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Dairy chit chat II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    The guy I know that uses it is paying less that that and blanket jabs the herd twice a year. He reckons it’s the dogs...

    Did she consider it useful?

    She didn't know much about it, sis who's a vet knew nothing about it. I'd say used very little here so far. Was it reduced SCC or cases did your neighbour get from it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    einn32 wrote: »
    A lad in an excavator was asked how the dig was going, he replied I ran out of F's an hour ago!

    Rotflmao. I think that was most of us this day last week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    Big demand for cows today at a local sale. All sold between 650-2500. 650 being for a pb je cow (wasn't the right audience for her) which I really felt like buying and 4 more like her only they were getting a bit on in age and we've a closed herd for a good many years now.
    Majority were 1500 plus. Good ped herd with good production with years of breeding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭Gawddawggonnit


    kevthegaff wrote: »
    She didn't know much about it, sis who's a vet knew nothing about it. I'd say used very little here so far. Was it reduced SCC or cases did your neighbour get from it

    Cut the scc in half and huge reduction in mastitis.
    Met the vet today and asked him about it...he was looking as me like a goat looking at lightning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Cut the scc in half and huge reduction in mastitis.
    Met the vet today and asked him about it...he was looking as me like a goat looking at lightning.
    :D

    That's a new one on me that I'll be using in future


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Henwin


    We had the ice bank maker break during the big freeze last week, so the milk wasn't cooling for a few days, we rang the co op to collect it Tuesday and they said they would but it was Thursday before the milk lorry came and the driver refused to take it as he said it wasn't fresh enough, told us to dump 2500 litres, was sickened, insurance doesn't cover it, the co op won't pay for it so have to suck it up but I feel they shut take some responsibility as they were asked to collect it but didn't


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,860 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    That's though. I, obviously totally disagree with the processor, but it's your call to pursue it or not.
    What's the value, €900?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Henwin


    Water John wrote: »
    That's though. I, obviously totally disagree with the processor, but it's your call to pursue it or not.
    What's the value, €900?

    Ya bout 900, I would like to pursue it but where, it's not covered under our fbd policy and the co op washed their hands of it,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,860 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    The only way is probably be enough of a nuisance to them. Back to carrot and stick. Anyone you know on the Board or at senior management level and appeal to their better nature. Best in these situations to go, as high as possible. At worst you have the precedent offered by Glanbia, in the snow, as an example.
    The stick approach seems a solicitor letter, pointing out that, you are a member of the Society and you and the Coop have mutually agreed that you will supply all product produced to them. They collect ex farm, has been the custom and practise. They will argue back about the product quality. Bit of a ding dong.
    First approach would be my preference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,672 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    einn32 wrote: »
    I got a lad no issues. Good worker. He was never originally a farmer and shows sometimes but Overall I think I can work with him. Trying to find enthusiastic people is hard. I don't get it, they could be stuck in an office as opposed to out in the air but they never see the benefits. Pay is pretty good for Ireland I would have thought but some people are never happy.
    I was at a dairy farm in Westmeath last month for calves and the farmer (who I know a number of years) introduced me to a lad that started working with him last Summer with the words "two Dubs in the farmyard, who'd ever believe it" :D
    Turns out this young lad (20yo) is from the city and had no background in farming other than an Aunt came from Westmeath. He wanted to farm/work with animals/drive tractors so he contacted some of his country cousins for help. Long story short this farmer (not related) gave him a start. The farmer told me that he is the most enthusiastic/willing to learn young lad that he ever had about the place over and above his neighbours children that worked for him over the years. He has encouraged him to do a green cert or go back to college for a B.Sc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,693 ✭✭✭straight


    How're ye getting rid of yer Fr bull calves. Averaging around the 100 euro here from the yard for export.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Henwin


    Water John wrote: »
    The only way is probably be enough of a nuisance to them. Back to carrot and stick. Anyone you know on the Board or at senior management level and appeal to their better nature. Best in these situations to go, as high as possible. At worst you have the precedent offered by Glanbia, in the snow, as an example.
    The stick approach seems a solicitor letter, pointing out that, you are a member of the Society and you and the Coop have mutually agreed that you will supply all product produced to them. They collect ex farm, has been the custom and practise. They will argue back about the product quality. Bit of a ding dong.
    First approach would be my preference.

