Lunchtime Live with Ciara Kelly [Mod warning post #1]

meeeeh · 10-04-2018 01:16PM

ButtersSuki wrote: »

I don't know why Kelly has any guests at all tbh. In her mind her opinion is fact, so she might as well do a 2 hour monologue talking her own particular brand of smug, ill-informed nonsense.

You should love her show then because that is exactly what Hook was doing. In fact the first half an hour used to be a monologue of illinformed nnonsense.

ButtersSuki · 10-04-2018 01:22PM

meeeeh wrote: »

You should love her show then because that is exactly what Hook was doing. In fact the first half an hour used to be a monologue of illinformed nnonsense.

Why do you assume I liked Hook's show? I listened to when it first started (way back in the day - early 00's) as it was different, but soon grew tired of it.

meeeeh · 10-04-2018 01:25PM

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Why do you assume I liked Hook's show? I listened to when it first started (way back in the day - early 00's) as it was different, but soon grew tired of it.

So you didn't like Hooks Show and you don't like her show and you still listen to the slot on NT. OK.

ButtersSuki · 10-04-2018 01:29PM

meeeeh wrote: »

So you didn't like Hooks Show and you don't like her show and you still listen to the slot on NT. OK.

There are times when I am forced to listen to the show - at work (if a colleague has call on the radio that day etc.), in public places, waiting rooms etc. I don't voluntarily listen to Hook or Kelly.

You make a lot of assumptions, don't you?

meeeeh · 10-04-2018 01:33PM

ButtersSuki wrote: »

There are times when I am forced to listen to the show - at work (if a colleague has call on the radio that day etc.), in public places, waiting rooms etc. I don't voluntarily listen to Hook or Kelly.

You make a lot of assumptions, don't you?

You comment a lot on shows you only listen to occasionally.

ButtersSuki · 10-04-2018 01:55PM

meeeeh wrote: »

You comment a lot on shows you only listen to occasionally.

I'm sorry, am I not allowed to comment on segments of shows I have actually heard?

ghostdancer · 10-04-2018 05:53PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

On another note her producer keeps repeating topics that have already been on that morning. It makes boring listening for people who have Newstalk on all the morning

this isn't unique to her show, Ivan will talk about the same thing the breakfast team does, or sometimes the breakfast team will talk about whatever Ivan was talking about the previous evening.
Matt Cooper on TodayFM talks about lots of the same topics as are on Newstalk too. it's basically just a case of picking things in the news that will get a reaction.

CatFromHue · 10-04-2018 06:29PM

It's not unique but when she joins Pat at the end of his show to say what they're going to be talking and Pat has talked about already in his show it sounds lazy.

donaloflynn · 12-04-2018 11:38AM

I'm a bit confused by the people complaining that the same topics are discussed on multiple shows. The clue is in the name folks - Newstalk. They talk about what's in the news, get it? There's only so much news in Ireland on any given day. It's not like the same guest is interviewed about the same topic on three consecutive shows.

Newstalk are well aware that the same topics get covered several times a day. That's why they have the Moncrieff Show in the middle of the day covering a more diverse range of topics including lesser-reported stories from around the world. The biggest scheduling blunder the management have ever made was reducing the length of Sean's show to give more time to George (and now Ciara) and Ivan!

donaloflynn · 12-04-2018 11:59AM

On Newstalk, Pat Kenny has the perfect voice for the role and it's easy see why Tom Dunne does a lot of voice-over work.

I wonder to they hate their voice when they hear it back like most people do?

I can't speak for Pat or Tom, but I'm pretty sure that they have no problem hearing recordings of their voice. First off they both have particularly good voices - something which is no small part of their success. You can be a great conversationalist and a confident speaker, but if people can't bear to listen to your voice you won't go far in radio. Secondly, radio presenters actively listen to their voice whenever they speak on the radio - it's impossible not to when you're wearing headphones!

I'm a radio presenter and occasional voiceover artist and have never had a problem listening to my voice. I've heard people say that it takes some getting used to. That may be the case for people who end up on the radio reluctantly or move into it from another profession, but if broadcasting is your passion it's second nature. You can't become a good radio presenter without listening to yourself. If you don't listen back to your programmes, you won't identify your mistakes or weaknesses.

Gwynplaine · 12-04-2018 12:13PM

"And all that kinda stuff".
Has anyone ever done a count on it?

ButtersSuki · 12-04-2018 12:27PM

donaloflynn wrote: »

I can't speak for Pat or Tom, but I'm pretty sure that they have no problem hearing recordings of their voice. First off they both have particularly good voices - something which is no small part of their success. You can be a great conversationalist and a confident speaker, but if people can't bear to listen to your voice you won't go far in radio. Secondly, radio presenters actively listen to their voice whenever they speak on the radio - it's impossible not to when you're wearing headphones!

I'm a radio presenter and occasional voiceover artist and have never had a problem listening to my voice. I've heard people say that it takes some getting used to. That may be the case for people who end up on the radio reluctantly or move into it from another profession, but if broadcasting is your passion it's second nature. You can't become a good radio presenter without listening to yourself. If you don't listen back to your programmes, you won't identify your mistakes or weaknesses.

