Chemical weapon used on civilians in Syria + Airstrikes

RandomName2

SeanW wrote: »

But, but, I though Trump was Vladimir Putin's puppet? I mean, the American mainstream media assured, especially it's late night comedians, asserted as absolute fact that (among other things) Trump was Putin's "c**k holster".

Trump was Putin's preferred winner in the US presidential election, but beyond that they are rivals, pure and simple.

Elmer Blooker

Gatling wrote: »

By sputnik news and pro asaad bloggers claiming to be renowned independent journalists

A simple question. Why will no journalist go anywhere near territory held by the jihadists? Well?

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

Every other post your claiming false flag ,false false false false while repeateding misinformation despite repeatedly called out for it .
Deflection and lies
And some say the Troll factory doesn't exist

Russia told us weeks ago there were preparations underway for a false flag, white helmets would be involved and US press would talk about as a major event and Trump would be forced to act. Russia was trying to stop this but there no sensible players anymore we are truly ****ed. I just hope Trump is not foolish to authorise regime change and strike Syria.

Gringo180

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Russia told us weeks ago there were preparations underway for a false flag, white helmets would be involved and US press would talk about as a major event and Trump would be forced to act. Russia was trying to stop this but there no sensible players anymore we are truly ****ed. I just hope Trump is not foolish to authorise regime change and strike Syria.

****ing Americans dont give a **** because it will mostly be Europe again that will get hit with the refugee crisis if they do strike. Russia might strike back and this could lead to world war 3. People just dont realise how close we are to it.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Russia told us weeks ago there were preparations underway for a false flag,

After they released a chemical nerve agent to try assinate two of its citizens in the UK .
They used chemical weapons against its own civilians living in the UK not once but twice .

archer22

This old "chemical weapons attack" stuff is just boring a predictable now.

Terrorists losing battle and desperate for help, what happens next? ..Oh yeah of course = "Hey look chemical attack!!...

yaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnn

mulbot

Gatling wrote: »

After they released a chemical nerve agent to try assinate two of its citizens in the UK .
They used chemical weapons against its own civilians living in the UK not once but twice .

What?? When did this happen? Haven't seen anything that supports this claim.

Elmer Blooker

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

This is a full-on attack to isolate Russia globally the fact some of you people don't see this is truly puzzling to me. I don't know why some humans don't see the glaringly obvious?

Millions of Germans believed Hitler and Goebbels propaganda, now people believe jihadist propaganda.
Conclusion: People are easily led.

Gatling

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

Millions of Germans believed Hitler
People are easily led.

Heil vlidi

Shurimgreat

Anyone know when the anti war movement here plan to organise a protest against Syrian/Russian bombing?

Or is it only when the US becomes involved they get interested?

dublinman1990

I looked at a news report from Channel 4. Kids being harmed in a attack like this is abhorrent. Sarin gas was being dropped down from planes which was used to kill or injure them along with adults yesterday. The pictures of the kids looked awful. And it was done with no reason to do it whatsoever. I've run out of other relevant words to say about these attacks other to say that it is disgusting.

Barry Badrinath

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

This an area the Syrian army is fighting Jaish al-Islam ( Al Qaeda in Syria) surprise they are there too. I posted videos and photographs of a chemical lab belonging to this group in Syria last month.

Just to be pedantic.

Jaysh al-Islam is the 'army of Islam'. They are not the Syrian branch of Al-Qaeda. They are a coalition group of 200+ Islamist factions with varying allegiances and external backers.

Jaysh al-Islam was previously known as Liwa al-Islam, they were involved in combined operations with Al-Nusra Front in early days of the civil war.

Jaysh al-Islam was formed with the intention to curb Al-Nusra's (Al-Qaeda's) influence in Syria. You could say at a stretch Jaysh al-Islam is a former ally of Al-Nusra Front but they are most certainly NOT the same entity.

I think you mean Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham, formerly Jabhat Fatah al-Sham, formerly Al-Nusra Front, which started out as the Syrian branch of Al-Qaeda.

In fact, Jaysh al-Islam is a rival group of Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (Al-Nusra).

Shurimgreat

As for Putin he couldn't care less if everyone in Syria was gassed. He's in the same bracket as Assad.

archer22

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Anyone know when the anti war movement here plan to organise a protest against Syrian/Russian bombing?

Or is it only when the US becomes involved they get interested?

Probably just seems that way....because the US is always involved.

The US is like a bluebottle always on the lookout for something in a weakened condition to lay its eggs on.

Gatling

Shurimgreat wrote: »

As for Putin he couldn't care less if everyone in Syria was gassed. He's in the same bracket as Assad.

If you go by several posters who repeatedly pop up on these threads assad and puntin can never do wrong and if you don't support assputin then you are a terrorist and supporter of terrorists ,
Even when a UN aid convoy was attacked with airstrikes it was denied repeatedly claiming false flags.

They would rather threads be locked and absolutely zero discussion of putin or assad takes place ,
You would think in Ireland 2018 you could have a discussion without censorship

Shurimgreat

archer22 wrote: »

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Probably just seems that way....because the US is always involved.

The US is like a bluebottle always on the lookout for something in a weakened condition to lay its eggs on.

Well who the fcuk else is going to step up? The Germans? French? Italians?

Thats right, no-one. The Europeans couldn't even end the Yugoslav Civil War in their own back yard. They are scared sh*tless of any kind of military action.
As for the UN we know their record.

Chrongen

archer22 wrote: »

I find it extremely odd that the western media and politicians won't even entertain the idea that the desperate Terrorists facing certain defeat in Ghouta might be responsible for this (if it's even real or just faked).

