Pubs open good Friday shows TDs in Vintners pockets

McMurphy · 25-01-2018 11:16PM

jasper100 wrote: »

Of course.

https://www.thesun.ie/archives/irish-news/228306/cheap-booze-but-you-lose-supermarkets-toasting-e24m-vat-back-trick/

That link says it is legal for supermarkets to sell below cost, not that they are doing so.

falinn merking · 25-01-2018 11:16PM

Del2005 wrote: »

The VFI are doing their job, promote and protect rural publicans. You should be complaining about the off licence operators not forming a powerful lobby to lobby against the increase, but they aren't because they will make more money.

You know your post makes a lot of sense.
The whole point of this thread is about exposing powerful lobbies and their lies.

Like bertie ahern in the Galway tent with all the property developers and we all seen how that ended for the country.
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falinn merking · 25-01-2018 11:17PM

jasper100 wrote: »

The off Licence association is in favour of higher prices. I doubt the big retailers are too bothered at not being able to give alcohol out below cost either.

Repeating a lie over and over again does not make it a fact.
There is no below cost selling when we have the most expensive drink in Europe.

Farmer Bob · 25-01-2018 11:21PM

Verpiss dich wrote: »

Why are people so short sighted? they think they have won some kind of victory today?

You'd swear there weren't enough days in the year for people to get drunk...

jimbobaloobob · 25-01-2018 11:24PM

Pubs open good Friday, i say its a good thing. Creating a run on it like weve seen over the years only leads to sensationalism.

Spanish Eyes · 25-01-2018 11:32PM

Good. The separation of Church and State. This law against alcohol sales has been in existence since Adam was a boy.

Anyway it will be a one day wonder, and then we carry on.

Ironic though, that MUP is being introduced to save us from ourselves (sorry... to line the pub owners pockets as opposed to the off licences), but the GF change is brought in for Tourism. Ha ha.

Talking out of both sides of their mouths, but the common denominator is the vintners.

Anyway. One big hoo haa on GF this year, and then, stand back.... this is normal forever more.

There will always be a nanny state though. I dislike that intensely when it says one thing, but means another. I am sure you can work it out.

falinn merking · 25-01-2018 11:34PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Good. The separation of Church and State. This law against alcohol sales has been in existence since Adam was a boy.

Anyway it will be a one day wonder, and then we carry on.

Ironic though, that MUP is being introduced to save us from ourselves (sorry... to line the pub owners pockets as opposed to the off licences), but the GF change is brought in for Tourism. Ha ha.

Talking out of both sides of their mouths, but the common denominator is the vintners.

Anyway. One big hoo haa on GF this year, and then, stand back.... this is normal forever more.

There will always be a nanny state though. I dislike that intensely when it says one thing, but means another. I am sure you can work it out.

Funny how you understood my point so well while two or three posters got very confused.

VFI drink bad raise the price of drink and while we are at it we want an extra day to sell the stuff.

jimbobaloobob · 25-01-2018 11:34PM

Not only the vintner benefit.

Lots of children benefit. Good Friday and Christmas Day are seen as spike days for calls to childline. Often that happens because aholes that would be drinking in pubs are instead exposing their children to the negatives of it in their homes.

falinn merking · 25-01-2018 11:38PM

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

Not only the vintner benefit.

Lots of children benefit. Good Friday and Christmas Day are seen as spike days for calls to childline. Often that happens because aholes that would be drinking in pubs are instead exposing their children to the negatives of it in their homes.

Yes happy children like to have Mammy and Daddy get legless in the pub while they are either given a packet of crisps or left home alone.

Fr_Dougal · 25-01-2018 11:40PM

What day is Good Friday on this year? 🤔

YFlyer · 25-01-2018 11:44PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

What day is Good Friday on this year? 🤔

Friday I think.

salmocab · 25-01-2018 11:47PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

What day is Good Friday on this year? ðŸ€”

It actually clashes with Christmas this year so the pubs will be shut anyway. The vintners didn’t see that coming.

falinn merking · 25-01-2018 11:52PM

Next thing the Vintners will want a massive tax on holidays to Spain and France to stop Irish people binge drinking for two weeks.
We instead should encourage Irish people to holiday in Ireland and drink in their local VFI grubby watering hole.

It BeeMee · 26-01-2018 12:13AM

salmocab wrote: »

It actually clashes with Christmas this year so the pubs will be shut anyway. The vintners didn’t see that coming.

In 1946, Good Friday fell on Easter Monday

falinn merking · 26-01-2018 12:14AM

It BeeMee wrote: »

In 1946, Good Friday fell on Easter Monday

It broke a leg and had to be shot.:P

Mr.H · 26-01-2018 12:22AM

why are people who dont want to drink on good friday so annoyed??

Just dont drink if you are against it.

Truth is most likely youll be in the pub whinging about the fact that the pub shouldnt be open.

I dont consider myself religious and dont see why I should be told what day of the year I cant drink. I dont drink most days. Why cant I go to the pub if I so happen to be off work that day??

Nothing changes except the Catholics get a bit less control over our society

falinn merking · 26-01-2018 12:23AM

Mr.H wrote: »

why are people who dont want to drink on good friday so annoyed??

Just dont drink if you are against it.

Truth is most likely youll be in the pub whinging about the fact that the pub shouldnt be open.

I dont consider myself religious and dont see why I should be told what day of the year I cant drink. I dont drink most days. Why cant I go to the pub if I so happen to be off work that day??

Nothing changes except the Catholics get a bit less control over our society

Did you read any of this thread?

And the Church had nothing to do with the ban on drink sales on Good Friday.

