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Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

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  • #932
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Jesus, that's sad. Papers very much hinting at it being self-inflicted as well :(
    Whatever horrors and demons this guy was battling, hopefully he's at least found some peace.

    I've always wondered about the psychological toll of being a Garda. Numerous factors could potentially make it a lot more difficult than in some other jurisdictions (the low degree of separation between people meaning you very possibly know the individuals involved in your cases personally, and the general lack of justice once people are caught and convicted coming immediately to mind)


  • #933
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    That's a strange one


  • #934
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Young Patrick will walk free from that joke of a court and rightly so.


  • #935
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Young Patrick will walk free from that joke of a court and rightly so.

    looks like you could be right


  • #936
    Suckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Young Patrick will walk free from that joke of a court and rightly so.

    If that Detective was one of the two that said they could identify him, then maybe he will.
    But if he wasn't, then it won't make any difference.
    Why rightly so?


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  • #937
    Mardy Bum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,674 ✭✭✭Mardy Bum


    thebull85 wrote: »
    I dont believe anyone gets a fair trial in the SCC, and look at the evidence.. The whole trial is based on that photo.

    Yeah it isn't him. This is Tom Robinson all over again.


  • #938
    SmartinMartin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,936 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Young Patrick will walk free from that joke of a court and rightly so.

    Why is it a joke? I think it's perfect for the likes of your friends involved in organised crime who could otherwise intimidate a jury.


  • #939
    Suckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,211 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    It wasn't one of the detectives anyway.
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/no-evidence-that-gardai-colluded-to-wrongly-identify-patrick-hutch-in-photograph-court-hears-36521433.html
    The court has heard Detective Gardai Fergal O’Flaherty and Jonathan Brady identified Mr Hutch in the photo when Gda Michael Ryan showed it to them at Ballymun Garda Station on February 7, 2016. Det Sgt Patrick O’Toole brought the two detectives for the viewing.

    The Detective that was found was Detective Fox
    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/colm-fox-garda-regency-ballymun-12007835

    Sad. left a young family behind.


  • #940
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    SmartinMartin wrote: »
    Why is it a joke? I think it's perfect for the likes of your friends involved in organised crime who could otherwise intimidate a jury.

    You dont know me, so why are you implying i have friends in organised crime? Withdraw that comment or delete your post.


  • #941
    SmartinMartin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,936 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    thebull85 wrote: »
    You dont know me, so why are you implying i have friends in organised crime? Withdraw that comment or delete your post.

    Of course you have sympathy in a certain direction if you think "young Patrick " is innocent. What a stupid post.


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  • #942
    redarmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭redarmy


    thebull85 wrote: »
    You dont know me, so why are you implying i have friends in organised crime? Withdraw that comment or delete your post.

    lol


  • #943
    Captain Obvious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    I've always wondered about the psychological toll of being a Garda. Numerous factors could potentially make it a lot more difficult than in some other jurisdictions (the low degree of separation between people meaning you very possibly know the individuals involved in your cases personally, and the general lack of justice once people are caught and convicted coming immediately to mind)

    Suicide is at ab alarming level in the Gardaí at the moment.
    thebull85 wrote: »
    You dont know me, so why are you implying i have friends in organised crime?

    Probably because of your defence of people involved in organised crime.


  • #944
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    SmartinMartin wrote: »
    Of course you have sympathy in a certain direction if you think "young Patrick " is innocent. What a stupid post.

    i never said he is innocent, what i will say is there is f**k all evidence of his guilt.


  • #945
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Captain Obvious wrote: »
    Suicide is at ab alarming level in the Gardaí at the moment.



    Probably because of your defence of people involved in organised crime.

    Point out where i defended people involved in organised crime.


  • #946
    redbuck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭redbuck


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Point out where i defended people involved in organised crime.

    Welcome back sheriff


  • #947
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    redbuck wrote: »
    Welcome back sheriff


    im not the sheriff, mods feel free to check it out.


  • #948
    Thesomersarms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭Thesomersarms


    Sad to hear about the detective, I believe he was also the lead detective investigating the double murder recently in ballymun


  • #949
    Muahahaha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,768 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Very sad about the detective in Ballymun, RIP


  • #950
    Benteke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Benteke


    Committed suicide with his own gun, Very sad RIP


  • #951
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    thebull85 wrote: »
    im not the sheriff

    Ah, but are you the deputy?


