doctors did not perform the correct responses in time to save her life. That was the main cause of the woman's death.

    Doctors could not give her an abortion ehen she started miscarrying because of the 8th amendment. She did not have sepsis then. Sure you and yours can argue the sepsis wasnt responded to adequately if you want. But honest people would accept that giving her the termination when she started miscarrying would have prevented the sepsis and she would still be alive.

    It is wrong to say the eighth did not contribute. The 8th is why she got sepsis.


  • #3414
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    The Golden Miller wrote: »
    this movement concerned about how the next guy perceived them, all trying to out do each other to seem the most liberal.

    This has been pointed out time and time again but I’ll repeat it. People vote anonymously. You could appear to be as liberal as you want and as right on as you want but when it gets to it, you’re in that booth alone. Nobody there to “show off” to. Hell, you could actually vote the opposite way and still just say you went the liberal route for the kudos.

    Time to accept that a vast vast majority simply disagreed with the legislation that was in place and democratically moved to do something about it.


  • #3415
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Conservative wrote: »
    So compassionate xx

    It good to feel for and understand those who are affected by the 8th, and who are treated like second rate citizens.


  • #3416
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    pitifulgod wrote: »
    Your attitude towards the woman is pretty concerning. You'll also find that plenty of Catholics voted for repeal yesterday. This goes back to far reaching effects of the marriage referendum or divorce, it's scare mongering.

    Lots of atheists voted against it too.
    Have you a point to make or is it just a opportunity for more Catholic bashing (btw..I'm not RC)


  • #3417
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Sofiztikated wrote: »
    If you assault and injury a pregnant woman, that's still a crime. If you assault and injury a pregnant woman and cause injury to the child, it's still a crime.

    And if you kill the unborn child for no reason other than its convenient it won't be a crime up to 12 weeks.


  • #3418
    pooch90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,421 ✭✭✭pooch90


    I campaigned for Yes in Tipp, strong Mattie McGrath country. I can tell you, it was a sigh of relief and restoration of my faith in the people of my county.
    I'm celebrating the fact that leaving my kids every evening for the past month has achieved something monumental in this country. I'm celebrating that being called nasty names by complete strangers was worth it. I'm celebrating that on the nights where we had 3 volunteers compared to Mattie's huge gaggle we didn't give up. I'm celebrating that our country gives a **** about women in crisis!


  • #3419
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    PurvesGrundy wrote: »
    What will happen now if a pregnant woman is murdered. Will it be counted as a double murder?
    It's never been a double murder before. Why would it be one now?


  • #3420
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Hopefully Savita recovers from those injuries soon.

    She died from sepsis poisoning and the inability of the medical to recognise the signs.
    Medics on one side will say the 8th killed her. Medics on the other side will say it didn't.


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  • #3421
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I voted Yes myself and am glad to have done so but some of the sh*te ya see is unbearable. This one on my friends list was watching the Champions League final last night in her local and said she was full sure the chorus of “You’ll Never Walk Alone” sang by the drunken Liverpool fans there was directed towards the women of Ireland and the 8th amendment.


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