Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

27-05-2018 10:21AM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Hmm...I’d love someone to do the research on te lies told but I’m sure the disgruntled No side wouldn’t accept research that was real as it would conflict with their agenda.

What we’re the lies from the Yes side?

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

They absolutely did. I saw elderly people badgered by women with pink hair and nose rings on streets and in cafe's to vote for something they did not feel comfortable with. Nobody was allowed have any adverse opinion to a Yes vote in public conversation.

The only women I've ever seen with pink hair (apart from fashion) are women out collecting for cancer research

Plenty of no canvassers around Meath according to my wife and friends. There were plenty of people arguing that they were telling lies. No one stopping them from canvassing except when they were on private property and refused to leave and refused to allow women pass without taking a leaflet, you can ring Supervalu in Kells to confirm that.

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lawred2 · 27-05-2018 10:23AM

tigger123 wrote: »

It's hilarious how the No side are heaping so much hate on millenials when almost every demographic voted in favour of Repeal.

This wasn't millenials, it was a landslide vote by all sections of society.

Except the over 65 FF demographic

tigger123 · 27-05-2018 10:23AM

Between the SSM referendum and yesterday's the result the last few years have been incredibly important for Ireland.

Delighted to see young people so engaged in the political system and making their own decisions about their own futures.

tigger123 · 27-05-2018 10:24AM

lawred2 wrote: »

Except the over 65 FF demographic

Yep, FF are now the most socially conservative party in the State. While FG are spearheading progress (...tounge firmly in cheek there!)

PurvesGrundy · 27-05-2018 10:25AM

Flying Fox wrote: »

If anything, yesterday's vote proves that young people are questioning the status quo. They're not happy to be shackled by Rome any longer, not in a modern civilised society.

It was narcissistic liberalism because abortion is cool.

tigger123 · 27-05-2018 10:26AM

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

It was narcissistic liberalism because abortion is cool.

Bodily autonomy is cool.

27-05-2018 10:26AM

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

Doctors did not perform the correct responses in time to save her life. That was the main cause of the woman's death.

You actually sound like Ronan Mullen right now. It's been proven the 8th caused her death, learn some actual facts.

27-05-2018 10:28AM

lawred2 wrote: »

They'd be right on that one

True

vicwatson · 27-05-2018 10:30AM

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

Doctors did not perform the correct responses in time to save her life. That was the main cause of the woman's death.

This is a lie

Sofiztikated · 27-05-2018 10:31AM

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

It was narcissistic liberalism because abortion is cool.

Look, it's a nice day, go outside, eat an ice cream, feed the birds, or go for a walk.

All that hate and conspiracy will give you a stroke.

27-05-2018 10:31AM

Your Face wrote: »

Like someone who voted 'No' is going to risk saying so here.

I voted no.

Not because I don't care about women - but because the proposed legislation is too extreme.

I spent yesterday comforting my daughter and her partner because she had a miscarriage. It was an unplanned pregnancy - and they are both devastated.

Many "Yes" voters regard embryos as a "clump of cells".
I challenge you to say that to my daughters face. She is grieving for a baby. The gestational age was 5 weeks.

There was no reason another referendum couldn't have been held to cater for the hard cases.

There is no legislation being proposed to protect women against forced abortion.
There are no plans to increase support for women in crises pregnancies who do not want an abortion.

The proposed legislation will not effectively help the majority of women. It will merely present abortion as a solution for all the problems - which it is not, and never can be.

I voted no. Not because I don't care about women, but because I care enough to want better for them and their unborn babies. There is nothing shameful about that, and it speaks volumes that you would make such a triumphalist statement, TBH.

Fighting Tao · 27-05-2018 10:31AM

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

It was narcissistic liberalism because abortion is cool.

