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Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

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  • #1502
    [Deleted User]
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    TheBoyConor wrote: »
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    TheBoyConor wrote: »
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    Just when you think the thread couldn't go any lower. You're an absolute disgrace.


  • #1503
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,385 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    ProudIRISHman wrote: »
    Honestly I get a bad vibe watching that video how he stands, his posture, his eyes. Somethings off with him

    If only you seen the video last week and this tragedy would have been avoided :rolleyes:


  • #1504
    Sunflower 27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,955 ✭✭✭Sunflower 27


    TheBoyConor wrote: »
    I'm just wondering has there been any word on the wife and his family? Has there been any statements made or has she been interviewed yet? It would be very interesting to know this guy's backstory and his family situation. It would certainly help us to understand what happened and why it happened.

    I think it's way too soon. As far as we know they are innocent victims as well. Someone on here mentioned the wife being pregnant with her third child.

    Her world has been ripped apart.

    In time it will all be revealed, as with any crime like this. I'd imagine a statement to the media is the last thing she is thinking of. She is now a single mother to children whose father is a murderer. This is her new life. He's destroyed so many lives.


  • #1505
    dodderangler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,203 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Why it all of a sudden everyone here is turning into Sherlock feckin Holmes?
    A scumbag just murdered a woman. Ruined her families life and his own and his kids. Everyone is like" wonder what his motive was and did he know her etc!" Doesn't matter. No excuse for what he down. If he knew her or if she knew him. It doesn't matter. Look what he done. Now he took the easy way out and was shot. For god sake cop and show respect on it. Offer condolences and shut up. Bit of respect. Few on here using emojis and shît. Grow up.


  • #1506
    RacoonQueen
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,369 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    So, now because one person claims they have information they were having an affair. People take this as gospel.

    Even if he did leave a note saying this, does not mean it was actually true. He could have hastily scribbled that as a way to try justify his actions. The guards believe she was dead within 40 mins of being abducted based on the sightings of his car (that was on 9 O'Clock news last night)
    News also stated his DNA would be run against unsolved crimes, they could have reason to believe this wasn't his first time doing this, which might blow the concept of an affair out of the water. Unless he's had numerous affairs...


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  • #1507
    The Cush
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    GoFundMe page now up - https://www.gofundme.com/jastine-valdez-memorial


  • #1508
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    wellwhynot wrote: »
    He was in the Ramblers Rest in Ballybrack on Saturday night. That makes me think he has done this before but then leaving the note which told where her body was shows a slight semblance of remorse.

    But when did he write the note? My guess is that on Saturday night, he didn't yet realise he was snared, it's possible the guards only had a partial reg at that stage, and hadn't positively identified the perpetrator.

    I have to admit to kind of dismissing the initial reports of this when I heard about it, I think it was around 4pm on Sunday, I told my wife it was prob a domestic or family dispute.

    Hadn't really been following it too much until I popped into a newsagent in Tullow, and my heart sank when I realised the seriousness of the situation, and that the perpetrator was Irish, because I like to try and believe that things like that just don't happen here.

    Thankfully, they are rare in the extreme.

    Sick fcuker, to have such disregard and absolute devalue a young woman's life in order to get his own rocks off.

    Hope the young lady rests in peace and the families involved (all sides) get the help and support they will undoubtedly need now.


  • #1509
    SeaFields
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    TheBoyConor wrote: »
    I'm just wondering has there been any word on the wife and his family? Has there been any statements made or has she been interviewed yet? It would be very interesting to know this guy's backstory and his family situation. It would certainly help us to understand what happened and why it happened.

    I would hope the media will leave well alone. On the face of what is in the public domain currently, herself and her kids are also victims in this. She has no obligation to make any statement publicly and hopefully the media will respect that.


  • #1510
    NickD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭NickD


    RacoonQueen wrote: »
    So, now because one person claims they have information they were having an affair. People take this as gospel.

