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Chemical weapon used on civilians in Syria + Airstrikes

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Can you put that in English?

    What's not in English


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭JenovaProject


    Gatling wrote: »
    That's wrong

    You're wrong


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    archer22 wrote: »
    Russia has Zircon and Sunburn ASM's ....Aircraft carriers are just 70 year old obsolete technology in today's world..going the same way as the Battleship has gone.

    Each are surrounded by numerous ships with modern anti missile defences.

    Obsolete? Which is why the Chinese are trying desperately to build their own, the UK are building two and every other major nation has at least one.

    Ita not actually the ships that count, its the airpower on them. You can't fight a modern war without airpower. And you need a platform to get them near the battle. So not obsolete at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    You're wrong

    Is that the best you have


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    The people huddled in Damascus are far too frightened of the inevitable holocaust if the US backed rebels get in. It’s not even hidden who these rebels are.

    No doubt Assad will be dragged through the streets though, by the islamists. As Ghaddaffi was. Maybe Hillary will raise a cackle.

    I don’t disagree though about the inevitability of Assad been overthrown.

    Given the level of US/Jihadhi propaganda the US (and allies) will eventually destroy Syria, as it has destroyed Iraq and Libya and will some day destroy Iran. Which is already, and absurdly, being blamed for this.

    On and on it will go until the Middle East and North Africa are total smouldering messes, and probably Europe too as the blowback will be immense.

    Iran ain't no fools,they have plenty of experience with the crooked US and they know damn well they'll be next.I think the countries in the middle East need to realise how the US is destroying the place for their own interests,band together and run them like the scroungey dogs they are


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭JenovaProject


    Gatling wrote: »
    Is that the best you have

    Lol....more than you have


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Nermal wrote: »
    No such thing as a moderate head-hacker.

    The 'moderate, hardline and extremist' labels are used to define various group agendas, beliefs, views, actions and objectives.

    There is a clear difference between groups.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    FFS. ISIS controlled a third of Syria when Assad was supposed to be fighting them. Instead he largely ignored them. It was left to the Kurds to do most of the fighting against ISIS with US help.

    Assad army was weak when the war started they were unable to fight off every group. Isis in 2013 had about 50,000 fighters. They had to pick their fights. In 2015 Assad army was losing the war Isis was about 20 miles outside Damascus and closing in for the finish. Assad requested help from Iran and Russia they joined the war to stop Isis and other Islamic groups from taking Damascus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,321 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Just throwing a question out there, why was there such a hullabaloo for a spy and his daughter getting poisoned, and yet the mass poisoning of innocents including children won't get a fraction of the reaction?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    FFS. ISIS controlled a third of Syria when Assad was supposed to be fighting them. Instead he largely ignored them. It was left to the Kurds to do most of the fighting against ISIS with US help.

    The Syrian Arab Army fought with great heroism against the Terrorist armies..the biggest problem for them was that every second Jihadist had an American TOW anti tank missile launcher.
    They and their Hezbollah allies held back the western and Saudi backed savages long enough for help to come.
    The streets of Europe are safer today thanks to their efforts.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Just throwing a question out there, why was there such a hullabaloo for a spy and his daughter getting poisoned, and yet the mass poisoning of innocents including children won't get a fraction of the reaction?

    Context.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    The brits and the US are bombing all over the Middle East. You are only encouraged to see Russian or Syrian bombings as problematic, so you do.
    The bombing of civilians in Mosul by NATO barely got a mention in the subservient media.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    John Bolton starts tomorrow as the national security advisor. We going to find out this week if Trump is going to listen to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The bombing of civilians in Mosul by NATO barely got a mention in the subservient media.

    That's a lie


    Wonder if we will wake up to see Assad eating cruise missiles for breakfast


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Gatling wrote: »
    That's a lie


    Wonder if we will wake up to see Assad eating cruise missiles for breakfast

    There is UN meeting tomorrow and US media is talking about this nonstop just as Russia predicted would happen. I think the Russians picked up chatter or got a source to tell them what was going to happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    There is UN meeting tomorrow and US media is talking about this nonstop just as Russia predicted would happen. I think the Russians picked up chatter or got a source to tell them what was going to happen.

    Lol

    Like the Moscow apartment bombings and preventing Genocide in Ukraine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Russia has the S400 system operational now in Syria...Yankees better be careful or their aircraft will be ending like that Zionist one a few weeks back.

    Noticed them chaps haven't bothered Syria since :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Just throwing a question out there, why was there such a hullabaloo for a spy and his daughter getting poisoned, and yet the mass poisoning of innocents including children won't get a fraction of the reaction?

    watch the news tomorrow, there will be a large reaction.

    There seems to be a sequence of events lately, which could be leading up to something large.

    'Spy' and daughter poisoned, -> mass expulsion of Russian diplomats from Western countries.

    North Korea announces they are interested in talks re nuclear disarmament, and will meet with an American president.