Your belief system is dated. You'll have to get over that at some stage or else you'll have a miserable life. Be more accepting of people. The world is not out to get you. The people of the world want it to be a better place for them and their future generations. Your thoughts are part of a group that is dying off. It will never die off completely as there will always be a few younger people raised with the same albeit out of touch values such as that 28 year old. Live your life for yourself so that you enjoy it, and stop worrying about the rest of us that want to move on. Having a chip on the shoulder is bad for a persons health.

27-05-2018 10:31AM

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

It was narcissistic liberalism because abortion is cool.

A prime example of why people couldn't relate to the No side here. Sweeping generalisations and hysterical nonsense doesn't do you any favours.

Give them enough rope...

Dyr · 27-05-2018 10:38AM

Annabella1 wrote: »

Can’t wait to see Arlene’s face

There's a sentence you don't hear very often.

Billy86 · 27-05-2018 10:39AM

tigger123 wrote: »

It's hilarious how the No side are heaping so much hate on millenials when almost every demographic voted in favour of Repeal.

This wasn't millenials, it was a landslide vote by all sections of society.

Having a rant about 'milennials' at this stage is usually just a way for someone to signpost to all within earshot that they're an idiot.

27-05-2018 10:39AM

vicwatson wrote: »

This is a lie

Oh they know it's a lie, but it's the one thing that they try hold onto, as her death was a catalyst for us actually getting to have the referendum in the first place, and the hate the fact that this caused it, despite the disquiet the Miss P case caused.

The fact they had posters with her image stating she didn't die because of the 8th was one of their lowest points for a lot of people I'd say and just showed up the level of lies they had been spouting. Another was the statement that rape victims should be forced to carry to term.

Fighting Tao · 27-05-2018 10:40AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I voted no.

Not because I don't care about women - but because the proposed legislation is too extreme.

How would voting no have permitted legalisation that would suit your wishes?

Deleted User wrote: »

I spent yesterday comforting my daughter and her partner because she had a miscarriage. It was an unplanned pregnancy - and they are both devastated.

How does other people having abortions affected them? Why does it affect them? At the moment there are already abortions for Irish women but they are carried out in another state.

Deleted User wrote: »

Many "Yes" voters regard embryos as a "clump of cells".
I challenge you to say that to my daughters face. She is grieving for a baby. The gestational age was 5 weeks.

Sorry to highlight it, but the Yes voters were dealing in facts. It is not a baby. I say that as a new father myself.

Deleted User wrote: »

There was no reason another referendum couldn't have been held to cater for the hard cases.

In 35 years, not one person has been able to word that for the constitution. So there is a reason. It can not be done.

Deleted User wrote: »

There is no legislation being proposed to protect women against forced abortion.
There are no plans to increase support for women in crises pregnancies who do not want an abortion.

Who is forcing anyone to have an abortion?

If by crisis you mean unplanned, there is huge support in Ireland already for crisis pregnancies.

Deleted User wrote: »

The proposed legislation will not effectively help the majority of women. It will merely present abortion as a solution for all the problems - which it is not, and never can be.

It does help them. I know that if my wife gets pregnant again and something goes wrong, then her life will be put before a potential life. That goes for every woman including your daughter. Would you rather your daughter die in the chance that a baby is born?

Deleted User wrote: »

I voted no. Not because I don't care about women, but because I care enough to want better for them and their unborn babies. There is nothing shameful about that, and it speaks volumes that you would make such a triumphalist statement, TBH.

You don't care for the women. However, it appears that you have convinced yourself that you do care. The status quo kills women. If you did care for them then you'd have voted Yes and lobbied for effective legislation.

CruelCoin · 27-05-2018 10:40AM

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

They absolutely did. I saw elderly people badgered by women with pink hair and nose rings on streets and in cafe's to vote for something they did not feel comfortable with. Nobody was allowed have any adverse opinion to a Yes vote in public conversation.

That crap went on everywhere.
The last few days before the referendum, all the yes posers dissapeared from my town, to be replaced with no posters every 2 metres.
A last ditch attempt to spend the yanky doodle baptist money.

Doesn't matter an iota though. Nobody stands in the polling booth with you and forces you to do anything.

