Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

Suckit · 21-05-2018 06:52PM

ProudIRISHman wrote: »

If the majority of boards.ie posters think that acting how he acts in that pub is normal then honestly I feel sorry for the boards.ie community.

You saw a 20 second clip on loop.
How do you know how he acts in pubs?

NickD · 21-05-2018 06:53PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Things we have in spades:

Special weapons & tactics experts
Crisis negotiation experts
Body language experts.

Don't forget the Liam Neesons

Franz Von Peppercorn · 21-05-2018 06:54PM

ProudIRISHman wrote: »

If the majority of boards.ie posters think that acting how he acts in that pub is normal then honestly I feel sorry for the boards.ie community.

I wasn’t talking about the pub video. Can you try and follow the thread.

eviltwin · 21-05-2018 06:55PM

chooey wrote: »

I have to say I thought the same. I can't imagine seeing someone bundled into a boot of a car or seeing someone distressed in the back and being worried enough to call the guards but just let the car go. Surely you could try following at a distance. Worst case it all turns out to be a misunderstanding, best case it could help someone.

Shock most likely. Easy to say the witness should have followed but I'd imagine they were still processing what they saw long after he'd left the scene. That person has nothing to feel guilty for. Getting the car reg was enough.

Ms2011 · 21-05-2018 06:55PM

ProudIRISHman wrote: »

Honestly I get a bad vibe watching that video how he stands, his posture, his eyes. Somethings off with him

The video of him in the pub he comes off as a bit of an a***hole (to me), not unusual for some people with a few drinks on them but nothing more than that imo.

soiseztomabel · 21-05-2018 06:55PM

MaccaTacca wrote: »

No context to that video of him in the pub whatsoever.

Those women could easily be part of his family.

Absolute nonsense from people saying that “you can tell hes a physco”.

Anyone can look weird when framed in the wrong way.

Exactly... context is king, unless you're a pseudo crime profiler..... like at least half the people on this thread.

ProudIRISHman · 21-05-2018 06:56PM

sillysocks wrote: »

Had no hope? He was married with children!

Not to be bad but for all we know his wife was like him (not the murderer part the socially awkward part)

Watching that video of him in the pub shows he was utterly disastrous with women and they weren't even lookers judging from their bodies...

Sunflower 27 · 21-05-2018 06:57PM

Suckit wrote: »

You saw a 20 second clip on loop.
How do you know how he acts in pubs?

Exactly. A snippet of film and from that some people can see what he us potentially capable of. Ridiculous.

Go into any pub and you will see men just as awkward.

Captain Obvious · 21-05-2018 06:57PM

I know it sounds morbid but I really hope the time of death was shortly after the time of abduction. I'd hate to think she went through an ordeal like Ana Kriegel. It's really hard to keep faith in humanity when you read about these incidents.

Ash.J.Williams · 21-05-2018 06:58PM

I am in pubs regularly sober and everyone looks like that

Roger Hassenforder · 21-05-2018 06:58PM

ProudIRISHman wrote: »

Not to be bad but for all we know his wife was like him (not the murderer part the socially awkward part)

Watching that video of him in the pub shows he was utterly disastrous with women and they weren't even lookers judging from their bodies...

Christ "man" you're flogging this horse.
Jockey club need to take a look at this

wdmfapq4zs83hv · 21-05-2018 06:58PM

Where is the video of him in the pub?

OldMrBrennan83 · 21-05-2018 06:59PM

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Sunflower 27 · 21-05-2018 07:00PM

Suckit wrote: »

You saw a 20 second clip on loop.
How do you know how he acts in pubs?

Exactly. A snippet of film and from that some people can "see" what he is potentially capable of. Ridiculous.

Go into any pub and you will see men just as awkward.

boombang · 21-05-2018 07:01PM

Not wanting to slam the Guards here. I know real life is not CSI.

Was the reg known on Saturday? Do we know if he had his phone on him and switched on Saturday? Just wondering about the possibility of locating him through his phone. Presume he had it switched off.

Doesn't seem like a well planned attack if he's driving with her visible in the car on the N11.

Ash.J.Williams · 21-05-2018 07:03PM

boombang wrote: »

Not wanting to slam the Guards here. I know real life is not CSI.

Was the reg known on Saturday? Do we know if he had his phone on him and switched on Saturday? Just wondering about the possibility of locating him through his phone. Presume he had it switched off.

Doesn't seem like a well planned attack if he's driving with her visible in the car on the N11.

If that one person hadn't seen him punch her and abduct her we wouldnt be here posting about it

wexie · 21-05-2018 07:04PM

ProudIRISHman wrote: »

That clip says all we need to know about him and his attempts with women. The guy was socially awkward, desperate for women but couldn't chat them up to save his life.

