Belfast rape trial - all 4 found not guilty Mod Note post one

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

Just saw this absolute drivel on twitter with 2k likes.

When will this recent culture of perpetual self-victimisation end? It's just gotten utterly ridiculous thanks to the disconnect to reality offered by the internet. When challenged, in the real world, on these 'flash card' statements, very few can actually back it up with reasoned debate.

When will these people actually get off their keyboards and interact with the real world? Reality may not be perfect....but it's a lot better than this warped, twisted vision being constantly peddled.

They don't want reality TF, that's the thing. The problem with victim/victimiser rhetoric is it is a near gold standard given of totalitarian thought. Every single tinpot totalitarian movement, politic, or state runs with this out of the gate. Every one of them. Paint themselves as the victims and some group as the victimisers and rally together under a banner of self righteousness in the sainthood of the Blessed Victim until the usual endgame of the accused victimisers being turned into actual victims. Name any totalitarian, "ism", or state in history and you will see this is one of the main narrative of all of them. I'm not suggesting feminists are going to end up putting men on cattle trucks(that would be too much like hard work and they'd need men to do the dirty work), but the mechanism that leads to that is the same.

I love how yer wan in that tweet asked "are we always to blame". The irony bypass with these people is staggering. That's also the victim narrative of course. We can't be to blame, the victimiser is always to blame in the end. Like women can't be sexist[insert privilege here], no matter what level of sexism they're displaying. It can't compute for the victimhood peddlers. Women are always agentless victims, men are always to blame.

Deleted User wrote: »

Always a victim.

I wonder do they realise that they could do the same as men. Be wary of other people, require trust to be gained over time and experience, and not put yourself into dodgy positions without having friends nearby to back you up?

Doesn't mean you have to be actively suspicious of everyone, but put your personal safety first. Seems logical to me.

Stop mansplaining, gas lighting and victim blaming you man cur you.

Let's face it K, you're asking people who refuse to take any personal responsibility because it is always someone else's(Men™) fault. Again this does not compute. For a few reasons. The victim is blameless and responsibility requires dropping the narcissism(never gonna happen. it's the scourge of the 21st century) and actually making changes. That's a bridge to far for them.

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

What alternate system do they hope to overhaul the current court system with?

To hell with due process, presumption of innocence and right to a fair trial?

They don't know UG. That's the thing. They have zero clue beyond shouting down with this sorta thing. If it doesn't fit in a tweet or a hashtag, or a hastily penned banner it's completely bloody beyond them. Even if they did get the utopia they can't measure or define, they'd still be whinging. They'll never be satisfied.

In another time of real social and political foment in the West that actually took to the streets rather than iPhones; to quote Lennon; John, not Vladimir...



"You say you want a revolution.../...You say you got a real solution
Well, you know, we'd all love to see the plan".

At least some then claimed to have "real solutions". All this lot can do is channel pure ChickThink™, that is; feels trumps facts, rhetoric trumps explanation, blaming trumps self examination, shouting trumps dialogue, blocking trumps debate. #alwaysbelievewomen(exceptwhenitdoesntsuit)