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The Academies

List of every player currently in one of the four Irish academies.

Loosehead Ed Byrne
Loosehead Jack O'Connell
Loosehead Kyle McCall
Loosehead Finlay Bealham
Loosehead James Cronin
Loosehead/Hooker James Treacy
Hooker Niall Scannell
Hooker Brian Byrne
Hooker David Doyle
Hooker Jonny Murphy
Hooker Kevin O'Byrne
Hooker Duncan Casey
Hooker James Rael
Tighthead Martin Moore
Tighthead Tadhg Furlong
Tighthead Conor Carey
Tighthead Jake Caulfield
Tighthead Jamie Dever
Tighthead Peter Reilly
Lock Cathal O'Flaherty
Lock Tadhg Beirne
Lock Gavin Thornbury
Lock Alan O'Connor
Lock James Simpson
Lock Daniel Qualter
Lock Ultan Dilane
Lock Philip Donnellan
Lock Brian Hayes
Flanker/Lock Ben Marshall
Flanker Dan Leavy
Flanker Conor Gilsenan
Flanker Josh Van Der Flier
Flanker Jordi Murphy
Flanker Conor Joyce
Flanker Neil Faloon
Flanker Aaron Conneely
Flanker David Heffernan
Flanker Jonathan Gardiner
Flanker Shane Buckley
Flanker Ryan Murphy
Eight Jack Conan
Eight Sean O'Connell
Eight Jack O'Donoghue
Scrum Half Luke McGrath
Scrum Half Marcus Walsh
Scrum Half Kieran Marmion(may have signed a non academy contract recently)
Scrum Half Brian Haugh
Outhalf Cathal Marsh
Outhalf Noel Reid
Outhalf Stuart Olding
Outhalf Jack Carty
Outhalf Tadgh Leader
Outhalf Johnny Holland
Centre Cian Bohane
Centre Jordan Coughlan
Centre Colm O'Shea
Centre Chris Farrell
Centre Corey Hircock
Centre Harry McNulty
Centre/Fullback Robbie Henshaw(may have signed a non academy contract recently)
Wing Andrew Boyle
Wing Sam Coughlan Murray
Wing Conor Finn
Wing Steve Macauley
Wing Ronan O'Mahony
Wing/Fullback Darren Hudson
Wing/Fullback Darren Moroney
Fullback Mikey Sherlock*(not sure about his status)
Fullback Rory Scholes
Fullback Peter Nelson
Fullback Ricky Andrew
Fullback Shane Layden
Fullback Darragh Leader
Fullback Darren Sweetnam

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FrannoFan wrote: »

The coaching across all the top 6 and league schools is excellent. The gap between top league and big 6 wasn't big (gerrards ran rock close to a 2 point gap which was more than belvo did in the final) gonzaga similar against the other finalist belvo in early round.

All these schools provide excellent coaching s&c as well as video analysis. It helps stand out in a bigger school as you might progress further in cup and get noticed but to make it now you need to be a physical freak.
The spread of schools represented by leinster goes to show if you are good enough you will make it.
Andrews
Gonzaga
Castleknock
Wesley
Roscrea
Etc all have players breaking through to pro game

As well as kids coming through youths rugby. Its simply if good enough you will get the opportunity to be seen train/play at a higher level.

i think its underrated the excellent s&c work michaels do.. they really develop excellent athletes along with rugby players.

Ranking Academy second rows in terms of potential since Ross Molony:

1. James Ryan(1996) - 6'8
2. Ryan Baird(1999) - 6'6
3. Jack Dunne(1998) - 6'7
4. Ross Molony(1994) - 6'6
5. Oisin Dowling(1997) - 6'5
6. David O'Connor(1995) - 6'4

Wonder where Charlie Ryan will go? Can't see 4 2nd rows in the academy next year.

Dubinusa wrote: »

Wonder where Charlie Ryan will go? Can't see 4 2nd rows in the academy next year.

could do another season in the sub-academy.. in fact id say thats pretty likely.

for instance this is dalys 2nd season in sub academy.

irishfan9 wrote: »

Told Cormac Daly also joining leinster academy.