Well I think it's fair to say Ciara Kelly certainly likes the sound of her own voice..........;)

ButtersSuki · 12-04-2018 12:30PM

Gwynplaine wrote: »

"And all that kinda stuff".
Has anyone ever done a count on it?

They had a segment last week whereby they talked about crutch words and phrases people use when stuck for something to say, when they're unprepared (how ironic!), nervous etc. and had someone from The Terry Prone School of Spin (The Communications Clinic) in to discuss same. They played a collection of Kelly introducing segments and she must have used "and all that kinda stuff" or "and all that good stuff" in 90% of them. It was like fingernails on a blackboard.......

Sleeper12 · 12-04-2018 12:46PM

I liked todays segment on the 8th posters. Where they should & shouldn't be allowed. None of that should be anywhere primary schools imo

anthonyjmaher · 13-04-2018 01:11PM

More boy/men bashing on the show today for a change. One little scumbag puts a message on a toilet door and this is somehow to be treated as a social issue. Just another vehicle for Kelly to demonize men, her favourite hobby. You'd find similarly crude stuff in the girl's toilets, but talking about such things would not serve her agenda.

ButtersSuki · 13-04-2018 01:19PM

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

More boy/men bashing on the show today for a change. One little scumbag puts a message on a toilet door and this is somehow to be treated as a social issue. Just another vehicle for Kelly to demonize men, her favourite hobby. You'd find similarly crude stuff in the girl's toilets, but talking about such things would not serve her agenda.

On Ciara Kelly's show? Surely you're mistaken? :pac:

Uncharted · 13-04-2018 01:22PM

Ciara is the self appointed cheerleader for the female agenda.

A modern day oestrogen charged Hannibal leading her troop of elephants across the Sugarloaf each morning to put all non conforming men to the sword...... "and all that good stuff"

Grolschevik · 13-04-2018 01:28PM

Yeah. Them women and their 51% of the population and stuff relating to their everyday issues.

Can't be doing with it.

Uncharted · 13-04-2018 01:30PM

Grolschevik wrote: »

Yeah. Them women and their 51% of the population and stuff relating to their everyday issues.

Can't be doing with it.

Correct. Not EVERY day.

quickbeam · 13-04-2018 01:31PM

Uncharted wrote: »

Ciara is the self appointed cheerleader for the female agenda.

A modern day oestrogen charged Hannibal leading her troop of elephants across the Sugarloaf each morning to put all non conforming men to the sword...... "and all that good stuff"

And eating men's livers with fava beans and chianti while she's at it :P

Grolschevik · 13-04-2018 01:43PM

Uncharted wrote: »

Correct. Not EVERY day.

Yeah. Her and her female stuff and the only women presenter on the station (Mon to Fri). Yeah. Where does she get off?

UsedToWait · 13-04-2018 01:47PM

Grolschevik wrote: »

Yeah. Her and her female stuff and the only women presenter on the station (Mon to Fri). Yeah. Where does she get off?

I couldn't care less about her gender.
It's her level of sanctimony that sent me racing for the off button.

I pity those who are her captive audience though..

Uncharted · 13-04-2018 01:49PM

quickbeam wrote: »

And eating men's livers with fava beans and chianti while she's at it :P

I take your point but wrong Hannibal...

quickbeam · 13-04-2018 01:50PM

Uncharted wrote: »

I take your point but wrong Hannibal...

Hence the smilie! :P

DickSwiveller · 13-04-2018 01:51PM

ButtersSuki wrote: »

On Ciara Kelly's show? Surely you're mistaken? :pac:

Couldn't believe it myself!

Uncharted · 13-04-2018 01:51PM

Grolschevik wrote: »

Yeah. Her and her female stuff and the only women presenter on the station (Mon to Fri). Yeah. Where does she get off?

Referring specifically to her own show.... not the entire stations staff.

Hence the thread title....

Uncharted · 13-04-2018 01:52PM

quickbeam wrote: »

Hence the smilie! :P

Apologies..... smiley overlooked.
My bad.

hotmail.com · 13-04-2018 01:57PM

It's interesting how some men perceive talking about these topics as anti all man when it's clearly not that. The anti man victim complex is just ridiculous at this stage.

i71jskz5xu42pb · 13-04-2018 01:58PM

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

Just another vehicle for Kelly to demonize men, her favourite hobby.

You've a real issue with her don't you. It seems to really colour your view of the show. I caught most of that segment over lunch, didn't hear any demonization men. Maybe you could cite something she said that demonized men?
If anything the male guest (a professional in the space) was harder.

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

You'd find similarly crude stuff in the girl's toilets, but talking about such things would not serve her agenda.

You spend a lot of time in the ladies toilets? Seen a rape list ever? I doubt it.

anthonyjmaher wrote: »

One little scumbag puts a message on a toilet door and this is somehow to be treated as a social issue.

One? Is that a fact or something you're just making up?

And frankly, while I don't believe these kids were actually planning a rape, the fact that they'd put a list like this together says there's something wrong with them. And it's not just them.

Allinall · 13-04-2018 02:03PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

It's interesting how some men perceive talking about these topics as anti all man when it's clearly not that. The anti man victim complex which is just ridiculous at this stage.

+1.

It’s as if they have preconceived notions of what’s going to be on the show, and adapt their posts to suit.

No critical thinking at all .

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