Exit poll: The post referendum thread. No electioneering.

The Golden Miller wrote: »

I'm not talking about the real people affected. I'm talking about the one's who pretend to care, if it suits their posturing

Every one of us has that friend- the only difference is whether we knew about them. It was not posturing. They were doing it for the ones who confided in them, who couldn't bring themselves to stand up.

The Golden Miller wrote: »

And did they consider the 6 month aborted unborn who couldn't tell us about it's hard case, getting ripped apart limb by limb? I'm not doubting the real people effected, but I am doubting the young who preached the loudest. They stand for fcuk all, I had to go back to college as a mature student and spent 3 years listening to it, who could out do who to appear the most progressive

This referendum had nothing to do with that case.

The Golden Miller wrote: »

And did they consider the 6 month aborted unborn who couldn't tell us about it's hard case, getting ripped apart limb by limb? I'm not doubting the real people effected, but I am doubting the young who preached the loudest. They stand for fcuk all, I had to go back to college as a mature student and spent 3 years listening to it, who could out do who to appear the most progressive

Foetuses can't speak !!!
I went back as a mature student aswell and for the most part students are as clued in as everyone else.
But hey keep dismissing the choices of others just because they didn't agree with you

Just her wrote: »

There'll be thousands more now

Not really ,the church can't get away with stuff like that anymore thankfully

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Doesn't happen. Keep looking away, nothing to see here!

Good lad. Jog on.

The Golden Miller wrote: »

Are you under the impression that I said it could?

How else can they tell us something? Your words not mine?

The Golden Miller wrote: »

I've asked many, the reply is soundbites. Foreign culture? I'm 28, it's narcissism

What's more likely, an entire generation of varied and unrelated people are narcissists, or one person is incapable of parsing how they communicate?

Honestly, I assumed you were older from the sense of cultural displacement in your writing. I guess it's something else.

The Golden Miller wrote: »

It's a broad spectrum of people, all consigning to the bandwagon of "progress". What you believed to be a sense of cultural detachment, is simply one's disbelief at how so many of the supposedly young and educated can no longer think for themselves. There's a fear there

And you never considered you might be on the bandwagon against youths and progressive culture? It's after all quite the rage to call people snowflakes and non-thinking zombies, while forgetting this is also the generation where people are more free to express their own opinions than ever and are quite evidently more and more comfortable with concepts like discovering their own sexuality, just for example. So, I don't see how we're slipping into some dystopian nightmare devoid of free thought. If you'd like to complain that universities are brainwashing outlets though, which is what I'm smelling here, you can join me in the Conspiracy Theories forum.

It's like discovering it's not a tall guy, just three kids in a long coat. I'm going to bed.

The Golden Miller wrote: »

At least people back then were real and stood for something, generally hard working people in a hard time who did the best by their families, which instills modesty in itself. Some bad people and institutions, but as a whole there was a real community spirit amongst a genuine and well meaning people, who carried alot of self-responsibility to provide with no fallbacks .

Now we are a product of the Celtic Tiger, a society of hollow molly-coddled superficial narcissists trying to add substance to our being, pretending to care about moral issue's, others, and over-compensating in a self-congratulatory fashion to appear progressive and matured to the outside world.

There was alot wrong in the Ireland of back then, but at least it was real

Sorry but I won’t entertain any notion that the Ireland that criminalized gay people, allowed marital rape, and was still sending women to mother & baby homes is a better Ireland than today.
There is absolutely nothing nostalgic or to feel pride in how we once treated some of our citizens.
We are of similar age but it sounds like you grew up in a completely different country to me.

You can speak for yourself when you say you don’t care about moral issues and other people but you certainly don’t speak for me.

Your earnest disdain at pretty much the whole of our culture and society is bizarre - what are you personally doing to change it, and make it a ‘better’, more acceptable Ireland?

Sheepdish1 wrote: »

I am shocked that people feel so proud of Simon Harris. Look at the state of our health care service and the lack of accountability in recent scandals.

People who shared extremely personal stories and their supporters fought for repeal imo

Way to go and spectacularly miss the point.
I was speaking in the context of the PrimeTime debate.
He did a wonderful job of it and was an excellent representative of the Repeal side.

For what it’s worth, I think the ‘In Her Shoes’ Facebook page was the most valuable tool the Yes side had.