    Even if he did leave a note saying this, does not mean it was actually true. He could have hastily scribbled that as a way to try justify his actions. The guards believe she was dead within 40 mins of being abducted based on the sightings of his car (that was on 9 O'Clock news last night)
    News also stated his DNA would be run against unsolved crimes, they could have reason to believe this wasn't his first time doing this, which might blow the concept of an affair out of the water. Unless he's had numerous affairs...

    Exactly, guards say there's no link between them, horrible man leaves note to justify murder and we're just going to take his word for it.

    Yeah, let's not do that. Maybe we should leave the sleuthing to the trained professionals. And maybe we should avoid dragging the victim's name through the mud.


  • #1511
    [Deleted User]
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    Jeez Conor. That’s so below the belt.


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  • #1512
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Just when you think this thread can't stoop any lower, holy moly...


  • #1513
    Beechwoodspark
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    Python Desk wrote: »
    I've seen suggestions that she somehow "deserved what she got" because she was blackmailing him supposedly. There hasn't been a shred of evidence to support that. If anyone got what they deserved it was Hennessy.

    That’s it. All the papers report the guards have found no connection between her and her killer.


  • #1514
    whiskeyman
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    Did he return home on Sat night, or stay in his car after the pub?
    Or maybe he stayed somewhere else?


  • #1515
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    RacoonQueen wrote: »
    So, now because one person claims they have information they were having an affair. People take this as gospel.

    Even if he did leave a note saying this, does not mean it was actually true. He could have hastily scribbled that as a way to try justify his actions. The guards believe she was dead within 40 mins of being abducted based on the sightings of his car (that was on 9 O'Clock news last night)
    News also stated his DNA would be run against unsolved crimes, they could have reason to believe this wasn't his first time doing this, which might blow the concept of an affair out of the water. Unless he's had numerous affairs...

    In any case an “affair” could be a man asking a woman out for a date, she realises what he’s like and that he’s actually got a wife, she pulls out of anything further to do with him and he’s not too pleased with the insult. I’m sure such a woman would not consider herself having had an “affair”.


  • #1516
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    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Jeez Conor. That’s so below the belt.
    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Just when you think this thread can't stoop any lower, holy moly...

    The same Conor who said the deceased could've been a prostitute/escort, although that may have been redacted. Just no decorum at all. You would hope it's naivety and not something more sinister or trolling, there's been enough of that on here already.


  • #1517
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    kingofclay wrote: »
    I remember about 5 or so years back there was an attempted abduction of a girl up in Shankill at a bus stop(up towards Crinken Glen) again, this is sort of the vicinity Hennessy lived in.

    There was such an incident too up in Killiney, where American students were attacked on their way to getting an early bus to the airport. Not sure if the guards got someone for that.


  • #1518
    The Bishop Basher
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    TheBoyConor wrote: »
    Well I'm only going off what I'm told here and on Twitter.

    That’s your problem right there..


  • #1519
    NickD
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    The mirror are reporting that he rang his wife before he died to tell her what he'd done.

    That poor woman. That pr1ck left so many victims in his wake.


  • #1520
    Wheety
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    I'd wonder if it was suicide by cop. It happens in America. Force the armed guard to take you down.

    His whole life would have flashed before his eyes when he knew he was caught. I'd say he didn't even think about the victim but how his wife and kids would feel, going to jail for a long time, probably having a very tough time of it. Did he produce the knife to force the guard to react.


  • #1521
    Pawwed Rig
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    Mod note

    theboyconor - banned, I didn't think there could be a worse comment than the last banning but sadly someone delivers

    All please be aware a girl has died. She has friends and family that may well be reading this. Best to keep speculation to a minimum.


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  • #1522
    bloodless_coup
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    Wheety wrote: »
    I'd wonder if it was suicide by cop. It happens in America. Force the armed guard to take you down.

