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Chemical weapon used on civilians in Syria + Airstrikes

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    #182
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Strange how Trump never hurled insults and threats at Netanyahu when he had hundreds of unarmed protesters shot recently...western media and politicians were very quiet about it also
    .Even though it was very real and no doubts about it.


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    #183
    Shurimgreat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Majority of Iraq cities are in ruins and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens got murdered, because of the Iraq Invasion. I think we ignore the stuff we don't see. If Ireland cities were wrecked like that and Irish people were dying like that we have a different perception of the right and wrongs.

    Whereas Saddam was a saint.


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    #184
    Shurimgreat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    archer22 wrote: »
    Strange how Trump never hurled insults and threats at Netanyahu when he had hundreds of unarmed protesters shot recently...western media and politicians were very quiet about it also
    .Even though it was very real and no doubts about it.

    How many people have Israel killed and how many has Assad killed in the last 7 years?


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    #185
    Gringo180
    Registered Users Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    Whereas Saddam was a saint.

    I dont recall him saying that. If your going to remove a murdering tyrant make sure the replacement is not ten times worse. Its like going to the doctors with the common cold and the doctors intervention is to put you on chemotherapy. If your intervention is going to make things worse you shouldnt really do it. But yet America, Britain, France etc are still making the same mistakes.


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    #186
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    How many people have Israel killed and how many has Assad killed in the last 7 years?

    Well Israel killed around 500 Palestinian children mostly with Phosphorous a few years ago...is Phosphorous not a chemical?


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    #187
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    archer22 wrote: »
    Well Israel killed around 500 Palestinian children mostly with Phosphorous a few years ago...is Phosphorous not a chemical?

    Start another thread with your claims
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    #188
    Shurimgreat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    No-one does whataboutery better than the usual American haters and hard left.

    Assad gasses his own people, the usual response is "whatabout when America, Israel, Uk, British Empire, Napolean, the Normans, Roman Empire, etc did such and such".

    Masters of diversion and whataboutery.


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    #189
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Gatling wrote: »
    Start another thread with your claims

    Excuse me sonny, are you a moderator :rolleyes:


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    #190
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    archer22 wrote: »
    Excuse me sonny, are you a moderator :rolleyes:

    No but yeah go start a thread about phosphorus
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    #191
    Gringo180
    Registered Users Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    archer22 wrote: »
    Well Israel killed around 500 Palestinian children mostly with Phosphorous a few years ago...is Phosphorous not a chemical?

    White Phosphorous when inhaled cooks you from the inside out. Its a favourite of the only democracy in the middle east, that true beacon of morality they call Israel.


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    #192
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    Whereas Saddam was a saint.

    Saddam stopped all his hostile acts in the 90's there was no reason to go attack Iraq. Saddam was not massacring hundreds of thousands of people, also. Some people claim millions of people died since 2003. ISIS exist only because of Western Intervention.


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    #193
    Shurimgreat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    Gatling wrote: »
    No but yeah go start a thread about phosphorus

    Agreed. Another attempt to derail and divert. They will talk about everything but Assad's crimes.


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    #194
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    The only thing stopping Assad gassing tens of thousands in Syria is the threat of intervention from one country alone, America.

    See you just highlighted the reason Assad would not be using chemical weapons.


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    #195
    Shurimgreat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Saddam stopped all his hostile acts in the 90's there was no reason to go attack Iraq. Saddam was not massacring hundreds of thousands of people, also. Some people claim millions of people died since 2003. ISIS exist only because of Western Intervention.

    ISIS were a tiny group until Assad decided to give them a helping hand by releasing their leaders and not bothering to fight them until the west had to intervene.


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    #196
    Shurimgreat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    See you just highlighted the reason Assad would not be using chemical weapons.

    Conspiracy forum that way >>

    Bring your tin foil hat with you.


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    #197
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    Agreed. Another attempt to derail and divert. They will talk about everything but Assad's crimes.

    It was relevant to Trump and the west's hypocrisy and double standards in the middle east.


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    #198
    Shurimgreat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    archer22 wrote: »
    It was relevant to Trump and the west's hypocrisy and double standards in the middle east.

    Happened 30 years ago so no relevance to the current situation. And certainly well before Trumps time.
    So ya, more whataboutery.


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    #199
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    Conspiracy forum that way >>

    Bring your tin foil hat with you.

    Another of your attempts to divert and belittle.