    Suddenly, reports of a chemical attack in Syria, and an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council to discuss the alleged chemical attack.

    Meanwhile, Israeli forces use tear gas on Palestinian protesters at the border, plus kill 17+ protesters.

    The pot is continually being stirred.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    archer22 wrote: »
    Russia has the S400 system operational now in Syria...Yankees better be careful or their aircraft will be ending like that Zionist one a few weeks back.

    Noticed them chaps haven't bothered Syria since :pac:

    And have done for nearly 4 years and remind us what was the last aircraft russia shotdown oh yeah flight MH17 over Ukraine ......

    How come when russia lost 400 men very recently in Syria when they attacked Kurds did they not manage to shoot down any aircraft attacking them....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Doltanian wrote: »
    What is the difference if they are killed by Chemical Weapons? there are thousands being bombed, shot and maimed every single day. The weapon of choice makes no difference. Assad is right to defend his country and if the US attempts a strike on Syria then Putin could retaliate against the US with a hypersonic missile strike. We are moving closer than ever to the Third World War and large parts of the world are at war already.

    I agree if the Americans try for regime change is going to be WW3. Russia is invested now to keep Assad in power. Any missile kills Russian troops they will strike back. Trump, I hope is smart enough to not fall for it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Gatling wrote: »
    And have done for nearly 4 years and remind us what was the last aircraft russia shotdown oh yeah flight MH17 over Ukraine ......

    Whats your Aunt being doing!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    Threads like these always seemed to get dragged down to the maturity level of a spotty faced teenager with a Che Chevara poster on their wall and who replies to everything with "whatabout..."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    I agree if the Americans try for regime change is going to be WW3. Russia is invested now to keep Assad in power. Any missile kills Russian troops they will strike back. Trump, I hope is smart enough to not fall for it?

    Spoken like a Russian propagandist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Spoken like a Russian propagandist.

    Sure every other thread ww3 is coming ,not a great grasp of global politics either in the threads,
    Russia has nukes lads quick hide


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Threads like these always seemed to get dragged down to the maturity level of a spotty faced teenager with a Che Chevara poster on their wall and who replies to everything with "whatabout..."
    Spoken like a Russian propagandist.

    Oh the irony :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    archer22 wrote: »
    Russia has the S400 system operational now in Syria...Yankees better be careful or their aircraft will be ending like that Zionist one a few weeks back.

    Noticed them chaps haven't bothered Syria since :pac:

    Russia has already given the warning.

    13th of March

    Valery Gerasimov, head of Russia’s General Staff, said Moscow had information that rebels in the enclave of eastern Ghouta were planning to fake a chemical weapons attack against civilians and blame it on the Syrian army.

    He said the United States intended to use the fake attack as a pretext to bomb the government quarter in nearby Damascus where he said Russian military advisers, Russian military police and Russian ceasefire monitors were based.

    In the event of a threat to the lives of our servicemen, Russia’s armed forces will take retaliatory measures against the missiles and launchers used,” Gerasimov said in a statement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Spoken like a Russian propagandist.

    Just on CNN now Russia has warned the US of serious consequences if they attack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Just on CNN now Russia has warned the US of serious consequences if they attack.

    It's inevitable Russia wants to wrap up the war in Syria...America wants to restart it.

    Russian patience won't last much longer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Just on CNN now Russia has warned the US of serious consequences if they attack.

    Not a lot russia could do when you think about it ,
    Didn't do a thing when they lost 400 russian men did they why not exactly oh is it to do with picking a fight with an actual superpower isn't good for you.

    russia has been making threats for years and nothing at best they will run to the UN to demand protection


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    the arms industry needs a war, profits are beginning to slump


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Gatling wrote: »
    Sure every other thread ww3 is coming ,not a great grasp of global politics either in the threads,
    Russia has nukes lads quick hide

    Corporate Media is doing wall to wall coverage of Syrian chemical attack to get Trump to act. The Russians said this will happen. This just like the buildup to the Iraqi war information warfare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭CZ 453


    Russian patience. That's a laugh. Antagonists if ever I saw them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Corporate Media is doing wall to wall coverage of Syrian chemical attack to get Trump to act. The Russians said this will happen. This just like the buildup to the Iraqi war information warfare.

    But russia will do what exactly .


    Remember trump suprised oul vladi last time we seen a chemical weapon attack .
    Might be time to make a bigger statement


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    Assad army was weak when the war started they were unable to fight off every group. Isis in 2013 had about 50,000 fighters. They had to pick their fights. In 2015 Assad army was losing the war Isis was about 20 miles outside Damascus and closing in for the finish. Assad requested help from Iran and Russia they joined the war to stop Isis and other Islamic groups from taking Damascus.

    Your posts are all over the place.

