The Academies

The Lost Sheep · 02-05-2018 05:24PM

FrannoFan wrote: »

The coaching across all the top 6 and league schools is excellent. The gap between top league and big 6 wasn't big (gerrards ran rock close to a 2 point gap which was more than belvo did in the final) gonzaga similar against the other finalist belvo in early round.

All these schools provide excellent coaching s&c as well as video analysis. It helps stand out in a bigger school as you might progress further in cup and get noticed but to make it now you need to be a physical freak.
The spread of schools represented by leinster goes to show if you are good enough you will make it.
Andrews
Gonzaga
Castleknock
Wesley
Roscrea
Etc all have players breaking through to pro game

As well as kids coming through youths rugby. Its simply if good enough you will get the opportunity to be seen train/play at a higher level.

irishfan9 · 02-05-2018 05:27PM

i think its underrated the excellent s&c work michaels do.. they really develop excellent athletes along with rugby players.

irishfan9 · 02-05-2018 05:37PM

Ranking Academy second rows in terms of potential since Ross Molony:

1. James Ryan(1996) - 6'8
2. Ryan Baird(1999) - 6'6
3. Jack Dunne(1998) - 6'7
4. Ross Molony(1994) - 6'6
5. Oisin Dowling(1997) - 6'5
6. David O'Connor(1995) - 6'4

Dubinusa · 02-05-2018 06:08PM

Wonder where Charlie Ryan will go? Can't see 4 2nd rows in the academy next year.

irishfan9 · 02-05-2018 06:10PM

Dubinusa wrote: »

Wonder where Charlie Ryan will go? Can't see 4 2nd rows in the academy next year.

could do another season in the sub-academy.. in fact id say thats pretty likely.

for instance this is dalys 2nd season in sub academy.

Ifiniter · 02-05-2018 06:31PM

irishfan9 wrote: »

Told Cormac Daly also joining leinster academy.

Daly has not been offered contract by leinster.

irishfan9 · 02-05-2018 06:43PM

Ifiniter wrote: »

irishfan9 wrote: »

Told Cormac Daly also joining leinster academy.

Daly has not been offered contract by leinster.

maybe not.. we shall wait and see i hope he was though

Ifiniter · 02-05-2018 06:49PM

irishfan9 wrote: »

Ifiniter wrote: »

maybe not.. we shall wait and see i hope he was though

Also hasnt been offer by any other province very disapointing.

irishfan9 · 02-05-2018 06:55PM

Ifiniter wrote: »

irishfan9 wrote: »

Also hasnt been offer by any other province very disapointing.

hmm a big world cup could change that if true

Ayewserious · 02-05-2018 08:50PM

Ifiniter wrote: »

irishfan9 wrote: »

Also hasnt been offer by any other province very disapointing.

Find that very hard to believe

irishfan9 · 02-05-2018 08:51PM

Ayewserious wrote: »

Ifiniter wrote: »

Find that very hard to believe

we will just have to wait and see.

leinster should offer him a spot.. cant have an academy of just michaels and blackrock players.

Thermoman12 · 02-05-2018 08:56PM

irishfan9 wrote: »

i think its underrated the excellent s&c work michaels do.. they really develop excellent athletes along with rugby players.

And yet they haven’t won a senior cup since 2012

irishfan9 · 02-05-2018 08:59PM

Thermoman12 wrote: »

And yet they haven’t won a senior cup since 2012

yup they havent.. but we arent talking about that we are talking about their recent run in producing academy players for leinster..

Dubinusa · 02-05-2018 10:33PM

He'd be a good pick up for Connact. Maybe Munster also. Ulster have 3 2nd rows in the academy.
He looks like a really good player too.
Anyone hear anything on Connors?

irishfan9 · 03-05-2018 08:50AM

Connacht bringing in a 2nd row in Niall Murray afaik.

irishfan9 · 03-05-2018 09:06AM

So David Ryan and Dan O'Donovan will be in the sub academy next season. Both have a lot of work to do to join their school mates.

Wegians89 · 03-05-2018 09:12AM

irishfan9 wrote: »

Connacht bringing in a 2nd row in Niall Murray afaik.

Just after promoting 2 second rows to the senior squad so could bring in a second lock. They could wait for a year though as there’s a few u18s who could go straight into the academy this time next year including Niall’s brother Darragh and Iarlaith Laheen-Morrin another

irishfan9 · 03-05-2018 09:13AM

If Daly has no offer, it's pretty simple, go to the JWC and earn one.

kingofthekong · 03-05-2018 09:43AM

Whats happened to David O'connor - I know he was plagued with injuries the last couple years

irishfan9 · 03-05-2018 09:47AM

kingofthekong wrote: »

Whats happened to David O'connor - I know he was plagued with injuries the last couple years

he was released from the leinster academy - too small.

playing ail for Marys.

ArmchairQB · 03-05-2018 10:34AM

irishfan9 wrote: »

Ayewserious wrote: »

we will just have to wait and see.

leinster should offer him a spot.. cant have an academy of just michaels and blackrock players.

Academy is for best players or best available players regardless of where they come from. HeardRyan was ahead of Daly in Leinsters view with regards potential but as said a good world cup can change everything

irishfan9 · 03-05-2018 10:37AM

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Academy is for best players or best available players regardless of where they come from. HeardRyan was ahead of Daly in Leinsters view with regards potential but as said a good world cup can change everything

Agreed on best available players, but IMO Daly is one of them.

Although I am of the opinion that leinster should always take in more academy players than they do..

Charlie Ryan probably does have more physical potential than Daly.. but it's not dis-similar.

Daly I'd rate ahead of Dowling, so that should be enough IMO.

