Dairy chit chat II

Gawddawggonnit

farisfat wrote: »

Would a low cost seasonal calving system work in France.

Loaded question.
What does low cost mean exactly?

I Farm a low cost system but not your typical Teagasc/Nz/Greenfield narrative...

No point trying to practice topiary on an oak tree...

Gawddawggonnit

I’m letting an employee go here...

Excellent worker, absolute demon to work. Honest, reliable and an excellent timekeeper. Brilliant attitude and always in good form. A pleasure to have around the place.

Has a partner and young child of one and a half, so would need good accommodation.

Fluent in Romanian with broken French and only one word in English (begins with f...).

He won’t be left go until I find something suitable for him.

Pm for details.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

I’m letting an employee go here...

Excellent worker, absolute demon to work. Honest, reliable and an excellent timekeeper. Brilliant attitude and always in good form. A pleasure to have around the place.

Has a partner and young child of one and a half, so would need good accommodation.

Fluent in Romanian with broken French and only one word in English (begins with f...).

He won’t be left go until I find something suitable for him.

Pm for details.

Good to see he's fluent in spring farming language anyway:p

charolais0153

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

I’m letting an employee go here...

Excellent worker, absolute demon to work. Honest, reliable and an excellent timekeeper. Brilliant attitude and always in good form. A pleasure to have around the place.

Has a partner and young child of one and a half, so would need good accommodation.

Fluent in Romanian with broken French and only one word in English (begins with f...).

He won’t be left go until I find something suitable for him.

Pm for details.

Why you letting him go?

blackdog1

Mooooo wrote: »

Strep uberis lads any of ye get control of it?. Ophelia opened the door I think and have acc issues now. Was 150 avg of Jan, bulk tank over 300 now. Vet reccomending mamyzin and double course of tubes sensitivity tests suggest synulox or ubro yellow should do. Tylosin will be no good

have it keeping it under control. liming with 10% hydrated dipping with Valiant barrier and hitting it with terrexine, metecam and tylo. last cow that had it now has scc of 44k ( 8th calver)

farisfat

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Loaded question.
What does low cost mean exactly?

I Farm a low cost system but not your typical Teagasc/Nz/Greenfield narrative...

No point trying to practice topiary on an oak tree...

OK a simple grass based system without the feed wagons and all the hassle associated.

Timmaay

farisfat wrote: »

OK a simple grass based system without the feed wagons and all the hassle associated.

Grazing season far too short in France, drought will completely stall grass growth from may to Sept, only way around it would be to irrigate the hell out of the grass, but that adds significant cost I'd imagine, both economic and environmental.

Sillycave

End of an era here and a very sad day, decision has been made to get out of dairying as the auld lads health has unfortunately detoriated and can't see a sustainable living for myself and the parents.
Will be a very tough time and the day of selling them will be extremely tough for everyone especially the auld lad who has farmed all his life
Just hope it is the correct decision and to be hopefully that the auld makes a recovery
(ps sorry for the ramble just needed a release as its a tough time)

Buford T. Justice XIX

Sorry to hear that Sillycave, it's a difficult decision to make.

And this forum is there for helping decisions like that so post away:o

wrangler

Sillycave wrote: »

End of an era here and a very sad day, decision has been made to get out of dairying as the auld lads health has unfortunately detoriated and can't see a sustainable living for myself and the parents.
Will be a very tough time and the day of selling them will be extremely tough for everyone especially the auld lad who has farmed all his life
Just hope it is the correct decision and to be hopefully that the auld makes a recovery
(ps sorry for the ramble just needed a release as its a tough time)

There'll be a lot more like you,
If he's not well don't underestimate the stress of selling the animals and leasing the land, I found that all very stressful and unlike your father I thought retirement couldn't come quick enough.
If your career is going well, don't even consider changing your minds.
Best of luck

Gawddawggonnit

Timmaay wrote: »

Grazing season far too short in France, drought will completely stall grass growth from may to Sept, only way around it would be to irrigate the hell out of the grass, but that adds significant cost I'd imagine, both economic and environmental.

Harvesting rainwater is an environmental cost? Explain please Tim.

Gawddawggonnit

charolais0153 wrote: »

Why you letting him go?

Doesn’t suit.
He’s got a degree in pure mathematics and I thought that I could make a driver out of him. I failed.

Gawddawggonnit

farisfat wrote: »

OK a simple grass based system without the feed wagons and all the hassle associated.

A low hassle system? A low work system?
Like Greenfield?

NO.

Timmaay

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Harvesting rainwater is an environmental cost? Explain please Tim.

You not tell us before you harvest your water from a local river?

Gawddawggonnit

Timmaay wrote: »

You not tell us before you harvest your water from a local river?

Christ!
I steal some water from local river Tim.
To compare...spreading slurry before opening day equals murder while I use cuss words...!

Stop grasping at straws. FFS!

farisfat

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

A low hassle system? A low work system?
Like Greenfield?

NO.

Block calving....milk the cows of grass or a forage crop and dry them of and have a few weeks off.
With a roof.

Gawddawggonnit

farisfat wrote: »

Block calving....milk the cows of grass or a forage crop and dry them of and have a few weeks off.
With a roof.

Milking cows off a forage crop and you’re on a hiding to nothing...look to the Kiwis...only bad farmers make forage!

farisfat

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Milking cows off a forage crop and you’re on a hiding to nothing...look to the Kiwis...only bad farmers make forage!

So the answer is no.

jaymla627

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

farisfat wrote: »

Block calving....milk the cows of grass or a forage crop and dry them of and have a few weeks off.
With a roof.

