The Reseeding/Stitching Discussion Thread.

Reggie. · 22-04-2018 09:35AM

visatorro wrote: »

Do you roll after? Presume you can't roll with your spikey roller?

No you use a Cambridge or flat roller. You either roll or throw out parlour washing. It's to guarentee soil contact for the seed. Also protects aganist slugs if they are around. I didn't roll the calf paddocks. Want to see the effect without rolling.

visatorro · 22-04-2018 09:41AM

Reggie. wrote: »

No you use a Cambridge or flat roller. You either roll or throw out parlour washing. It's to guarentee soil contact for the seed. Also protects aganist slugs if they are around. I didn't roll the calf paddocks. Want to see the effect without rolling.

Have a flat roller here.

Reggie. · 22-04-2018 10:20AM

visatorro wrote: »

Have a flat roller here.

You have to play it by ear really. Like yesterday the ground was too tender for rolling after I was finished as there was fairly wet patches. The lady wasn't going to put horses out till end of June so the grass should be well established at that time

charolais0153 · 22-04-2018 11:04AM

visatorro wrote: »

Have a flat roller here.

Id be afraid tge ridges would bury the seed to deep on a cambridge. Flat roller is better job

Reggie. · 22-04-2018 02:38PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Id be afraid tge ridges would bury the seed to deep on a cambridge. Flat roller is better job

Some lads reckon it's better for protection aganist the wind but each to thier own

K.G. · 22-04-2018 03:09PM

My first thing would be to throw a load of lime

Keepgrowing · 22-04-2018 03:30PM

Reggie. wrote: »

A seed bed just has to be soild and the ground exposed. If you till the ground like mad All you are left with at times is powdery soil which is poached easily when wet.

Most of my work is repairing patchy reseeds or reseeds after the first winter. Poweharrows leave the ground very vulnerable to holding water unless very well rolled numerous times. All the seed needs is soil contact and that's where the roller comes in.

Clover is usually sown at 2kg an acre. The clover itself is expensive compared to grass seed so not sure about that but seeding run of harrow is €25 and any preparation runs are €10

The old saying is "the smaller the seed the firmer the bed". You should be able cycle across a field that's reseeded.

TheDoc77 · 22-04-2018 05:03PM

I’ve a bit of ground taken on a 5 year lease and am thinking of stitching in some clover and possibly chicory as well, it’s been limed and pk levels are good, do u think it’d be worth doing? Will be grazed by sheep

wrangler · 22-04-2018 05:17PM

TheDoc77 wrote: »

I’ve a bit of ground taken on a 5 year lease and am thinking of stitching in some clover and possibly chicory as well, it’s been limed and pk levels are good, do u think it’d be worth doing? Will be grazed by sheep

We did it years ago, it came up well but the sheep sward was just too thick for it, I was block grazing grass early in that year and before i moved on the sheep I spread clover seed and walked it in with the sheep.

farisfat · 22-04-2018 05:52PM

wrangler wrote: »

We did it years ago, it came up well but the sheep sward was just too thick for it, I was block grazing grass early in that year and before i moved on the sheep I spread clover seed and walked it in with the sheep.

Would that work on cow ground with a hybrid grass seed.

wrangler · 22-04-2018 06:09PM

farisfat wrote: »

Would that work on cow ground with a hybrid grass seed.

You'd imagine it would...a cow sward is very open towards as sheep sward.

SuperTortoise · 22-04-2018 06:27PM

blue5000 wrote: »

It's not far off, might be a bit light, what speed do you drive at?

Went with setting 40 at 7-7.5km/h and it put out 3 bags to the acre.
I find the higher the setting the more accurate the app is, it recommended setting 20 at same speed for 1 bag of urea but found it put out closer to 1.5bags.
Bit of trial and error until i get used to it i guess, thanks for the help.