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  • #952
    rondog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭rondog


    https://www.thesun.ie/news/2167049/hutch-gang-vows-to-take-down-daniel-cancer-kinahan-by-driving-wedge-between-mob-boss-and-brother-christopher-as-social-media-war-launched/
    I know its the Sun but if theres any truth behind it it will be interesting to see the Hutches take on the Kinahans with Cyber warfare :-).
    I don't think appealing to the hearts of anyone on the Kinahan side will work.Most criminals are motivated by greed and money not morals.
    Christy Junior was always a shy retiring lad.From what I knew of him years ago all this crime and violence wouldn't be natural to him.Apart from being a fair bit slower than Daniel he was never going to be the leader in the Cartel.I can imagine him breaking down though under the stress of the Feud.Think that's why the writer of the tweets is appealing to him


  • #953
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    If I remember correctly, the Garda picked up either the Kinahan's or associates of the Kinahan's at Dublin Airport and gave them an armed escort to a safe house while they were here to attend the funeral of David Byrne following the Regency Hotel attack.

    I don't recall seeing any such VIP treatment for the Monk when he came back to attend the funeral of his brother Eddie Hutch?

    One could be forgiven for thinking that even the law of the land are taking sides in this feud.

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #954
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    If I remember correctly, the Garda picked up either the Kinahan's or associates of the Kinahan's at Dublin Airport and gave them an armed escort to a safe house while they were here to attend the funeral of David Byrne following the Regency Hotel attack.

    I don't recall seeing any such VIP treatment for the Monk when he came back to attend the funeral of his brother Eddie Hutch?

    One could be forgiven for thinking that even the law of the land are taking sides in this feud.

    Armed escort or "lets tail these guys because there could be trouble"?


  • #955
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Armed escort or "lets tail these guys because there could be trouble"?


    That would apply to both sides surely?

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #956
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    rondog wrote: »
    https://www.thesun.ie/news/2167049/hutch-gang-vows-to-take-down-daniel-cancer-kinahan-by-driving-wedge-between-mob-boss-and-brother-christopher-as-social-media-war-launched/
    I know its the Sun but if theres any truth behind it it will be interesting to see the Hutches take on the Kinahans with Cyber warfare :-).
    I don't think appealing to the hearts of anyone on the Kinahan side will work.Most criminals are motivated by greed and money not morals.
    Christy Junior was always a shy retiring lad.From what I knew of him years ago all this crime and violence wouldn't be natural to him.Apart from being a fair bit slower than Daniel he was never going to be the leader in the Cartel.I can imagine him breaking down though under the stress of the Feud.Think that's why the writer of the tweets is appealing to him

    Very interesting development - what's the twitter account ?


  • #957
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Gadgetman496 wrote: »
    That would apply to both sides surely?


    it certainly would. Were the gardai aware what flight the monk returned on ?


  • #958
    Gadgetman496
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,454 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    A little background into this feud

    https://soundcloud.com/thestandwitheamondunphy/ep-122-the-dapper-don-is-finished

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • #959
    thebull85
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    it certainly would. Were the gardai aware what flight the monk returned on ?

    check out regency cover up on twitter if you want a laugh, some disturbed oulwan thinking the kinhans are after her. Thats where the sun got this garbage.


  • #960
    rondog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭rondog


    begbysback wrote: »
    rondog wrote: »
    https://www.thesun.ie/news/2167049/hutch-gang-vows-to-take-down-daniel-cancer-kinahan-by-driving-wedge-between-mob-boss-and-brother-christopher-as-social-media-war-launched/
    I know its the Sun but if theres any truth behind it it will be interesting to see the Hutches take on the Kinahans with Cyber warfare :-).
    I don't think appealing to the hearts of anyone on the Kinahan side will work.Most criminals are motivated by greed and money not morals.
    Christy Junior was always a shy retiring lad.From what I knew of him years ago all this crime and violence wouldn't be natural to him.Apart from being a fair bit slower than Daniel he was never going to be the leader in the Cartel.I can imagine him breaking down though under the stress of the Feud.Think that's why the writer of the tweets is appealing to him

    Very interesting development - what's the twitter account ?
    It was on Daniel Kinahans Twitter account but DKs account has since been deleted.Seems it rumbled DK a bit.


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  • #961
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,925 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    thebull85 wrote: »
    check out regency cover up on twitter if you want a laugh, some disturbed oulwan thinking the kinhans are after her. Thats where the sun got this garbage.


    I'll pass.


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