Needs to go to world cup and tear up trees.

irishfan9 · 03-05-2018 12:14PM

So leaving leinster academy:
Jeremy Loughman(LH Prop)
Oisin Heffernan(TH Prop)
Sean McNulty(Hooker)
Josh Murphy(Blindside)
Charlie Rock(Scrumhalf)
Ian Fitzpatrick(Wing)

Rumoured to be leaving:
Vakh Abdaladze(TH Prop)
Caelan Doris(Backrow)
Will Connors(Openside)
Ciaran Frawley(Outhalf/Centre)
Jordan Larmour(Back Three)

Left in academy:
Jack Aungier(TH Prop)
Ronan Kelleher(Hooker)
Oisin Dowling(Lock/Blindside)
Hugh O'Sullivan(Scrumhalf)
Conor O'Brien(Centre)
Jimmy O'Brien(Centre)
Gavin Mullin(Centre)
Tommy O'Brien(Centre/Wing)
Hugo Keenan(Wing)
Terry Kennedy(Wing)
Jack Kelly(Back Three)

Rumoured to be joining:
Jack Dunne(Lock)
Ryan Baird(Lock) - u19
Scott Penny(Openside) - u19
Harry Byrne(Outhalf) - u19

Options to join:
Jordan Duggan(LH Prop)
Joe Byrne(TH Prop)
Eoghan Clarke(Hooker)
Dan Sheehan(Hooker)
Cormac Daly(2nd Row)
Charlie Ryan(2nd Row) - u19
Ronan Foley(Backrow)
Max Kearney(Openside)
Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf)
James Kenny(Scrumhalf)
Cormac Foley(Scrumhalf) - u19
Conor Dean(Outhalf)
David Hawkshaw(Outhalf/Centre) - u19
Sean O'Brien(Centre)
Michael Silvester(Back Three)
Peter Sullivan(Wing)
Liam Turner(Wing) - u19

FellasFellas · 03-05-2018 12:38PM

irishfan9 wrote: »

So leaving leinster academy:
Jeremy Loughman(LH Prop)
Oisin Heffernan(TH Prop)
Sean McNulty(Hooker)
Josh Murphy(Blindside)
Charlie Rock(Scrumhalf)
Ian Fitzpatrick(Wing)

Rumoured to be leaving:
Vakh Abdaladze(TH Prop)
Caelan Doris(Backrow)
Will Connors(Openside)
Ciaran Frawley(Outhalf/Centre)
Jordan Larmour(Back Three)

Left in academy:
Jack Aungier(TH Prop)
Ronan Kelleher(Hooker)
Oisin Dowling(Lock/Blindside)
Hugh O'Sullivan(Scrumhalf)
Conor O'Brien(Centre)
Jimmy O'Brien(Centre)
Gavin Mullin(Centre)
Tommy O'Brien(Centre/Wing)
Hugo Keenan(Wing)
Terry Kennedy(Wing)
Jack Kelly(Back Three)

Rumoured to be joining:
Jack Dunne(Lock)
Ryan Baird(Lock) - u19
Scott Penny(Openside) - u19
Harry Byrne(Outhalf) - u19

Options to join:
Jordan Duggan(LH Prop)
Joe Byrne(TH Prop)
Eoghan Clarke(Hooker)
Dan Sheehan(Hooker)
Cormac Daly(2nd Row)
Charlie Ryan(2nd Row) - u19
Ronan Foley(Backrow)
Max Kearney(Openside)
Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf)
James Kenny(Scrumhalf)
Cormac Foley(Scrumhalf) - u19
Conor Dean(Outhalf)
David Hawkshaw(Outhalf/Centre) - u19
Sean O'Brien(Centre)
Michael Silvester(Back Three)
Peter Sullivan(Wing)
Liam Turner(Wing) - u19

Silvester joining academy I think.

foxyladyxx · 03-05-2018 12:49PM

FellasFellas wrote: »

Silvester joining academy I think.

Liam Turner also.

irishfan9 · 03-05-2018 01:07PM

IRELAND UNDER-18 MEN'S SEVENS Squad (2018 Rugby Europe Under-18 Men's Sevens Championship, Aukstaitijos Sporto Komplekse, Panevezys, Lithuania, Saturday, May 5-Sunday, May 6):

Ben Daly (Waterpark RFC/Munster)
Brian Deeny (Wexford Wanderers RFC/Leinster)
Hayden Hyde (Cranleigh School/Harlequins Academy/IQ Rugby)
Jack Hunt (Rockwell College/Munster)
Alex Kendellen (PBC Cork/Munster)
John Maher (Clongowes Wood College/Leinster)
Mark O'Brien (St. Michael's College/Leinster)
Kevin O'Connor (Cashel RFC/Munster)
Ryan O'Neill (Royal School Armagh/Ulster)
Ronan Quinn (Glenstal Abbey/Munster) (capt)
Andrew Smith (St. Michael's College/Leinster)
Ben Watson (St. Gerard's School/Leinster)

irishfan9 · 03-05-2018 01:07PM

foxyladyxx wrote: »

Liam Turner also.

that would be a surprise..

irishfan9 · 03-05-2018 01:27PM

FellasFellas wrote: »

Silvester joining academy I think.

yeah would be a surprise if he didn't.. i wonder if one of Kennedy/Keenan are released from academy.

Dubinusa · 03-05-2018 01:58PM

Where's Rock going? Is Murphy leaving to go elsewhere?

irishfan9 · 03-05-2018 01:59PM

Dubinusa wrote: »

Where's Rock going? Is Murphy leaving to go elsewhere?

both are staying with leinster but leaving the academy afaik.

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