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Cheltenham Preview Nights 2018

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Patrick Mullins talking down Penhill at previews.
    As is David Casey. As is Willie. And Ruby now telling punters in his love nest not to back Penhill either.

    So how many lengths does Penhill win by?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭longshotvalue


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Patrick Mullins talking down Penhill at previews.
    As is David Casey. As is Willie. And Ruby now telling punters in his love nest not to back Penhill either.

    So how many lengths does Penhill win by?

    Weird i heard he was flying. My bother has him as nap of the festival wont hear of defeat. Seems to short to me for one that hasn't run this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    aidankkk wrote: »
    Weird i heard he was flying. My bother has him as nap of the festival wont hear of defeat. Seems to short to me for one that hasn't run this year.

    I fancy him myself. Obviously would prefer if he had a run.

    All the public noises from the Mullins camp stink on this fella, from what I can see.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Motivator


    Slattsy wrote: »
    I fancy him myself. Obviously would prefer if he had a run.

    All the public noises from the Mullins camp stink on this fella, from what I can see.

    Nobody will know if he’s fancied or not until the day, his owner hasn’t backed him yet but if he does then he’ll more than half in price.

    I don’t care how good the stable are, I can’t see how he can win here on his first start of the season. He’s a seriously good horse, the form of the Stayers Hurdle at Punchestown when he finished second is brilliant but I couldn’t have him on his first start of the season.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,564 ✭✭✭kiers47


    Motivator wrote: »
    Nobody will know if he’s fancied or not until the day, his owner hasn’t backed him yet but if he does then he’ll more than half in price.

    I don’t care how good the stable are, I can’t see how he can win here on his first start of the season. He’s a seriously good horse, the form of the Stayers Hurdle at Punchestown when he finished second is brilliant but I couldn’t have him on his first start of the season.

    There wasn't a bob on him last year anyway so Tony doesn't always come for them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    Slattsy wrote: »
    I fancy him myself. Obviously would prefer if he had a run.

    All the public noises from the Mullins camp stink on this fella, from what I can see.

    That makes you even more confident.
    Bloom would want it that way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭HugoMyBoss


    Has Gary O Brien been involved in any previews?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    Is charli parcs out?


  • Registered Users Posts: 503 ✭✭✭dk6dk6


    Samcro into 6/4fav for supreme. Getabird out to 7/4. (PP prices)

    Samcro has been 6/4 with paddy power for the past week so he's not into 6/4 at all. Your misleading people when all that's happening is Getabird is drifting like everybody knew he would as he was a ridiculous price.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Earendil


    Motivator wrote: »
    Nobody will know if he’s fancied or not until the day, his owner hasn’t backed him yet but if he does then he’ll more than half in price.

    I don’t care how good the stable are, I can’t see how he can win here on his first start of the season. He’s a seriously good horse, the form of the Stayers Hurdle at Punchestown when he finished second is brilliant but I couldn’t have him on his first start of the season.

    Seriously? Christ.
    Arctic Fire came after 400 days plus to win at the festival last year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Earendil wrote: »
    Seriously? Christ.
    Arctic Fire came after 400 days plus to win at the festival last year.

    Big difference between a hcap and cship race


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭danganabu


    Earendil wrote: »
    Seriously? Christ.
    Arctic Fire came after 400 days plus to win at the festival last year.

    Big difference between a hcap and cship race
    With this stayers not really to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,838 ✭✭✭Nulty




  • Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    HugoMyBoss wrote: »
    Has Gary O Brien been involved in any previews?

    Was at the Graham's one in Belfast


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Motivator


    Earendil wrote: »
    Seriously? Christ.
    Arctic Fire came after 400 days plus to win at the festival last year.

    A Stayers Hurdle? One of the most competitive and demanding races of the entire Festival?

    Seriously? Christ.


  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭hobie21


    aidankkk wrote: »
    Slattsy wrote: »
    Patrick Mullins talking down Penhill at previews.
    As is David Casey. As is Willie. And Ruby now telling punters in his love nest not to back Penhill either.

    So how many lengths does Penhill win by?

    Weird i heard he was flying. My bother has him as nap of the festival wont hear of defeat. Seems to short to me for one that hasn't run this year.

    Great, it would make my week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,137 ✭✭✭akelly02


    Just after getting a deal €199 for gold cup day, ferry, transfer , tattersalls tickets the whole lot. Delighted!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭but1er


    akelly02 wrote: »
    Just after getting a deal €199 for gold cup day, ferry, transfer , tattersalls tickets the whole lot. Delighted!!!