Mr.H · 26-01-2018 12:29AM

Verpiss dich wrote: »

Did you read any of this thread?

And the Church had nothing to do with the ban on drink sales on Good Friday.

Yes I did read it actually

And yes the church did have a big say on banning drink sales on Good Friday. It may not have been directly involved but they had huge influence over the decision. But to be fair their influence is probably a much bigger and more varied debate.

I have no idea what you are on about with the "Did you read any of this thread?" comment because this thread does seem like a few whiny people giving out about the idea of the bars being opened. As if they want their ideals forced onto others.

McMurphy · 26-01-2018 12:30AM

Ash Wednesday is on Valentine's day.

Easter Sunday is April fools day.

There's a joke in there somewhere.

Dravokivich · 26-01-2018 12:31AM

Verpiss dich wrote: »

Did you read any of this thread?

And the Church had nothing to do with the ban on drink sales on Good Friday.

Then why else would it happen on one of their holy days?

falinn merking · 26-01-2018 12:32AM

Mr.H wrote: »

Yes I did read it actually

And yes the church did have a big say on banning drink sales on Good Friday. It may not have been directly involved but they had huge influence over the decision. But to be fair their influence is probably a much bigger and more varied debate.

I have no idea what you are on about with the "Did you read any of this thread?" comment because this thread does seem like a few whiny people giving out about the idea of the bars being opened. As if they want their ideals forced onto others.

There is the post that I started the thread with.
And as it happens I do enjoy a drink on Good Friday.
But then if you had read the thread.:D

Verpiss dich wrote: »

Why are people so short sighted? they think they have won some kind of victory today?

The same corrupt lying scum that are behind this move want to more than double the price of a few beers at home in the name of saving us from binge drinking.

I am sure the scmmy VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland) will make sure none of their customers drink drive or consume more then four drinks on good Friday to prevent binge drinking.

A plague on their business they get the law changed to help their business and yet they also want a change in the law to cripple their competitors in the name of preventing binge drinking.

If these assholes are so worried about binge drinking why did they not try and get in the family business on Good Fridays with their food?

Afterall we are told it's a social thing what could be more social than a nice family day?;):D:rolleyes:

splinter65 · 26-01-2018 12:33AM

Mint Sauce wrote: »

How? Must people I know work on it, and most businesses are open. Its a church holiday, not a public holiday.

It’s a bank holiday but it’s not a holy day of obligation if that’s what you mean by church holiday.

falinn merking · 26-01-2018 12:36AM

Dravokivich wrote: »

Then why else would it happen on one of their holy days?

Feelings are not to be confused with facts.

Some knobhead of a TD proposed this back in the 20s the church had nothing to do with it.

Mr.H · 26-01-2018 12:36AM

splinter65 wrote: »

It’s a bank holiday but it’s not a holy day of obligation if that’s what you mean by church holiday.

Yes its a bank holiday

It is not a public holiday meaning nobody is entitled to the day off

falinn merking · 26-01-2018 12:37AM

Mr.H wrote: »

Yes its a bank holiday

It is not a public holiday meaning nobody is entitled to the day off

Unless they work in a bank.:D

Zaph · 26-01-2018 12:37AM

Verpiss dich, if you want to make unfounded allegations against anyone then please start a site of your own to do so where you can be responsible for the legal bills. But if you make any more allegations of corruption against anyone I'll have no choice but to siteban you.

falinn merking · 26-01-2018 12:39AM

Zaph wrote: »

Verpiss dich, if you want to make unfounded allegations against anyone then please start a site of your own to do so where you can be responsible for the legal bills. But if you make any more allegations of corruption against anyone I'll have no choice but to siteban you.

I apologize I am not up on legal matters.
What I meant was lobbying that is neither open nor democratic.

splinter65 · 26-01-2018 12:40AM

Mr.H wrote: »

Yes its a bank holiday

It is not a public holiday meaning nobody is entitled to the day off

If you have a contract garaunteeing you GF as a paid day off then you are entitled to it.
I’m one of many people who enjoy that.

Zubeneschamali · 26-01-2018 12:44AM

This is actually one of the eighteen prophecies of Armageddon in Revelations:

There are some among you who hold to the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to entice the Israelites to sin so that they drank pints on Good Friday, and tried to commit sexual immorality, but were unable, which happens to all sinners sometimes and is not a big deal. Likewise, you also have those who hold to the teaching of the Vintners. Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will hit you such a slap you will think it is last Monday.

Mr.H · 26-01-2018 12:44AM

Verpiss dich wrote: »

There is the post that I started the thread with.
And as it happens I do enjoy a drink on Good Friday.
But then if you had read the thread.:D

I have read the whole thread (its 6 fricken pages its not exactly a long thread) and my point stands.

You seem too focused on the VTI. Who cares who lobbied for it? At the end of the day its the correct decision. You are saying the the VTI are winning after today as oppose to supermarkets. I could just as easily argue the point that supermarkets are just as heartless and would love nothing more than your money. But again another pointless argument.

If you are so anti VTI then dont go to the pub ever............ The prices are ridiculous I agree. The prices in the supermarkets are also really high I agree. But none of these facts mean anything.

The fact is that people should have the right to go to the pub on Good Friday (and I would argue Christmas day also) if they so choose.

Anyone who says that pubs should be closed on Good Friday and still drinks at home that day is just talking nonsense to be honest. I dont like drinking at home and try to never drink at home. I feel like I drink less because I only drink in the pub. Since I dont go out more than three or four nights a month I think thats a pretty healthy attitude to have. So I feel insulted by any notion that I cant go to the pub when I want just because of "catholic tradition".

Pubs open good Friday shows TDs in Vintners pockets

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