Daly has not been offered contract by leinster.

Ifiniter wrote: »

irishfan9 wrote: »

Told Cormac Daly also joining leinster academy.

Daly has not been offered contract by leinster.

maybe not.. we shall wait and see i hope he was though

irishfan9 wrote: »

Ifiniter wrote: »

maybe not.. we shall wait and see i hope he was though

Also hasnt been offer by any other province very disapointing.

Ifiniter wrote: »

irishfan9 wrote: »

Also hasnt been offer by any other province very disapointing.

hmm a big world cup could change that if true

Ifiniter wrote: »

irishfan9 wrote: »

Also hasnt been offer by any other province very disapointing.

Find that very hard to believe

Ayewserious wrote: »

Ifiniter wrote: »

Find that very hard to believe

we will just have to wait and see.

leinster should offer him a spot.. cant have an academy of just michaels and blackrock players.

irishfan9 wrote: »

i think its underrated the excellent s&c work michaels do.. they really develop excellent athletes along with rugby players.

And yet they haven’t won a senior cup since 2012

Thermoman12 wrote: »

And yet they haven’t won a senior cup since 2012

yup they havent.. but we arent talking about that we are talking about their recent run in producing academy players for leinster..

He'd be a good pick up for Connact. Maybe Munster also. Ulster have 3 2nd rows in the academy.
He looks like a really good player too.
Anyone hear anything on Connors?

Connacht bringing in a 2nd row in Niall Murray afaik.

So David Ryan and Dan O'Donovan will be in the sub academy next season. Both have a lot of work to do to join their school mates.

irishfan9 wrote: »

Connacht bringing in a 2nd row in Niall Murray afaik.

Just after promoting 2 second rows to the senior squad so could bring in a second lock. They could wait for a year though as there’s a few u18s who could go straight into the academy this time next year including Niall’s brother Darragh and Iarlaith Laheen-Morrin another

If Daly has no offer, it's pretty simple, go to the JWC and earn one.

Whats happened to David O'connor - I know he was plagued with injuries the last couple years

kingofthekong wrote: »

Whats happened to David O'connor - I know he was plagued with injuries the last couple years

he was released from the leinster academy - too small.

playing ail for Marys.

irishfan9 wrote: »

Ayewserious wrote: »

we will just have to wait and see.

leinster should offer him a spot.. cant have an academy of just michaels and blackrock players.

Academy is for best players or best available players regardless of where they come from. HeardRyan was ahead of Daly in Leinsters view with regards potential but as said a good world cup can change everything

ArmchairQB wrote: »

Academy is for best players or best available players regardless of where they come from. HeardRyan was ahead of Daly in Leinsters view with regards potential but as said a good world cup can change everything

Agreed on best available players, but IMO Daly is one of them.

Although I am of the opinion that leinster should always take in more academy players than they do..

Charlie Ryan probably does have more physical potential than Daly.. but it's not dis-similar.

Daly I'd rate ahead of Dowling, so that should be enough IMO.

Needs to go to world cup and tear up trees.

So leaving leinster academy:
Jeremy Loughman(LH Prop)
Oisin Heffernan(TH Prop)
Sean McNulty(Hooker)
Josh Murphy(Blindside)
Charlie Rock(Scrumhalf)
Ian Fitzpatrick(Wing)

Rumoured to be leaving:
Vakh Abdaladze(TH Prop)
Caelan Doris(Backrow)
Will Connors(Openside)
Ciaran Frawley(Outhalf/Centre)
Jordan Larmour(Back Three)

Left in academy:
Jack Aungier(TH Prop)
Ronan Kelleher(Hooker)
Oisin Dowling(Lock/Blindside)
Hugh O'Sullivan(Scrumhalf)
Conor O'Brien(Centre)
Jimmy O'Brien(Centre)
Gavin Mullin(Centre)
Tommy O'Brien(Centre/Wing)
Hugo Keenan(Wing)
Terry Kennedy(Wing)
Jack Kelly(Back Three)

Rumoured to be joining:
Jack Dunne(Lock)
Ryan Baird(Lock) - u19
Scott Penny(Openside) - u19
Harry Byrne(Outhalf) - u19

