AtomicHorror wrote: » You've had your fill. You're drunk on it. Empathy for the unborn? A dear friend of mine travelled to end the life of her wanted unborn child. Ask her about empathy, about what she had to weigh up. Ask her about personal responsibility. You are without heart. You dismiss a generation on the basis of nothing more than some half-sketched cliches about the yoof. You should be ashamed.
The Golden Miller wrote: » I'm not talking about the real people affected. I'm talking about the one's who pretend to care, if it suits their posturing
AtomicHorror wrote: » Every one of us has that friend- the only difference is whether we knew about them. It was not posturing. They were doing it for the ones who confided in them, who couldn't bring themselves to stand up.
The Golden Miller wrote: » And did they consider the 6 month aborted unborn who couldn't tell us about it's hard case, getting ripped apart limb by limb? I'm not doubting the real people effected, but I am doubting the young who preached the loudest. They stand for fcuk all, I had to go back to college as a mature student and spent 3 years listening to it, who could out do who to appear the most progressive
bodice ripper wrote: » Real as hundreds of babies in a septic tank.
Overheal wrote: » This referendum had nothing to do with that case.
Just her wrote: » There'll be thousands more now
The Golden Miller wrote: » Never want to discuss the 5 and 6 month abortions. Always a red herring thrown in, soon to be a county who will collectively bury our head in the sand
Overheal wrote: » Put the piss and vinegar away and quit moaning just because you can't use your irrelevant whataboutism.
uptherebels wrote: » Foetuses can't speak !!!
The Golden Miller wrote: » And did they consider the 6 month aborted unborn who couldn't tell us about it's hard case, getting ripped apart limb by limb?
The Golden Miller wrote: » I'm not doubting the real people effected, but I am doubting the young who preached the loudest. They stand for fcuk all, I had to go back to college as a mature student and spent 3 years listening to it, who could out do who to appear the most progressive
The Golden Miller wrote: » Doesn't happen. Keep looking away, nothing to see here!
AtomicHorror wrote: » Yes, of course they considered that. Who could ignore the imagery, the stories? They weighed that against the risks to life and health, against the potential lives and futures. They talk about this stuff far more than previous generations did, my own included. You are unhappy with how they saw the balance, the conclusions they came to. That doesn't mean they didn't weigh all of it. No, what you saw was a foreign culture you did not understand and did not care to. It's not their job to integrate you.
The Golden Miller wrote: » Are you under the impression that I said it could?
Overheal wrote: » More dead infants in septic tanks? Really?
The Golden Miller wrote: » I've asked many, the reply is soundbites. Foreign culture? I'm 28, it's narcissism
uptherebels wrote: » How else can they tell us something? Your words not mine?
AtomicHorror wrote: » What's more likely, an entire generation of varied and unrelated people are narcissists, or one person is incapable of parsing how they communicate? Honestly, I assumed you were older from the sense of cultural displacement in your writing. I guess it's something else.
The Golden Miller wrote: » It's a broad spectrum of people, all consigning to the bandwagon of "progress". What you believed to be a sense of cultural detachment, is simply one's disbelief at how so many of the supposedly young and educated can no longer think for themselves. There's a fear there
AtomicHorror wrote: » I'm sorry but, this is just nonsense. Golden Miller, when you talked about the "real" Ireland of the days before Celtic Tiger and the '93 decriminalisation... as a 28 year old just what in the **** are you talking about? You were 3 years old when homosexuality was legalised. 5 years old for divorce. The Celtic Tiger is about all you can remember- that was from age 5 to 17 for you. The golden age you're harkening back to is just a story someone else told you. You were no more there for that time than the young people who just won repeal.
The Golden Miller wrote: » At least people back then were real and stood for something, generally hard working people in a hard time who did the best by their families, which instills modesty in itself. Some bad people and institutions, but as a whole there was a real community spirit amongst a genuine and well meaning people, who carried alot of self-responsibility to provide with no fallbacks . Now we are a product of the Celtic Tiger, a society of hollow molly-coddled superficial narcissists trying to add substance to our being, pretending to care about moral issue's, others, and over-compensating in a self-congratulatory fashion to appear progressive and matured to the outside world. There was alot wrong in the Ireland of back then, but at least it was real
Overheal wrote: » And you never considered you might be on the bandwagon against youths and progressive culture? It's after all quite the rage to call people snowflakes and non-thinking zombies, while forgetting this is also the generation where people are more free to express their own opinions than ever and are quite evidently more and more comfortable with concepts like discovering their own sexuality, just for example. So, I don't see how we're slipping into some dystopian nightmare devoid of free thought. If you'd like to complain that universities are brainwashing outlets though, which is what I'm smelling here, you can join me in the Conspiracy Theories forum.
Sheepdish1 wrote: » I am shocked that people feel so proud of Simon Harris. Look at the state of our health care service and the lack of accountability in recent scandals. People who shared extremely personal stories and their supporters fought for repeal imo
The_Brood wrote: » As someone who has gone through the university experience, i can tell you that the only thought and opinions ever allowed to be expressed are those firmly in line with the liberal majority. Nothing else is even remotely tolerated.