    Any more spaces 😂


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,137 ✭✭✭akelly02


    but1er wrote: »
    Any more spaces 😂

    WAs 4 left last night and we took 3 so there could be one ðŸ˜


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭WickIow Brave


    Motivator wrote: »
    A Stayers Hurdle? One of the most competitive and demanding races of the entire Festival?

    Seriously? Christ.

    The race they are running in is irrelevant. It's about the ability to get the horse to peak fitness.

    I don't see much difference in Penhill running at Cheltenham without a run beforehand or what plenty of trainers do when they run a horse in December and go straight to the Festival which is what Penhill did last year - what's that like an 75-80 day break between races? Sam Spinner hasn't ran since December.

    What's the alternative? Penhill runs in the Grade 2 race at Navan that Diamond Cauchois won where he'd have a hack round on heavy ground and then halve in price. Does that really have such a huge impact on his chances at Cheltenham? Mullins won't have left much to work on now in fairness. He's a bigger price than he would be had he had a prep run and I don't think it makes all that much of a difference.

    If Penhill is 2nd or 3rd in the Stayers do you expect him to improve 10lbs at Punchestown?


  • Registered Users Posts: 180 ✭✭HugoMyBoss


    Would I be right in saying that tomorrow, Sunday all runners will be declared for Tuesdays races.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭WickIow Brave


    HugoMyBoss wrote: »
    Would I be right in saying that tomorrow, Sunday all runners will be declared for Tuesdays races.

    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    What time generally WB

    Will be in PP in morning around 10-ish

    Be nice to see 100% confirmations for the 3 lesser races


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭RivetingRoger


    ps - WB - Are u a good ew bet for the CH or with BD, Faugheen, Tent, Yorkhill and Melon also running should I ignore u :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭WickIow Brave


    What time generally WB

    Will be in PP in morning around 10-ish

    Be nice to see 100% confirmations for the 3 lesser races

    You need to have a BHA account to get immediate access to Decs unlike here with HRI site. Follow @AntepostPunter or @festivalracing on Twitter and they should have the fields around 10:30. Racing Post and PA Racing usually have it up straight away too on Twitter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭WickIow Brave


    ps - WB - Are u a good ew bet for the CH or with BD, Faugheen, Tent, Yorkhill and Melon also running should I ignore u :)

    No I couldn't trust WickIow Brave not to be left at the start. Was also hugely flattered at Punchestown. Opportunistic ride/other jockeys napping. Was the 5th best horse in the race.

    Buveur D'air is too short. Went off 5s last year. He's a very good horse but priced as if he's Altior.

    Faugheen ran as good as BD ever has in the Morgiana. Timefigures back that up. Bounced to the moon at Christmas. Improved on that at Leopardstown and I expect him to improve again.

    Ignore Yorkhill outside of Cheltenham. He is *the* 'Cheltenham' horse. I expect him to run to his Neptune/JLT form.

    Melon is still unexposed. I expect him to reverse with MTOY with the weight swing. Ignore last run where he didn't like the hood. Even small improvement on Supreme/International runs and he's into the 160s and near hitting the frame. On pedigree he wouldn't mind soft. He's a better horse than Elgin, Mick Jazz, and Chtibello imo.

    Ground against likes of Verdana Blue, Charli Parcs, and John Constable.

    1 Faugheen 2 Yorkhill 3 Melon

    There ya go Roger. Lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭FatRat


    1 Faugheen 2 Yorkhill 3 Melon

    Wow :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭WickIow Brave


    FatRat wrote: »
    Wow :pac:

    You know it makes sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭famagusta


    1 Faugheen 2 Yorkhill 3 Melon


    4 Wicklow Brave...😉


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭bit of a bogey


    Anyone hear what Davy Russell had to say about Monalee Vs Presenting Percy? Did he have a choice or was his hand forced due to an arrangement with Reynolds/Presenting Percy connections?

    Surely the preview night whore was asked about this somewhere across the country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭bit of a bogey


    I wouldn't have went near Wicklow Brave but with the ground now looking more likely to turn up v soft, i think he could be worth a squeak!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    Was codd involved in any of these? Gave plenty of good tips last year


  • Registered Users Posts: 298 ✭✭handsfree2


    Was codd involved in any of these? Gave plenty of good tips last year

    His brother died recently so I doubt he was up for doing one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,645 ✭✭✭paddy no 11


    handsfree2 wrote: »
    His brother died recently so I doubt he was up for doing one.