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    #200
    Elmer Blooker
    Registered Users Posts: 6,038 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    Conspiracy forum that way >>

    Bring your tin foil hat with you.
    :pac:
    ISIS were a tiny group until Assad decided to give them a helping hand by releasing their leaders and not bothering to fight them until the west had to intervene.


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    #201
    Shurimgreat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    archer22 wrote: »
    Another of your attempts to divert and belittle.

    Nope just trying to stop people derailing the thread and also trying to keep it relevant.

    As a reminder the thread topic is about Asssd gasing his own people. Maybe we could discuss that?


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    #202
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    Happened 30 years ago so no relevance to the current situation. And certainly well before Trumps time.
    So ya, more whataboutery.

    "30 years ago" ehh....I could have sworn the protesters were shot last week!!


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    #203
    archer22
    Registered Users Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    Nope just trying to stop people derailing the thread and also trying to keep it relevant.

    As a reminder the thread topic is about Asssd gasing his own people. Maybe we could discuss that?

    Another guy after appointing himself Moderator....Wow!!


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    #204
    Shurimgreat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    archer22 wrote: »
    "30 years ago" ehh....I could have sworn the protesters were shot last week!!

    We were talking about chemical weapons used by Saddam againat the kurds.

    Not sure of the whataboutery you were referring to? Its hard to keep track of all the whataboutery.


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    #205
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Shurimgreat wrote: »
    Conspiracy forum that way >>

    Bring your tin foil hat with you.

    I think the difference between me and you is I look at all the evidence. While people like you will always believe the mainstream narrative. Anyone who doesn't follow your line of thinking is a conspiracy theorist. This is old age trick tactic politicians use to stop people asking questions. Some of the people just don't believe the Western media is incapable of lying and their government have always their best interests in mind when they do things. This is frankly a crock of ****.


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    #206
    Shurimgreat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    Rather than replying individually to the Assad fanboys and sycophants I will reply more generally.

    Assad has a history of gassing his people. Repeated UN investigations have found this to be the case.
    While they are not perfect I will believe them over an Assad fan boy hiding behind his computer somewhere in Ireland.


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    #207
    backspin.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    Was Assad not winning the war, why would he then bring international outrage upon himself with the use of chemical weapons?

    Maybe Trumps announcement that he intended to pull the troops out had something to do with it? Dark forces at play.


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    #208
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    archer22 wrote: »
    "..I could have sworn the protesters were shot last week!!

    There you go a gringo posted thread on the protest

    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057857599/1
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    #209
    ArchXStanton
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    ****ing Americans dont give a **** because it will mostly be Europe again that will get hit with the refugee crisis if they do strike. Russia might strike back and this could lead to world war 3. People just dont realise how close we are to it.

    Russia have said there will be grave consequences if a strike on Syria occurs,about time the gloves came off its the only language the US terrorists understand,oh and puppet boy Macron has said if there was a chemical attack they would strike Syria aswell..he needs a slap across the tits


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    #210
    Barry Badrinath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Mohammed Alloush the leader called the AL Nusra front his brothers. They are very same as Al Qaeda an Islamic Salafist movement.

    They are both Sunni Islamists groups but thats it.....sure Ahrar al-Sham is a Sunni Islamist group...are they Al-Nusra too? No.

    Jaish al-Islam is not 'Al-Qaeda in Syria'.

    The group which started off as 'Al-Qaeda in Syria' is now Hayat Tahrir al-Sham.

    Jaish al-Islam has fought against Hayat Tahrir al-Sham...aka...Al-Nusra...aka...Al-Qaeda in Syria.

    They are seperate forces with similar revolutionary objectives but Jaish al-Islam is more moderate than Hayat Tahrir al-Sham. Whats worse is Hayat Tahrir al-Sham officially denied being part of Al-Qaeda. This has caused a huge level of infighting among the coalition group.

    Ultimately...Jaysh al-Islam is a completely seperate group to Al-Qaeda.


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    #211
    Shurimgreat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,133 ✭✭✭Shurimgreat


    The Syrian war is now 7 years old with 500,000 dead. Its likely to last another 4-5 years with another couple hundred thousand dying.

    Its the most shameful event of our era and the international community have done damn all to bring it to an end.

    Russia's veto at the UN is probably the main reason it has not been brought to an end and there has been so much bloodshed.

    History and historians will treat harshly Putin, Assad and all those including posters on here who took their side.


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