African gang beat the sh*t out of two gardai with a baseball bat.

baylah17 wrote: »

Racist
By the way I think you're mixing up Somali pirates
There is no history of piracy in Nigera
But then again as you said you're a racist

He is correct on some points , Nigerian's have a terrible reputation within Africa itself and many have enhanced that reputation here with their behaviour or perceived lack of motivation to join the workforce.

A very close relative who works in the welfare dept has recently admitted how , years of abusing the system has left her (internally ) resentful towards many of them .

Deporting anyone who commits a serious crime is common sense , I would expect the same treatment if I was living abroad .

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

The full force of the state needs to come down on this now nip it in the bud make it a very difficult country to operate in

Run them out of it

The state turned a blind eye to another group for the last forty years and look at the crime crew they have turned into

The state can't even deal with the paltry amount of stuff they have to, for a small country with 4.5 mill people.

Enochwasright wrote: »

There would certainly be a hell of a lot less crime as the three groups you mentioned are vastly over represented in crime but alas we would still have our indigenous criminals and no rainbow farting unicorns we would have a hell of a lot more resources to help the indigenous people and stop many of the following a criminal lifestyle, but liberals don't care about our own working class.

You'll have numbers to back up this assertion?

irishproduce wrote: »

This is a good point. Part of the reason we will all be expected to work into our 70s and above will be to provide for these troublemakers we are importing.
Think about that, that your retirement will be shortened so that foreign troublemakers can be looked after throughout their lives.

So if it was for an exploding white population you'd be OK with it?

facehugger99 wrote: »

Of course, I'm old enough to remember the 70's and 80's before there was any immigration. It was a time of peace and tranquility, if you ignore the fact that practically every measurable crime statistic was higher back then.

And so it should be. And all the more reason why people of African origin whaling into a Garda with a baseball bat in a quiet corner of Dublin near Foxrock should raise an eyebrow, I'd say! :pac:

Enochwasright wrote: »

This is another example of a strawman argument, usually deployed when the person finds it hard to counter an argument so will construct their own "argument" that helps them feel they are victorious.

Not really. This who thread though is a logical fallacy though. .

1) select the group you don't like. In this case black people.

2) find something that one or more did wrong.

3) use that as a reason to blame the whole group.

The op specifically created a thread so he could rant about black people and immigration. Others joined in. Then they try and use the same tactics again and again.

And if you want the perfect example of a strawman argument, look at the post I quoted.

Why didn't the armed guards shoot the dog??

JonnyM wrote: »

Why didn't the armed guards shoot the dog??

GSOC probably.

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

A whataboutary sneer isn’t an argument. In this specific case the question is whether the perpetrators should be deported (yes) and whether our immigration system is fit for purpose.

The effectiveness of any immigration system should be questioned, continually. There is no point where anyone should ever say, "This works well, let's change nothing".

Ultimately there is no way for any immigration system to prevent gangs from forming on the "other side" of the border. No matter how honest, decent or educated an immigrant may be, they are entering into a different culture with different people of different values.

They will naturally gravitate towards people with whom they share a common background and form micro-communities.

Where one of these micro-communities is more isolated from their host country than others - either isolated by social attitudes, or self-isolated - then criminal activity will begin to develop.

The point is that the formation of criminal gangs out of particular immigrant communities doesn't mean that immigrants from this region are particularly predisposed to crime, or that border policy has necessarily failed.

It means that immigration policy has failed to recognise where communities have gone into isolation and failed to enact policies to dissolve that isolation.

Communities get engaged in organised crime because they don't feel connected to wider society. If you feel respect for society and feel that you're "part" of society, then you won't sh1t on your own doorstep. That holds as true for Nigerian immigrants in West Dublin as it does for deprived Irish communities in inner-city Limerick and travellers across the country.

Is it just me, or am I seeing a lot more racist threads around AH of late?

On the OP, plenty of Irish gougers out there that I don't feel associated with. I'm not sure why you seem to want to associate others with examples of their worst elements.

People are just people.

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

all risks people take by voluntarily deciding to shoot unknown crap into their veins/noses, and/or partake in the trade thereof, but lets not let personal responsibility get in the way of things, lets get right on and legalise the crap so we dont have to feel bad when another 10 headless bodies are swinging of a bridge in Mexico, or an innocent Irishman gets shot on his holidays, no lets worry about our own gratification

alcohol is one of the main causes of societal misery, ill health, domestic violence, public order offences, birth defects, fatal car crashes, child neglect etc., where over half of those imbibing, do so in a harmful way...

And you want to add another problem into the mix...

It actually takes out a problem. It's been used and proved in Portugal.