Oh I suppose it must be generally accepted by the western media and politicos that Terrorists even desperate ones always behave like gentlemen.:)

When the US realised they couldn't win in Vietnam they deployed squadron after squadron after squadron of B52 bombers and dumped enough bombs on the people that could have blown a hole in the Moon. In fact they dropped more bombs on those people than had been dropped in the ENTIRETY of the Second World War.

Millions were killed.

So, to answer the question, why would US backed forces torch the pub when they've been kicked out? Simple. It's a fit of defeatist bitchiness and they've done it before.

The US were bombed out of Lebanon in the 80's and what did they do in their epitome of sore-loser-ness? They laid a destroyer north east of Cyprus and shelled Beirut just to be the bitches that they are.

The mantra is "if you get the better of us we're just going to be a bunch of sneaky cnuts anyway"

The US was sanctioned with paying war reparations to Vietnam after attacking that country the same way that Germany was sanctioned with paying war reparations after WW1 and WW2. The Americans haven't paid a dime to Vietnam. They'd rather take a trillion dollars and dump it in the sea than admit that they are wrong,

Shurimgreat

Gatling wrote: »

Nothing will happen ,we will get calls for s full UN investigation which will be blocked by russia who will repeatedly say there is no chemical weapons in Syria and it's all fake news to make russia look bad ,
meanwhile posters will come in to remind us that America did this and America did that .

That's about right. Genocidal maniacs like Assad benefit hugely from apathy and division in the rest of the world. He knows he can gas people to his hearts content and with many friends and admirers in the west the will just isn't there.

You can almost sense the glee from some people at what Assad is doing and how the rest of the world is too divided to react.

Gringo180

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Germans thought they were the good guys until the concentration camps became common knowledge. Either way its a moot point if they thought they were the good guys or not.
Putting the US in the same camp as Nazi Germany is stupid to say the least.

Says the man who puts Putin in the same camp as Assad. Tony Blair and George Bush killed more civilians than both of them. :pac:

Barry Badrinath

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Well who the fcuk else is going to step up? The Germans? French? Italians?

Thats right, no-one. The Europeans couldn't even end the Yugoslav Civil War in their own back yard. They are scared sh*tless of any kind of military action.
As for the UN we know their record.

France has a number of troops stationed in northern Syria and have done so for a few years.

France, Netherlands and the UK have conducted airstrikes in Syria as part of the U.S-led Combined Joint Task Force, Operation Inherent Resolve.

Cheerful Spring

Barry Badrinath wrote: »

Just to be pedantic.

Jaysh al-Islam is the 'army of Islam'. They are not the Syrian branch of Al-Qaeda. They are a coalition group of 200+ Islamist factions with varying allegiances and external backers.

Jaysh al-Islam was previously known as Liwa al-Islam, they were involved in combined operations with Al-Nusra Front in early days of the civil war.

Jaysh al-Islam was formed with the intention to curb Al-Nusra's (Al-Qaeda's) influence in Syria. You could say at a stretch Jaysh al-Islam is a former ally of Al-Nusra Front but they are most certainly NOT the same entity.

I think you mean Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham, formerly Jabhat Fatah al-Sham, formerly Al-Nusra Front, which started out as the Syrian branch of Al-Qaeda.

In fact, Jaysh al-Islam is a rival group of Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (Al-Nusra).

Mohammed Alloush the leader called the AL Nusra front his brothers. They are very same as Al Qaeda an Islamic Salafist movement.

Shurimgreat

Assad, Gadaffi, Milosevic and Saddam. All beloved poster boys of the Irish hard left.
They still lament the passing of Saddam and Gadaffi!

Gringo180

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Assad, Gadaffi, Milosevic and Saddam. All beloved poster boys of the Irish hard left.
They still lament the passing of Saddam and Gadaffi!

All but one put in charge by the West. Strange that.

Gatling

Gringo180 wrote: »

All but one put in charge by the West. Strange that.

And all were supplied arms by Moscow

Shurimgreat

Barry Badrinath wrote: »

France has a number of troops stationed in northern Syria and have done so for a few years.

France, Netherlands and the UK have conducted airstrikes in Syria as part of the U.S-led Combined Joint Task Force, Operation Inherent Resolve.

But they don't lead from the front. UK Labour scuppered previous bombing in 2013. Something like 400,000 people have died since. Assad knows the game. Just enough gas to kill many people but not enough to trigger a massive response. The will isnt there in places like Berlin, Paris or London.

Gringo180

Gatling wrote: »

And all were supplied arms by Moscow

Was it gas from Moscow that helped Saddam gas 10 thousand Kurds?

Gatling

Gringo180 wrote: »

Was it gas from Moscow that helped Saddam gas 10 thousand Kurds?

The gas was Iraqi was it and delivered using russian missles

Cheerful Spring

Shurimgreat wrote: »

Assad, Gadaffi, Milosevic and Saddam. All beloved poster boys of the Irish hard left.
They still lament the passing of Saddam and Gadaffi!

Majority of Iraq cities are in ruins and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens got murdered, because of the Iraq Invasion. I think we ignore the stuff we don't see. If Ireland cities were wrecked like that and Irish people were dying like that we have a different perception of the right and wrongs.

Shurimgreat

The only thing stopping Assad gassing tens of thousands in Syria is the threat of intervention from one country alone, America.

Gringo180

Gatling wrote: »

The gas was Iraqi was it and delivered using russian missles

No no no. Donald Rumsfeld made sure Saddam got all the gas he needed for there war with Iran. Its in writing.