Reggie. · 22-04-2018 06:58PM

TheDoc77 wrote: »

I’ve a bit of ground taken on a 5 year lease and am thinking of stitching in some clover and possibly chicory as well, it’s been limed and pk levels are good, do u think it’d be worth doing? Will be grazed by sheep

Not sure if you'd have to share the sowing rate with the clover tho. Clover rate is 2kg an acre usually.

Reggie. · 22-04-2018 06:59PM

farisfat wrote: »

Would that work on cow ground with a hybrid grass seed.

Yeah it would. I stitched in 40 acres of it last year and it did well. Once the swarth is well open. It'll take about 6 months to fully establish tho

MeTheMan · 22-04-2018 07:16PM

What is the draw to clover?

charolais0153 · 22-04-2018 07:17PM

MeTheMan wrote: »

What is the draw to clover?

Draw?

I says · 22-04-2018 07:20PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Draw?

Gra

Buford T. Justice XIX · 22-04-2018 07:27PM

MeTheMan wrote: »

What is the draw to clover?

Clover swards have higher grass yields over the year and most of that during the Summer and Autumn. Slow to get going in Spring though and very open swards till the clover starts growing so more liable to poaching during wet weather.

charolais0153 · 22-04-2018 07:28PM

MeTheMan wrote: »

What is the draw to clover?

Higher protein,fixes nitrogen, animals like it

Dunedin · 22-04-2018 07:56PM

I have a field that I ploughed last August but weather broke and never got to do to sow it.

There are a few tuffs of grass and an dock here and there showing. Would it need spraying again?

Reggie. · 22-04-2018 08:37PM

Dunedin wrote: »

I have a field that I ploughed last August but weather broke and never got to do to sow it.

There are a few tuffs of grass and an dock here and there showing. Would it need spraying again?

I'd do it for the sake of weeds that may have blown in and you haven't noticed yet

Dunedin · 22-04-2018 08:55PM

Reggie. wrote: »

I'd do it for the sake of weeds that may have blown in and you haven't noticed yet

Would the 6 week post emergence spray not capture that.

If I spray now, I’ve another 7-10 days delay and I’m already going to be tight with this bit out of the grazing rotation

Reggie. · 22-04-2018 09:40PM

Dunedin wrote: »

Would the 6 week post emergence spray not capture that.

If I spray now, I’ve another 7-10 days delay and I’m already going to be tight with this bit out of the grazing rotation

Are you powerharrowing?

Dunedin · 22-04-2018 09:59PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Are you powerharrowing?

Rotavating. Have my own so will be doing myself

Reggie. · 22-04-2018 10:05PM

Dunedin wrote: »

Rotavating. Have my own so will be doing myself

Yeah probably better waiting till the 6 week so.

Justjens · 22-04-2018 10:05PM

My little set up, taken 2 years ago:

There was a savage clover sward in it, so hoping for a repeat.

Same paddock yesterday which was even worse than in '16, lost count of the number of runs, just needs a rolling:

Reggie. · 22-04-2018 10:07PM

Justjens wrote: »

My little set up, taken 2 years ago:

There was a savage clover sward in it, so hoping for a repeat.

Same paddock yesterday which was even worse than in '16, lost count of the number of runs, just needs a rolling:

Why are ya reseeding again after 2 years

Mtx · 23-04-2018 10:38AM

How is the seed being broadcast in that pic? And does a chain Harrow help bury the seed? I always thought a tine would..

Justjens · 23-04-2018 10:24PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Why are ya reseeding again after 2 years

Sacrifical paddock for the sucklers, looked good in early March with a nice pick but then weather went tits-up and I had to feed a few bales in a feeder.

Looks good now tho after a rolling this morning.

Reggie. · 23-04-2018 10:28PM

Justjens wrote: »

Sacrifical paddock for the sucklers, looked good in early March with a nice pick but then weather went tits-up and I had to feed a few bales in a feeder.

Looks good now tho after a rolling this morning.

It should get some nice light rain this week too

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