    His whole life would have flashed before his eyes when he knew he was caught. I'd say he didn't even think about the victim but how his wife and kids would feel, going to jail for a long time, probably having a very tough time of it. Did he produce the knife to force the guard to react.
    From what I've read:
    He was in the process of commiting suicide and the guards interrupted him. He had cut his arms and legs. He either lunged at a guard with the knife who was trying to stop him or the knife was taken from him as he tried to cut his own throat, he bent over to get something in the car which the guard thought was a gun and shot him.


  • #1523
    Alkers
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    Nothing of this seems the work of a serial killer, he was so sloppy it was like he wasn't even trying not to get caught


  • #1524
    RockDesk
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    Wheety wrote: »
    I'd wonder if it was suicide by cop. It happens in America. Force the armed guard to take you down.

    I wondered that as well, but would it not be a big risk to expect the Gardaí to have guns and to use them and ultimately kill him?


  • #1525
    Chesty08
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    Simona1986 wrote: »
    Nothing of this seems the work of a serial killer, he was so sloppy it was like he wasn't even trying not to get caught


    Yes I'd be of this thinking myself. Sloppy isn't the word.

    **Something I have heard** he was was on the sex offender list for flashing public (the Dart) and was questioned in relation to the Shankill incidents. Possibly pure speculation


  • #1526
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Chesty08 wrote: »
    Yes I'd be of this thinking myself. Sloppy isn't the word.

    **Something I have heard** he was was on the sex offender list for flashing public (the Dart) and was questioned in relation to the Shankill incidents. Possibly pure speculation

    yes complete speculation


  • #1527
    cagefactor
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    RacoonQueen wrote: »
    News also stated his DNA would be run against unsolved crimes, they could have reason to believe this wasn't his first time doing this, which might blow the concept of an affair out of the water. Unless he's had numerous affairs...

    This is standard operating procedure


  • #1528
    knucklehead6
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    preliminary PM results indicate she was killed between 36 and 48 hours before her body was found.


  • #1529
    Reati
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    Simona1986 wrote: »
    Nothing of this seems the work of a serial killer, he was so sloppy it was like he wasn't even trying not to get caught

    Actually this kind of sloppy points to someone who has done it before in some cases. Getting away with it a few times, doesn't consider it likely to be caught so doesn't think about hiding it.

    If he hadnt got spotted, he likely wouldn't have been caught. His reported behavior afterwards (media reporting he went to pub) and hanging around local Sunday says he wasn't too worried till he likely heard the radio reports looking for him.

    It's hard to think he was that sloppy on purpose but who knows what is going on in his head.


  • #1530
    snotboogie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,794 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Reati wrote: »
    Simona1986 wrote: »
    Nothing of this seems the work of a serial killer, he was so sloppy it was like he wasn't even trying not to get caught

    Actually this kind of sloppy points to someone who has done it before in some cases. Getting away with it a few times, doesn't consider it likely to be caught so doesn't think about hiding it.

    If he hadnt got spotted, he likely wouldn't have been caught. His reported behavior afterwards (media reporting he went to pub) and hanging around local Sunday says he wasn't too worried till he likely heard the radio reports looking for him.

    It's hard to think he was that sloppy on purpose but who knows what is going on in his head.
    I wouldn't say the car spotted him, it seems to have been done brazenly right in front of witness:
    “A man stopped his car in front of me and punched a woman. He dragged her into his boot.”
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/i-think-ive-seen-something-terrible-what-eyewitness-said-after-spotting-suspected-abduction-36928400.html


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  • #1531
    paw patrol
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    Chesty08 wrote: »
    Yes I'd be of this thinking myself. Sloppy isn't the word.

    **Something I have heard** he was was on the sex offender list for flashing public (the Dart) and was questioned in relation to the Shankill incidents. Possibly pure speculation

    this isn't true,
    His previous convictions were in the papers all minor drunk and disorderly stuff. He was facing drink driving charges in the future.

    All minor stuff.

    If he was a sex offender you can rest assured the tabloids would have danced a jig and blown it up and made claims that he was graham dwyer and larry murphys love child.


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