Chemical weapon used on civilians in Syria + Airstrikes

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

The only reason any side would use chemical weapons is to drag in Western powers to attack Assad. Assad has won the war. Trump decision to pull out of Syria annoyed the military-industrial complex and the deep state elite and they have used their influence to stage this false flag.

Lizard people only gets one so far

Can you actually back any of that up or are you using conspiracies against asaad to allow the on going and repeated use of chemical weapons against civilians in Syria

JenovaProject

Gatling wrote: »

So let's hear your opinion.

Or do you not do opinions

My opinion is it is totally unbelievable that Assad would carry out a chemical attack when he has the war already won....
Note I'm only talking about this particular instance.

Chrongen

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

And we have liftoff!

Don't feed

Gatling

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

And Putinbots in 3...2...1...

Never takes long

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

Lizard people only gets one so far

Can you actually back any of that up or are you using conspiracies against asaad to allow the on going and repeated use of chemical weapons against civilians in Syria

Saudi Arabia just purchased 600 billion of new toys for their military. It all about money and power. If Trump pulls out his handing back the Syrian oil. US forces are stationed in an area rich in oil reserves.

Commonsense logical why would Assad want his army bombed and lose men he needs badly to finish this war.

Chrongen

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Every time Assad seems to be winning he starts using chemical weapons. It’s pretty stupid really.

Tessy May and BoJo must be delighted that this takes attention off their Salisbury farce that was supposed to take attention away from their Brexit farce.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Saudi Arabia just purchased 600 billion of new toys for their military.

And what ,if russia sold them the same not that they have much comparable .

What go russia!

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

And what ,if russia sold them the same not that they have much comparable .

What go russia!

You not watching you have to see the other side. When Trump declared he was going to pull out of Syria. The US media went ballistic and said Trump is handing Syria back to Iran and Russia. Trump is just a puppet. For decades the corporations, military industrial complex and the deep state ( the rich guys elected by nobody) run things. They have enormous influence behind the scenes to stage-manage world events to their liking.

Chrongen

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

As opposed to what - leave the country to it's own devices and end up with Libya 2.0 or worse?

An Assad victory is the quickest way to stability and peace if we are being entirely realistic.

Not a fan of Russia in general but anyone who thinks a Russian withdrawal is the answer to Syria's problems is deluded.

At the very, very least people should be questioning the narrative of what's happening and being reported in Syria.

It is not a simple case of the 'good guys' fighting the big bad butcher (and never was but that's how it's being pushed in some media).

The Syrian people worship the Russian servicemen who have been defending them from the ISIS head choppers and organ eaters. You won't read that in WaPo however.

Chrongen

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Can anyone give a coherent reason why Assad always seems to use chemical weapons when the area is just about to fall to his control.

Seriously what would he possibly have to gain from using chemical weapons when the war is all but won??

Don't expect a logical answer that elucidates a plausible reason, just some crap that "he's a madman and a sicko who gets a kick out of gassing toddlers"

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

You not watching you have to see the other side. When Trump declared he was going to pull out of Syria. The US media went ballistic

No they didn't .

He said they would pull out and the pentagon said not anytime soon.


But lets not forget about the 70 dead and 500 + injured in the latest chemical weapons attack in Syria

Cheerful Spring

Chrongen wrote: »

Tessy May and BoJo must be delighted that this takes attention off their Salisbury farce that was supposed to take attention away from their Brexit farce.

Skipral and his daughter are recovering now and it widely reported the relatives of the Skiprals were refused entry to the UK. The UK government does want anyone to know the truth.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Skipral and his daughter are recovering now and it widely reported the relatives of the Skiprals were refused entry to the UK. The UK government does want anyone to know the truth.

Viktoria skipal was refused a visa Being she's running her own misinformation program it was pretty much expected

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

No they didn't .

He said they would pull out and the pentagon said not anytime soon.


But lets not forget about the 70 dead and 500 + injured in the latest chemical weapons attack in Syria

The decision is done Trump is pulling out. Russia saw this coming weeks ago there would be a false flag event in this region.

mulbot

Gatling wrote: »

Viktoria skipal was refused a visa Being she's running her own misinformation truth program it was pretty much expected

.........

Cheerful Spring

Gatling wrote: »

Viktoria skipal was refused a visa Being she's running her own misinformation program it was pretty much expected

She doesn't believe the UK version of events, so she denied a visa to visit? Is the UK North Korea?

Chrongen

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

Assad is a tyrant who wants to cling onto power at all costs, if this means bombing the population and turning the country into something that looks like Dresden in 1945, so be it. The Russians are only to happy to go along with that, because they also have zero concerns for the population as long as they get the desired outcome.
If I had the choice of being oppressed by US backed forces or Russian backed forces, I'd go for the US 10 times out of 10.
Say what you want about them, but genocide, starvation and mass human rights abuses are not really their thing.
You can be sure that these will be the hallmarks of Russian and Chinese meddling in Africa and the Middle East going forward.