    Thanks for the advice, we will try option 1 and see if that gets us anywhere, cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭farisfat


    Base price wrote: »
    I was at a dairy farm in Westmeath last month for calves and the farmer (who I know a number of years) introduced me to a lad that started working with him last Summer with the words "two Dubs in the farmyard, who'd ever believe it" :D
    Turns out this young lad (20yo) is from the city and had no background in farming other than an Aunt came from Westmeath. He wanted to farm/work with animals/drive tractors so he contacted some of his country cousins for help. Long story short this farmer (not related) gave him a start. The farmer told me that he is the most enthusiastic/willing to learn young lad that he ever had about the place over and above his neighbours children that worked for him over the years. He has encouraged him to do a green cert or go back to college for a B.Sc.

    I had a ty student the last 5 weeks every friday on work experience from a local town,he was only 16 and never worked on a farm before.
    Great worker and very eager to learn,you could have left him on his own in the parlour after 3 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    farisfat wrote: »
    I had a ty student the last 5 weeks every friday on work experience from a local town,he was only 16 and never worked on a farm before.
    Great worker and very eager to learn,you could have left him on his own in the parlour after 3 weeks.

    Had 8 or 9 different milkers in here over the yrs, mostly students who are well happy to have the part time work which pays a much better hourly rate than Tesco etc, mix of farmers sons and friends of theirs who had very little experience, don't think I've ever had to show any of them more than 3milkings before I let them away themselves at it. Milking isn't rocket science, just keep a simple system, and have instructions for anything that is needed, once it's predictable and no Hardship for the milker they will be happy.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,503 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Henwin wrote: »
    We had the ice bank maker break during the big freeze last week, so the milk wasn't cooling for a few days, we rang the co op to collect it Tuesday and they said they would but it was Thursday before the milk lorry came and the driver refused to take it as he said it wasn't fresh enough, told us to dump 2500 litres, was sickened, insurance doesn't cover it, the co op won't pay for it so have to suck it up but I feel they shut take some responsibility as they were asked to collect it but didn't
    What day did it break down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Henwin


    K.G. wrote: »
    What day did it break down

    It broke down on the Friday, but the cold temperatures kept it cool till it was collected on Sunday night, we had to wait till shops opened on Monday to get the parts and a guy to fix it so it was Tuesday afternoon when it was back in action. We requested that the milk was collected asap, but by Thursday when they eventually came they said it had turned, bit sour but not fresh so couldn't collect it. Maybe we just have to accept it but I'm just wondering if we have any case to get some payment for close to 1000 euro BC worth of milk, thanks for the replies.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,503 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Its your bulk tank fella id be going after,leaving a bulk tank broke down from friday to tues is unacceptable.to be honest that milk was screwed tuesday nevermind thursday


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Had a close on just now. I said I'd give the yard a scrape before I went for a cup of tea. Went over to the yard tractor which was parked in front of the silage pit. I went to start it but forgot to switch on the cutoff switch. I got out the right hand door because I had parked the left too close to the pit. Opened the door and jumped down and the pit scaled down around the tractor, right where the cutoff waseek.png

    Some frightfrown.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,860 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    If the tank has an opening lid, in the cold weather, the milk was certainly ok on the Tuesday. The processor was notified of a problem. Is this farmer so far, out of the way? Either the collection manager or the driver couldn't be arsed.
    One processor has no problem collecting Whelan's everyday, when they want it for a product.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,623 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Had a close on just now. I said I'd give the yard a scrape before I went for a cup of tea. Went over to the yard tractor which was parked in front of the silage pit. I went to start it but forgot to switch on the cutoff switch. I got out the right hand door because I had parked the left too close to the pit. Opened the door and jumped down and the pit scaled down around the tractor, right where the cutoff waseek.png

    Some frightfrown.png

    Do the lotto quick


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,522 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Water John wrote: »
    If the tank has an opening lid, in the cold weather, the milk was certainly ok on the Tuesday. The processor was notified of a problem. Is this farmer so far, out of the way? Either the collection manager or the driver couldn't be arsed.
    One processor has no problem collecting Whelan's everyday, when they want it for a product.