27-05-2018 10:42AM

CruelCoin wrote: »

That crap went on everywhere.
The last few days before the referendum, all the yes posers dissapeared from my town, to be replaced with no posters every 2 metres.
A last ditch attempt to spend the yanky doodle baptist money.

Doesn't matter an iota though. Nobody stands in the polling booth with you and forces you to do anything.

Their time is gone on this issue.

CruelCoin · 27-05-2018 10:43AM

Deleted User wrote: »

There is no legislation being proposed to protect women against forced abortion.

Ah **** lads, they're on to us!

Round them up before they run!

CruelCoin · 27-05-2018 10:48AM

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

Doctors did not perform the correct responses in time to save her life. That was the main cause of the woman's death.

Maybe they didn't.

But AFTER that point, when she had gone septic, the choice was simple. Abort the baby or the mother dies from septicemia.

What happened beforehand is irrelevant. When push came to shove, the 8th killed her because the doctors had to prioritise the baby's life over hers.

Thankfully, doctors can now be doctors, and save the patient.

railer201 · 27-05-2018 10:50AM

PurvesGrundy wrote: »

Doctors did not perform the correct responses in time to save her life. That was the main cause of the woman's death.

This is the sort of delusional stubbornness that I for one just can't handle, so there was little point in entering into debating the issues with the NO side on the run up to the referendum. It's been like this for decades with the pro-lifers - they transmit then stick their fingers in their ears and deny everything.

Best answer was to vote YES and win - which we achieved in spades.

Pugzilla · 27-05-2018 10:52AM

Glad this is over. Was getting sick of SJW on social media.

Guy:Incognito · 27-05-2018 10:57AM

Anyone got any of the together for yes posters in their area (in South Dublin preferrably) they are taking down? The ones like the window stickers, in the shape of the speech bubbles? I want to fight one of those but can't find any accessible ones. Saw a couple near Tallaght stadium but hadn't anything to cut them down with.

Fighting Tao · 27-05-2018 11:00AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Anyone got any of the together for yes posters in their area (in South Dublin preferrably) they are taking down? The ones like the window stickers, in the shape of the speech bubbles? I want to fight one of those but can't find any accessible ones. Saw a couple near Tallaght stadium but hadn't anything to cut them down with.

No idea what poster you are on about. Although I am curious....you want to fight one? Is that a typo?

Guy:Incognito · 27-05-2018 11:04AM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

No idea what poster you are on about. Although I am curious....you want to fight one? Is that a typo?

Was keep. Don't know how it ended up as fight. Maybe I was thinking keep and mistyped find.

Pretty much this, but in poster form. https://www.togetherforyes.ie/product/window-sticker/

Muzzymor · 27-05-2018 11:07AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Anyone got any of the together for yes posters in their area (in South Dublin preferrably) they are taking down? The ones like the window stickers, in the shape of the speech bubbles? I want to fight one of those but can't find any accessible ones. Saw a couple near Tallaght stadium but hadn't anything to cut them down with.

Might be able to help but first I have a question.
Do you want one for virtue signalling purposes?

CruelCoin · 27-05-2018 11:07AM

Fighting Tao wrote: »

No idea what poster you are on about. Although I am curious....you want to fight one? Is that a typo?

He means find.
Think he's looking for a souvenir

Guy:Incognito · 27-05-2018 11:10AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

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I voted no. Not because I don't care about women, but because I care enough to want better for them and their unborn babies. There is nothing shameful about that, and it speaks volumes that you would make such a triumphalist statement, TBH.

What makes you a better judge of what's better for a woman you don't know(or one you do) than the woman herself?

AtomicHorror · 27-05-2018 11:12AM

tigger123 wrote: »

It's hilarious how the No side are heaping so much hate on millenials when almost every demographic voted in favour of Repeal.

This wasn't millenials, it was a landslide vote by all sections of society.

Ah but the millennials lead the way, with hard work. That does not compute.

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