    Didn't know that thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭paddybarry


    Anyone hear what Davy Russell had to say about Monalee Vs Presenting Percy? Did he have a choice or was his hand forced due to an arrangement with Reynolds/Presenting Percy connections?

    Surely the preview night whore was asked about this somewhere across the country?

    His mother passed away very recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭bit of a bogey


    paddybarry wrote: »
    His mother passed away very recently.

    Only thought of that after posting. Explains why he maybe wasn't on the preview night circuit this year.

    Rich ricci on atr with Chapman now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    paddybarry wrote: »
    His mother passed away very recently.
    In The Irish Field

    Top jockey loses mother
    Davy Russell's mother Phyllis died peacefully last Saturday after a long illness.
    Her funeral mass took place in Youghal, Co Cork on Tuesday.
    She is survived by her husband Jerry and their six children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,966 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    Anyone hear what Davy Russell had to say about Monalee Vs Presenting Percy?

    In the pullout today in the Star:

    "For Presenting Percy to be at his best, he needs good ground and there probably will be plenty of ease in the ground. That's a concern. He will have to put on a career best to win this RSA".

    "Of the rest, I must say Monalee was impressive at Leopardstown the last day, he showed plenty of class and guts to come back from that fall at Christmas".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭but1er


    I went to Kiltale Saturday night for the preview night, puppy power and davy condon babs Keating leon blanche, scribble a few notes was well cut so bit fogey.

    First day, shout for mossback 4.50

    Wednesday, Dounkos in the rsa if runs. Cause of causes in cross country once soft won't be beaten, carefully selected in the champion bumper, shouts for Al boom photo in the rsa ew

    Thursday invitation only and shattered love in the jlt, supersundee in the stayers all day, shouts for sub lieutenant Ryanair and Finians Oscar jlt.

    Friday. Sadlier triump, gold cup a mind field shouts for definitely red total recall outlander, big chance native River and our Duke not keen on might bite.

    Chairty bet, puppy went supersundee Davy condon went early doors the mc went farclar and leon blanche went Salture

    The nap RP: Supersundee or vision des Flo's, DC went meglakahn ew, lb went laurina and glenlow ew BK went sortitout ew

    Spelling awful but you can work it out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 494 ✭✭Billgirlylegs


    Motivator wrote: »
    A Stayers Hurdle? One of the most competitive and demanding races of the entire Festival?

    Seriously? Christ.

    Cyborgo did it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,722 ✭✭✭posturingpat


    Watched a bit of the Betfair preview. What was the tweet that upset Elliott so much? I presume it was some idiot calling him a crook etc and mentioning the Kinahans/Labaik but seemed like it could've been more than that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Patrick Mullins talking down Penhill at previews.
    As is David Casey. As is Willie. And Ruby now telling punters in his love nest not to back Penhill either.

    So how many lengths does Penhill win by?

    Boom!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭but1er


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Boom!



    Gutted


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ziggy


    This post has been deleted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,835 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Boom!
    This nonsense happens time and time again, yet people here will tell you this outfit is as clean as they come.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭danganabu


    This nonsense happens time and time again, yet people here will tell you this outfit is as clean as they come.

    The race was run to suit, the jockey on the fav had a brain fart, the rest of the jockeys were asleep and allowed a 3m race to turn into a 2f sprint therefore allowing the ex-flat horse to win. The horse was the same price a month ago as it was at the off, I'm not sure why you or anyone can think there was something underhand going on here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,835 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Patrick Mullins talking down Penhill at previews.
    As is David Casey. As is Willie. And Ruby now telling punters in his love nest not to back Penhill either.

    So how many lengths does Penhill win by?
    Ruby at it again.

    https://www.irishracing.com/news?headline=Walsh-looking-towards-Auteuil-with-Mullins-stars-lining-up&prid=191060
    Faugheen could be among the Willie Mullins-trained team heading to France later this month, according to Ruby Walsh.
    https://www.irishracing.com/news?headline=Faugheen-on-holidays-now-after-having-growth-removed&prid=191070
    Faugheen has had a growth removed from his groin and will not run again before next season.
    These articles came out just hours apart!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,277 ✭✭✭danganabu



    You're trying too hard Francie!

    First article contains quotes from Ruby's blog whch goes up on Tuesday evening, Faugheen was diagnosed and operated on Wednesday.

    And I would just love to know what exactly you mean by ''up to it'' considering there wasn't even an antepost market for Auteuil :rolleyes:


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