    The risk of it being gone off mightn't have helped it to be prioritised, Monday and tuesday were lovely days here, all meal deliveries around here are delayed 3-4 days, a neighbour had to collect 2ton 30 miles away in the snow on the wednesday


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Had a close on just now. I said I'd give the yard a scrape before I went for a cup of tea. Went over to the yard tractor which was parked in front of the silage pit. I went to start it but forgot to switch on the cutoff switch. I got out the right hand door because I had parked the left too close to the pit. Opened the door and jumped down and the pit scaled down around the tractor, right where the cutoff waseek.png

    Some frightfrown.png

    2cIfWm2.jpg


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,503 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Water John wrote: »
    If the tank has an opening lid, in the cold weather, the milk was certainly ok on the Tuesday. The processor was notified of a problem. Is this farmer so far, out of the way? Either the collection manager or the driver couldn't be arsed.
    One processor has no problem collecting Whelan's everyday, when they want it for a product.
    Back during opehlia i was told that milk would be ok for a night as long as no new milk was put in as the new warm milk turns the old milk in the tank.i know i wouldnt have taken that milk for my tea tuesday but each own


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭farisfat


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Had 8 or 9 different milkers in here over the yrs, mostly students who are well happy to have the part time work which pays a much better hourly rate than Tesco etc, mix of farmers sons and friends of theirs who had very little experience, don't think I've ever had to show any of them more than 3milkings before I let them away themselves at it. Milking isn't rocket science, just keep a simple system, and have instructions for anything that is needed, once it's predictable and no Hardship for the milker they will be happy.

    Agree fully milking isn't rocket science,but when spring is in full flow it's fairly close......80% calved here in 4 weeks and 30% 1st calvers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭satstheway


    Have a cow calved 2 days ago. Was dry tubed and sealed.
    When stripping b4 milking loads if hard lumps came out of back quarters then ordinary beasting milk. Now im finding the same in the calf feeding buckets.
    Never saw it b4. Looks like bits of coconut sized lumps but nearly like a parmesan cheeze in colour and texture.
    Cows fine and its not mastitis that i ever seen before.
    (Maybe she is taking milk solids to another level lol)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 morclc


    Does anyone have any tips on treating cows with e coli mastitis. We have two cows with it, they got it about three days after calving. Just looking for advice on how other people treat e coli mastitis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭dar31


    morclc wrote: »
    Does anyone have any tips on treating cows with e coli mastitis. We have two cows with it, they got it about three days after calving. Just looking for advice on how other people treat e coli mastitis.

    Stomach pump fluids twice a day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    satstheway wrote: »
    Have a cow calved 2 days ago. Was dry tubed and sealed.
    When stripping b4 milking loads if hard lumps came out of back quarters then ordinary beasting milk. Now im finding the same in the calf feeding buckets.
    Never saw it b4. Looks like bits of coconut sized lumps but nearly like a parmesan cheeze in colour and texture.
    Cows fine and its not mastitis that i ever seen before.
    (Maybe she is taking milk solids to another level lol)

    Sounds just like the teat sealer to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    morclc wrote: »
    Does anyone have any tips on treating cows with e coli mastitis. We have two cows with it, they got it about three days after calving. Just looking for advice on how other people treat e coli mastitis.

    Vet straight away iv drugs and fluids if required


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 832 ✭✭✭satstheway


    Sounds just like the teat sealer to me

    Not the sealer its normally clumpier sticky sh1t.
    This is harder and grainer. If u squeese them with ur nail its like parmesan shavings. Quite hard.


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