The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V2

colmufc · 24-03-2018 06:26PM

Anybody stuck to get in ? I've a spot going mate pulled out last min and by last min I mean I was meant to meet him on the luas and he just txt to say he ain't going
I want to punch some people so much

brinty · 24-03-2018 07:24PM

Cowboys winning at free agency
Cameron Fleming expected to sign in Dallas
Depth behind Tyron smith

Itssoeasy · 24-03-2018 08:23PM

brinty wrote: »

Cowboys winning at free agency
Cameron Fleming expected to sign in Dallas
Depth behind Tyron smith

its nice they win at something.

yes I'm an eagles fan.

brinty · 24-03-2018 08:31PM

Itssoeasy wrote:

its nice they win at something. yes I'm an eagles fan.

Classy eagles fans as always
I'll pass on sinking to that level..

Itssoeasy · 24-03-2018 08:39PM

brinty wrote: »

Classy eagles fans as always
I'll pass on sinking to that level..

So eagles fans can't revel in winning a Super Bowl then ? Cowboys fans did it to eagles fans for years. I've not sank to any level actually. It's nice for the eagles to be on top in the NFL and NFC east for once(it might not happen again). The Giants, Cowboys, and redskins will still have more Super Bowls then the eagles come opening night.

OldMrBrennan83 · 24-03-2018 08:43PM

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jack presley · 24-03-2018 08:43PM

brinty wrote: »

Classy eagles fans as always
I'll pass on sinking to that level..

It's standard practice to laugh at 'winning the off-season' claims, always has been.

Sure the Redskins used to win the off-season regularly and then go 6-10.There's even a t-shirt to commemorate.

24-03-2018 09:45PM

brinty wrote: »

Classy eagles fans as always
I'll pass on sinking to that level..

I feel Like you think your being the bigger man but your coming off as petty

Blut2 · 25-03-2018 11:36AM

Hes a Cowboys fan, if he wants to celebrate "winning" in the off season you might as well let him be. Not having anything to celebrate in the playing season for 20+ years must get to a fellow :pac:

Knex* · 25-03-2018 11:53AM

I'm pretty sure brinty made his comment in jest... Cowboys only made their first offseason move the other day

Guffy · 25-03-2018 03:29PM

Blut2 wrote: »

Hes a Cowboys fan, if he wants to celebrate "winning" in the off season you might as well let him be. Not having anything to celebrate in the playing season for 20+ years must get to a fellow :pac:

They signed hurns, they won nothing

Knex* · 27-03-2018 11:24PM

NFL institutes 15-yard penalty, possible ejection for lowering head to make hit.

Under the change, a player will be penalized 15 yards and potentially ejected any time he lowers his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent. It will apply to tacklers, ball carriers and even linemen, and will take the place of a previous rule that limited the penalty to contact with the crown of the helmet.

Could change the game massively.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22935229/nfl-outlaws-hit-crown-helmet

Paully D · 28-03-2018 08:14AM

Knex. wrote: »

NFL institutes 15-yard penalty, possible ejection for lowering head to make hit.

Could change the game massively.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22935229/nfl-outlaws-hit-crown-helmet

The safety position just became even more devalued.

helimachoptor · 28-03-2018 08:19AM

So as a running back you basically cant hinge at the hips and drive forward with both hands on the ball

Knex* · 28-03-2018 08:24AM

I think they need to change the helmets to something akin to scrum caps and just totally discourage players from tackling without proper technique.

helimachoptor · 28-03-2018 08:33AM

ODB JR getting knocked out

Knex* · 28-03-2018 08:40AM

I think that was confirmed as not being him?

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/giants/beckham-target-false-report-club-brawl-100-not-odell-article-1.3880845

Foxtrol · 28-03-2018 01:18PM

Knex. wrote: »

I think they need to change the helmets to something akin to scrum caps and just totally discourage players from tackling without proper technique.

I don’t think it is hyperbolic to say that you’d have players dying on the field if you did that. You can’t unlearn what you’ve been doing since you were a kid. Same issue with this new rule, there will be a lot of flags from it as players make split second decisions based on muscle memory.

I wonder if this new rule coming down the tracks is why teams have been so slow to pay safties this off season.

Knex* · 28-03-2018 01:30PM

Apparently the rule has been changed in High School for years, and was changed in college last year. Multiple ejections were happening until the latter part of the year when players had adapted.

It'll be tough sledding for a while in the NFL, but they'll get there if they commit to it. New players will be used to it, at least.

TOss Sweep · 28-03-2018 01:39PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

I don’t think it is hyperbolic to say that you’d have players dying on the field if you did that. You can’t unlearn what you’ve been doing since you were a kid. Same issue with this new rule, there will be a lot of flags from it as players make split second decisions based on muscle memory.

I wonder if this new rule coming down the tracks is why teams have been so slow to pay safties this off season.