A lot of Irish men are just as awkward no one is denying that I am just saying that watching the video and knowing what we know now its hardly surprising.

And you're saying this off course in your capacity as a criminal psychologist* right?

Right?

(*it's okay you can google it)

seamus · 21-05-2018 07:04PM

Apparently the context of the pub video is that it was taken on Saturday night.

That may be completely wrong though.

ProudIRISHman · 21-05-2018 07:06PM

Sunflower 27 wrote: »

Exactly. A snippet of film and from that some people can "see" what he is potentially capable of. Ridiculous.

Go into any pub and you will see men just as awkward.

I never said that. I said knowing what we know now its not surprsising to see socially awkward man who can't chat up women in the video.

Are you denying that most men who engage in these sort of crimes aren't socially awkward and resentful towards woman because of their lack of success?

Also I'll defend my country and say that while Irish man aren't as smooth as say French or Italians I would argue that most Irish men are not as bad as the creep in that video.

21-05-2018 07:07PM

ProudIRISHman wrote: »

It doesn't matter as I can't say. We will go by whats reported and that one driver saw her in the front passenger seat in distress as it doesn'ta ffect my argument.

He knew she was in enough danger to call the guards but didn't bother to stay on the phone to them and follow them giving the guards updates on their location. A life could have been saved.

We don’t know anything about this driver. Personally I would not be able to simultaneously drive and make a phone call, moreover especially as my whole body would be shaking with fright having just witnessed somebody in great distress, all happening out of the blue. I remember having to stop my car at the scene of an accident where a motorbike went across me and into the sea (thankfully not fatal) in a remote place with little traffic in Scotland. My hands were trembling and could dial even 999. That’s just me, maybe everyone else is brilliant at multitasking successfully in a state of sudden shock.

Purple Mountain · 21-05-2018 07:07PM

Did he realize that he had been seen abducting her I wonder?
Because if he thought he hadn't been seen, he would have come home that night to pretend everything was normal.
I'm just trying to piece together if he had banked on not being seen and getting away with it or was it a moment of madness and he snapped not caring about the consequences?

The Talking Bread · 21-05-2018 07:08PM

seamus wrote: »

Apparently the context of the pub video is that it was taken on Saturday night.

That may be completely wrong though.

Of course it is completely wrong.

ProudIRISHman · 21-05-2018 07:08PM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

In fcuking fairness.
Are you 17?

No mate but they aren't good looking women no matter how you try spin it. I am just being honest. If he can't even chat up them then he probably couldnt get any woman.

Ash.J.Williams · 21-05-2018 07:08PM

ProudIRISHman wrote: »

I never said that. I said knowing what we know now its not surprsising to see socially awkward man who can't chat up women in the video.

Are you denying that most men who engage in these sort of crimes aren't socially awkward and resentful towards woman because of their lack of success?

Also I'll defend my country and say that while Irish man aren't as smooth as say French or Italians I would argue that most Irish men are not as bad as the creep in that video.

I'm not sure if bring successful with women matters when you're married with 2 kids

Peatys · 21-05-2018 07:09PM

rockatansky wrote: »

For the love of Christ, will someone please put an end to this utter sh1te being spouted by this absolute moron.

Time for an updated username.. again

munster87 · 21-05-2018 07:09PM

ProudIRISHman wrote: »

No mate but they aren't good looking women no matter how you try spin it. I am just being honest. If he can't even chat up them then he probably couldnt get any woman.

Their faces look odd alright

ProudIRISHman · 21-05-2018 07:09PM

wexie wrote: »

And you're saying this off course in your capacity as a criminal psychologist* right?

Right?

(*it's okay you can google it)

Socially awkward
Rejected by women.

Why don't you google the FBI's profile of serial killers who target women?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 21-05-2018 07:10PM

ProudIRISHman wrote: »

Socially awkward
Rejected by women.

Why don't you google the FBI's profile of serial killers who target women?

What a load of irrelevant tripe.

rizzodun · 21-05-2018 07:10PM

ProudIRISHman wrote: »

No mate but they aren't good looking women no matter how you try spin it. I am just being honest. If he can't even chat up them then he probably couldnt get any woman.

**** it, I'll take the card, ladies and gentlemen, I present to you: A Dickhead.

Mod-Banned

nacho libre · 21-05-2018 07:11PM

NickD wrote: »

Don't forget the Liam Neesons

Hindsight is a great general. Easy to sit and type how you(not you personally) could have done better and stopped this tragedy occurring. I hope the community there can be some comfort to the victims family. I recall the parents of the Swiss girl got some solace from the kindness of strangers after the pond scum who murdered her in Galway. The same for the parents of the teenager in Kildare

Jastine Valdez found dead. No Ana discussion please. Mod warning post 1

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