Options to join:
Jordan Duggan(LH Prop)
Joe Byrne(TH Prop)
Eoghan Clarke(Hooker)
Dan Sheehan(Hooker)
Cormac Daly(2nd Row)
Charlie Ryan(2nd Row) - u19
Ronan Foley(Backrow)
Max Kearney(Openside)
Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf)
James Kenny(Scrumhalf)
Cormac Foley(Scrumhalf) - u19
Conor Dean(Outhalf)
David Hawkshaw(Outhalf/Centre) - u19
Sean O'Brien(Centre)
Michael Silvester(Back Three)
Peter Sullivan(Wing)
Liam Turner(Wing) - u19

irishfan9 wrote: »

So leaving leinster academy:
Jeremy Loughman(LH Prop)
Oisin Heffernan(TH Prop)
Sean McNulty(Hooker)
Josh Murphy(Blindside)
Charlie Rock(Scrumhalf)
Ian Fitzpatrick(Wing)

Rumoured to be leaving:
Vakh Abdaladze(TH Prop)
Caelan Doris(Backrow)
Will Connors(Openside)
Ciaran Frawley(Outhalf/Centre)
Jordan Larmour(Back Three)

Left in academy:
Jack Aungier(TH Prop)
Ronan Kelleher(Hooker)
Oisin Dowling(Lock/Blindside)
Hugh O'Sullivan(Scrumhalf)
Conor O'Brien(Centre)
Jimmy O'Brien(Centre)
Gavin Mullin(Centre)
Tommy O'Brien(Centre/Wing)
Hugo Keenan(Wing)
Terry Kennedy(Wing)
Jack Kelly(Back Three)

Rumoured to be joining:
Jack Dunne(Lock)
Ryan Baird(Lock) - u19
Scott Penny(Openside) - u19
Harry Byrne(Outhalf) - u19

Options to join:
Jordan Duggan(LH Prop)
Joe Byrne(TH Prop)
Eoghan Clarke(Hooker)
Dan Sheehan(Hooker)
Cormac Daly(2nd Row)
Charlie Ryan(2nd Row) - u19
Ronan Foley(Backrow)
Max Kearney(Openside)
Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf)
James Kenny(Scrumhalf)
Cormac Foley(Scrumhalf) - u19
Conor Dean(Outhalf)
David Hawkshaw(Outhalf/Centre) - u19
Sean O'Brien(Centre)
Michael Silvester(Back Three)
Peter Sullivan(Wing)
Liam Turner(Wing) - u19

Silvester joining academy I think.

FellasFellas wrote: »

Silvester joining academy I think.

Liam Turner also.

IRELAND UNDER-18 MEN'S SEVENS Squad (2018 Rugby Europe Under-18 Men's Sevens Championship, Aukstaitijos Sporto Komplekse, Panevezys, Lithuania, Saturday, May 5-Sunday, May 6):

Ben Daly (Waterpark RFC/Munster)
Brian Deeny (Wexford Wanderers RFC/Leinster)
Hayden Hyde (Cranleigh School/Harlequins Academy/IQ Rugby)
Jack Hunt (Rockwell College/Munster)
Alex Kendellen (PBC Cork/Munster)
John Maher (Clongowes Wood College/Leinster)
Mark O'Brien (St. Michael's College/Leinster)
Kevin O'Connor (Cashel RFC/Munster)
Ryan O'Neill (Royal School Armagh/Ulster)
Ronan Quinn (Glenstal Abbey/Munster) (capt)
Andrew Smith (St. Michael's College/Leinster)
Ben Watson (St. Gerard's School/Leinster)

foxyladyxx wrote: »

Liam Turner also.

that would be a surprise..

FellasFellas wrote: »

Silvester joining academy I think.

yeah would be a surprise if he didn't.. i wonder if one of Kennedy/Keenan are released from academy.

Where's Rock going? Is Murphy leaving to go elsewhere?

Dubinusa wrote: »

Where's Rock going? Is Murphy leaving to go elsewhere?

both are staying with leinster but leaving the academy afaik.