Can you then provide information about the death camps, pogroms, daily mass executions and other horrific atrocities that are being visited upon the miserable people (what's left of them) of Crimea?

Chrongen

Gringo180 wrote: »

Mods please dont ruin another thread and bury it in that graveyard thats Politics Cafe 2.0.

:pac:

Cheerful Spring

Reports of a chemical attack outside Syria’s capital thrust the U.S. and Russia into new confrontation on Sunday, with Washington calling for an immediate international response and Moscow warning against any military strike.

Rescue workers and activists said dozens died in a chemical assault amid renewed government fire on Douma, the last rebel stronghold in the Damascus area. The use of chemical weapons last April provoked a U.S. missile strike, the first direct American hit on Bashar al-Assad’s regime since the conflict in Syria began in March 2011.

The Foreign Ministry in Moscow warned that any foreign military strike against Syria over “fabricated” reports of chemical warfare may lead to the “gravest consequences.”

Reported White Helmets were involved known Al Qaeda affiliates

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-08/u-s-calls-for-response-after-alleged-chemical-attack-in-syria

Cheerful Spring

US President Donald Trump has said Syrian President Bashar al-Assad will have a "big price to pay" for launching a deadly chemical weapons attack on civilians, and blamed Iran and Russian President Vladimir Putin for backing "animal Assad."

President Trump condemned the "mindless chemical attack" in Syria that has killed women and children.

But the president offered no evidence to support the claim by Syrian opposition activists and rescuers that poison gas was used.

Syrian President Bashar Assad's government is denying the allegations of such an attack on a rebel-held town near Damascus, the capital.

Russia said this would happen and the US media will do wall to wall press on this event to get Trump to act. Must have a crystal ball or just good intelligence?

Chrongen

RoboKlopp wrote: »

An easy way for Assad /A.N Other to test chemical weapons safe in the knowledge nothing will be done about it.

If you wanted to test chemical weapons then why wouldn't you just get a few people in a room and test the weapons on them?

If you wanted to test the sharpness of a samurai sword what would you do? Just go out into the street and cleave somebody's arm off? OR would you whack some object like a pumpkin in half and then say "yep, this thing works" ?

Your answer defies any semblance of logic.

Chrongen

RandomName2 wrote: »

I fully support Assad and Russia in Syria. They are the only stable forces in the area. The US wants to destabilise the region and supported rebels to that effect (Al Qaeda, FSA, etc.). However, that hasn't panned out too well and they are backing Kurds. While I am all for backing the Kurds, America wants to still have the support of Turkey, and when the chips are down, the Kurds pay the price.

The Damascus rebels are on their knees. Using conventional warfare Assad has eliminated almost all of their territory. Maybe he has sought to level the playing field by using chemical weapons at the 11th hour in order to give the rebels international support. :rolleyes:

Assad does not seem like a nice person. He is by all accounts a brutal dictator. But we should also be realistic instead of wanting to rebuild the middle east in our image. Assad's weakness created ISIL. Think about that.

Yet he was invited to spend a few comfy nights at Buckingham Palace. Maybe there were no airbnb's available at the time?

Elmer Blooker

The only thing that surprises me about this "chemical attack" is that it has taken so long to happen. I expected it weeks ago!
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=106434873

Manic Moran

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

No an NSA report in 2005 said warning shots were fired on the 2nd of August 1964. On the 4th of August 1964, a false report circulated three Vietnamese boats attacked US destroyer called the Maddox. Historians all agree today this never happened. US writers have tried to make excuses for this event to justify the war in Vietnam.

Eh?

Even the North Vietnamese claimed that shots were exchanged on 02 August. How else would they have claimed the torpedo hit on Maddox and shooting down a US aircraft? Maddox was involved in the 02 August incident.

Strange warning shots that the US claimed to have sunk two of the boats, which also left a bullet hole in the destroyer.

Gringo180

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

If I had the choice of being oppressed by US backed forces or Russian backed forces, I'd go for the US 10 times out of 10.
Say what you want about them, but genocide, starvation and mass human rights abuses are not really their thing.
.

Sure its not.

mcmoustache

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Russia saw this coming weeks ago there would be a false flag event in this region.

And that doesn't make you suspicious?

barrier86

sickening, absolutely sickening.

hopefully this is the final straw and Assad is finally brought to book

Gatling

Gringo180 wrote: »

Sure its not.

Should we post pictures from the shooting down of Flight MH17 .
To counter your post

Cheerful Spring

mcmoustache wrote: »

And that doesn't make you suspicious?

They are trying to stop WW3 and it only makes thing worse if the US attacks Assad.

Gatling

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

They are trying to stop WW3 and it only makes thing worse if the US attacks Assad.

Who is trying to stop ww3