    ISIS caliphate was largely in the east of the country. Go look it up if you don't believe me. Assad had abandoned the east and the people to their own fate with ISIS. Thankfully the Americans with Kurdish help rolled them back. Left to the Syrians and Russians they would still be in control of a third and maybe more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Trade war with China and now possible shooting war with Russia...America is heading rapidly into the rubbish bin of history.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Gatling wrote: »
    Not a lot russia could do when you think about it ,
    Didn't do a thing when they lost 400 russian men did they why not exactly oh is it to do with picking a fight with an actual superpower isn't good for you.

    russia has been making threats for years and nothing at best they will run to the UN to demand protection

    I think its game on now the corporate media is pushing the case for war. I told you weeks ago this was a plan the chemical attack in the UK is part of this plan to take out Assad.

    We are watching it unfold now on TV.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    the arms industry needs a war, profits are beginning to slump

    The hard left also need a war. They haven't protested against America enough recently.

    They haven't protested against Assad or Putin at all. They never do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    Russia has already given the warning.

    13th of March

    Valery Gerasimov, head of Russia’s General Staff, said Moscow had information that rebels in the enclave of eastern Ghouta were planning to fake a chemical weapons attack against civilians and blame it on the Syrian army.

    He said the United States intended to use the fake attack as a pretext to bomb the government quarter in nearby Damascus where he said Russian military advisers, Russian military police and Russian ceasefire monitors were based.

    In the event of a threat to the lives of our servicemen, Russia’s armed forces will take retaliatory measures against the missiles and launchers used,” Gerasimov said in a statement.

    Does Russia have a crystal ball? How do they know that they are going to be hit with missiles?

    They only way they would know is because it is them doing the attacking.

    If anyone is staging false flag attacks it is Vlad. Would love to see how Russia would retaliate considering Russian equipment and crews are a load of crap.

    Look at how many planes crashed when that hulk of a so-called carrier visited the Med.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    archer22 wrote: »
    Trade war with China and now possible shooting war with Russia...America is heading rapidly into the rubbish bin of history.

    At least china Vs America is a super power war ,

    Shooting match with russia never going to happen otherwise it would have happened decades ago .
    russia are nothing but a regional power sliding down the global power list


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    archer22 wrote: »
    Trade war with China and now possible shooting war with Russia...America is heading rapidly into the rubbish bin of history.

    I just hope Trump doesn't go nuts and listen to John Bolton?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    Russia has already given the warning.

    13th of March

    Valery Gerasimov, head of Russia’s General Staff, said Moscow had information that rebels in the enclave of eastern Ghouta were planning to fake a chemical weapons attack against civilians and blame it on the Syrian army.

    He said the United States intended to use the fake attack as a pretext to bomb the government quarter in nearby Damascus where he said Russian military advisers, Russian military police and Russian ceasefire monitors were based.

    In the event of a threat to the lives of our servicemen, Russia’s armed forces will take retaliatory measures against the missiles and launchers used,” Gerasimov said in a statement.

    Yes what source could be more reliable than a Russian General? They are well known for being authentic voices of truth! Deny everything and blame everyone but themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Trump needs to be skeptical of his intelligence services. Bush and Obama were hoodwinked into pointless wars by their enemies within. Trump needs to be the guy that says NO. Set the precedent for the next president. Really Make America Great Again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    I just hope Trump doesn't go nuts and listen to John Bolton?

    Trump is only a useful idiot like Bush..he will do whatever he is instructed to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    I just hope Trump doesn't go nuts and listen to John Bolton?

    By going nuts you mean punishing Assad and the Russians?

    At least he has balls unlike the Europeans who are scared of their own shadows.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    The Putin bots are busy tonight!

    Probably wasted on here though. Its US public opinion they need to change!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,827 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    By going nuts you mean punishing Assad and the Russians?

    At least he has balls unlike the Europeans who are scared of their own shadows.


    He’s a 5 times draft dodger.wheres the balls in that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    By going nuts you mean punishing Assad and the Russians?

    At least he has balls unlike the Europeans who are scared of their own shadows.

    America has never seen real war before...only wave the boys off and give them a big parade when they come home.

    It won't be like that the next time...it will hit Americans hardest..they are not used to it, Russians are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    Gatling wrote: »
    At least china Vs America is a super power war ,

    Shooting match with russia never going to happen otherwise it would have happened decades ago .
    russia are nothing but a regional power sliding down the global power list

    Syria sadly is Putin's attempt at power projection. Its been a disaster for all concerned. On average Russian hardware is hopelessly out dated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    The hard left also need a war. They haven't protested against America enough recently.

    They haven't protested against Assad or Putin at all. They never do.

    sorry, I dont understand what you mean. The 'left' dont have a vested interest in the arms industry, as far as I know.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    archer22 wrote: »
    America has never seen real war before...only wave the boys off and give them a big parade when they come home.

    It won't be like that the next time...it will hit Americans hardest..they are not used to it, Russians are.

    Gimme a break.

    More of the "my missile is bigger than your missile" nonsense. Your handlers are going to be very dissappointed with your efforts tonight!


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