I disagree with the unlearn thing. But as Knex pointed out High Schools have coaching heads up for the past 10 years and stamping out lowering and leading with your head so there is no excuse for any player coming through the ranks at this point.

College Football has had the ejection rule since 2014 season I do believe also. So this is nothing new to a lot of players in the league. Obviously the ones who fall outside the heads up are guys who have been in the league a long time.

But I went to a conference on the heads up issue back in 2013 and there was a couple of ex NFL players there who now coach and they said the biggest problem with the NFL is that they no longer practice tackling due to the CBA so NFL coaches don't stamp out bad habits. The NFL is really dependent on High Schools and College doing it for them at this point.

As for cutting out bad habits I disagree that you can't change your ways. Many players have and tackle properly. Stubborn attitudes or "I am doing nothing wrong" are just excuses for not even attempting to tackle better without leading with your head. Now granted there will be accidental collisions they cant be helped but some of the nasty tackles we have seen and debated the head is always leading.

Foxtrol · 28-03-2018 03:27PM

TOss Sweep wrote: »

I disagree with the unlearn thing. But as Knex pointed out High Schools have coaching heads up for the past 10 years and stamping out lowering and leading with your head so there is no excuse for any player coming through the ranks at this point.

College Football has had the ejection rule since 2014 season I do believe also. So this is nothing new to a lot of players in the league. Obviously the ones who fall outside the heads up are guys who have been in the league a long time.

But I went to a conference on the heads up issue back in 2013 and there was a couple of ex NFL players there who now coach and they said the biggest problem with the NFL is that they no longer practice tackling due to the CBA so NFL coaches don't stamp out bad habits. The NFL is really dependent on High Schools and College doing it for them at this point.

As for cutting out bad habits I disagree that you can't change your ways. Many players have and tackle properly. Stubborn attitudes or "I am doing nothing wrong" are just excuses for not even attempting to tackle better without leading with your head. Now granted there will be accidental collisions they cant be helped but some of the nasty tackles we have seen and debated the head is always leading.

Seems like you responded to something completely different to what I posted. My post related to Knex’s idea of taking away player’s helmets, not learning to play heads up and having good tackle technique like you seem to be debating. I may have been too absolute and after a few years players may possibly learn to play without a helmet but you’d have to completely change the tackle rules to be akin to current rugby and even then that would only help in the openfield, in the ‘trenches’ players would be destroyed from off the ball head collisions. No highschool nor college teams have transitioned to scrum caps rather than helmets, the idea that they can do so in the NFL is so ridiculous we shouldn’t even discuss it as an option.

TOss Sweep · 28-03-2018 03:32PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

Seems like you responded to something completely different to what I posted. My post related to Knex’s idea of taking away player’s helmets, not learning to play heads up and having good tackle technique like you seem to be debating. I may have been too absolute and after a few years players may possibly learn to play without a helmet but you’d have to completely change the tackle rules to be akin to current rugby and even then that would only help in the openfield, in the ‘trenches’ players would be destroyed from off the ball head collisions. No highschool nor college teams have transitioned to scrum caps rather than helmets, the idea that they can do so in the NFL is so ridiculous we shouldn’t even discuss it as an option.

My bad read you wrong didn't know you were responding to the Rugby style head cap thing. My apologies

For what it is worth I would be 100% against the no helmet idea as you said that is re-inventing the wheel completely with regards tackling. There is a reason why rugby players can only tackle low.

Foxtrol · 28-03-2018 03:47PM

TOss Sweep wrote: »

My bad read you wrong didn't know you were responding to the Rugby style head cap thing. My apologies

For what it is worth I would be 100% against the no helmet idea as you said that is re-inventing the wheel completely with regards tackling. There is a reason why rugby players can only tackle low.

I fully agree with you on the heads-up part though. People will be annoyed about it for a few weeks but players will learn and things will settle down into it.

OldMrBrennan83 · 28-03-2018 05:33PM

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TOss Sweep · 28-03-2018 05:44PM

Patww79 wrote: »

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To be fair you being a bit of a sensationalist. College and High School haven't lost any fans and are still exciting to watch. Why would the NFL be any different?

OldMrBrennan83 · 28-03-2018 05:56PM

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Billy86 · 28-03-2018 06:00PM

Paully D wrote: »

The safety position just became even more devalued.

Your Troy Polamalu/Kam Chancellor, more physical, in the box quite often safety yeah. But on the flipside, the Ed Reed/Earl Thomas type rangy deep safety probably just saw their value go up.

Knex* · 30-03-2018 07:35PM

https://twitter.com/gmfb/status/979718969031507968

raze_them_all_ · 30-03-2018 08:55PM

Raiders cut Marquette king. Genuinely surprised at that

brinty · 30-03-2018 10:03PM

raze_them_all_ wrote:

Raiders cut Marquette king. Genuinely surprised at that

They're taking a punter in round one

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