Milking cows off a forage crop and you’re on a hiding to nothing...look to the Kiwis...only bad farmers make forage!

A lot of the geniuses out their where caught this year, when the drought hit and their was no buffer to get them over the hump....
Fonterra cracking down on feeding pke meant the get out of jail free card wasn't playable either

farisfat

jaymla627 wrote: »

A lot of the geniuses out their where caught this year, when the drought hit and their was no buffer to get them over the hump....
Fonterra cracking down on feeding pke meant the get out of jail free card wasn't playable either

Why don't they use silage.

Gawddawggonnit

farisfat wrote: »

So the answer is no.

.

You’d want to be the ultimate ****tard like me to even contemplate dairying outside of Ireland.

I’ll quote ‘the man’ in the ICMSA...
“Because it’s Agriculture,Agriculture, Agriculture in this economy we don’t have an easy way of diluting our emissions, but we are the most efficient dairy producers in the northern hemisphere”.
This was just before he was quoted as saying “We had 30yrs of quota restrictions, and there can’t be environmental restrictions just lumped on the sector now”.

These quotes are doing the rounds in continental Europe now.

Nice.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

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You’d want to be the ultimate ****tard like me to even contemplate dairying outside of Ireland.

I’ll quote ‘the man’ in the ICMSA...
“Because it’s Agriculture,Agriculture, Agriculture in this economy we don’t have an easy way of diluting our emissions, but we are the most efficient dairy producers in the northern hemisphere”.
This was just before he was quoted as saying “We had 30yrs of quota restrictions, and there can’t be environmental restrictions just lumped on the sector now”.

These quotes are doing the rounds in continental Europe now.

Nice.

Any link to the article that quote came from, Dawg?

Not saying it wasn't said but yesterday seemed to be Irish 'make up sh!t on the internet day' so I'm wondering if it was misquoted or simply made up to suit a narrative.

Gawddawggonnit

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Any link to the article that quote came from, Dawg?

Not saying it wasn't said but yesterday seemed to be Irish 'make up sh!t on the internet day' so I'm wondering if it was misquoted or simply made up to suit a narrative.

Will do.
It’s from an article by either Agriland or the like. It was quoting a guy called McCormack. I didn’t know who he was until I saw him on the 6-1 news last night. I thought the ICMSA man was called Comer...
Agriland etc don’t realise that their articles are immediately translated and published over here. Maybe they have sister companies here?

There’s also a pic of lots of dead Irish calves from a road traffic accident in Holland doing the rounds...
Small world now...

Buford T. Justice XIX

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Will do.
It’s from an article by either Agriland or the like. It was quoting a guy called McCormack. I didn’t know who he was until I saw him on the 6-1 news last night. I thought the ICMSA man was called Comer...
Agriland etc don’t realise that their articles are immediately translated and published over here. Maybe they have sister companies here?

There’s also a pic of lots of dead Irish calves from a road traffic accident in Holland doing the rounds...
Small world now...

Yeah, saw that crash. Pretty horrific tbh.

Just pulled a weanling out of a cow here. Had to shorten the ropes and then move above the knees. Biggest calf I've ever pulled alive and cow up and milking now. Good night's work.

Gawddawggonnit

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Yeah, saw that crash. Pretty horrific tbh.

Just pulled a weanling out of a cow here. Had to shorten the ropes and then move above the knees. Biggest calf I've ever pulled alive and cow up and milking now. Good night's work.

Nice one.
It’s daytime Chief!! Get milking.

Can’t link the article as it’s from a blog type thingy.
Here’s a screenshot.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Nice one.
It’s daytime Chief!! Get milking.

Can’t link the article as it’s from a blog type thingy.
Here’s a screenshot.

Can't get milking at that time, Dawg. It's still night till 7am:D

I have a routine for meds and food which can go very wonky if I stray too far from the normal times so I stick fairly rigidly to that routine, makes life easier for everyone here.

Dakota Dan

blackdog1 wrote: »

have it keeping it under control. liming with 10% hydrated dipping with Valiant barrier and hitting it with terrexine, metecam and tylo. last cow that had it now has scc of 44k ( 8th calver)

Is that tylovet? I had a cow last year constantly getting infected with mastitis in the same quarter and treated her with tetra delta only for it to reoccur when treatment was finished. Vet suggested drying off quarter or inject with tylovet every milking with tubes, it cleared her completely for the rest of her lactation.

Dakota Dan

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Will do.
It’s from an article by either Agriland or the like. It was quoting a guy called McCormack. I didn’t know who he was until I saw him on the 6-1 news last night. I thought the ICMSA man was called Comer...
Agriland etc don’t realise that their articles are immediately translated and published over here. Maybe they have sister companies here?

There’s also a pic of lots of dead Irish calves from a road traffic accident in Holland doing the rounds...
Small world now...

Agriland? The biggest farming sh1t rag on the internet. I wouldn't be taking much of what they say as gospel.

Brown Podzol

Mooooo wrote: »

Strep uberis lads any of ye get control of it?. Ophelia opened the door I think and have acc issues now. Was 150 avg of Jan, bulk tank over 300 now. Vet reccomending mamyzin and double course of tubes sensitivity tests suggest synulox or ubro yellow should do. Tylosin will be no good

Had a run of that last year. Curing it quickly enough with synalux, marbocyl and tolfine injections. Can't remember what tube I was using. Went pre dipping as well as post dipping with a chlorohexadine and lactic acid dip and haven't had a case since, touch wood.

Dakota Dan

Anyone know when the closing date for dairygold milk forecast, I'm sure it's the end of March. They are really hounding suppliers to get their forecast in as soon as possible. What's the story if you intend bailing out of dairying well before 2023?