Pubs open good Friday shows TDs in Vintners pockets

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Why are people so short sighted? they think they have won some kind of victory today?

The same corrupt lying scum that are behind this move want to more than double the price of a few beers at home in the name of saving us from binge drinking.

I am sure the VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland) will make sure none of their customers drink drive or consume more then four drinks on good Friday to prevent binge drinking.

A plague on their business they get the law changed to help their business and yet they also want a change in the law to cripple their competitors in the name of preventing binge drinking.

If these people are so worried about binge drinking why did they not try and get in the family business on Good Fridays with their food?

Afterall we are told it's a social thing what could be more social than a nice family day?;):D:rolleyes:

vicwatson

Wonder how the Healy Rae’s voted

Franz Von Peppercorn

This will turn into another incredibly messy day. A new paddy’s day.

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vicwatson wrote: »

Wonder how the Healy Rae’s voted

Yes I wonder?:rolleyes:

SEPT 23 1989

Good day for a boycott

YFlyer

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Good day for a boycott

Will be from the high stool.

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SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Good day for a boycott

Do people have the intelligence on the attention span I doubt it.:(

However I really hope I am wrong.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057834196


It won't be compulsory to drink on Good Friday. You'll be grand.

uck51js9zml2yt

Finally, Irish Rail loose their government provided monopoly







Real opinion......Its a bad day when a bad decision was made

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Van Rapid Transmission wrote: »

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057834196


It won't be compulsory to drink on Good Friday. You'll be grand.

I always have a drink on good Friday I get it in the supermarket on thursday.
The VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland) don't think I should be allowed do this.

TallGlass

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

This will turn into another incredibly messy day. A new paddy’s day.

I wish, I will be working me socks off like any other Friday!

Mrs OBumble

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

This will turn into another incredibly messy day. A new paddy’s day.

It won't.

Most people in most other industries have to work, given that it's not a public holiday.

boreder

So you'd rather be told to NOT do something indirectly by the Christian church, than be given the choice to do it or not of your own free will?

That's a weird perspective to have. Take off the tin foil hat.

It's just another Friday on the calendar now.

Pawwed Rig

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

This will turn into another incredibly messy day. A new paddy’s day.

It isn't a bank holiday for a start.

Mint Sauce

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

This will turn into another incredibly messy day. A new paddy’s day.

How? Must people I know work on it, and most businesses are open. Its a church holiday, not a public holiday.

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boreder wrote: »

So you'd rather be told to NOT do something indirectly by the Christian church, than be given the choice to do it or not of your own free will?

That's a weird perspective to have. Take off the tin foil hat.

It's just another Friday on the calendar now.

So you would rather have the VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland) tell you can't buy a few beers and a fair price in your local supermarket?

So rant about the church and not being involved in the laws of the land.
Meanwhile the VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland) will tell us when and where we can drink and how much me must pay.

Sue Pa Key Pa

Verpiss dich wrote: »

I always have a drink on good Friday I get it in the supermarket on thursday.
The VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland) don't think I should be allowed do this.

So, we are not allowed drink at home now in return for passing this legislation? Basters slipped that one in

bucketybuck

You have to be one sad bastard to latch onto this as a reason to go out and get drunk on that particular day.

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Sue Pa Key Pa wrote: »

So, we are not allowed drink at home now in return for passing this legislation? Basters slipped that one in

Yes the very same people who lobbied for this are behind the move to mad expensive drink at home.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Verpiss dich wrote: »

So you would rather have the VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland) tell you can't buy a few beers and a fair price in your local supermarket?

.

You are ranting about one issue under the heading of another.

What is the topic?

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Van Rapid Transmission wrote: »

You are ranting about one issue under the heading of another.

What is the topic?

The topic is quite clear the VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland) got their way today they lobbied for this.
More relaxed alcohol laws for their business.
They have also lobbied for a law to destroy their competitors.

If you can't understand the topic?

Edit do you have any link to the VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland)?

Pherekydes

Verpiss dich wrote: »

I always have a drink on good Friday I get it in the supermarket on thursday.
The VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland) don't think I should be allowed do this.

Incredibly, you can still do it!

boreder

Verpiss dich wrote: »

So you would rather have the VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland) tell you can't buy a few beers and a fair price in your local supermarket?

So rant about the church and not being involved in the laws of the land.
Meanwhile the scummy lying corrupt VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland) will tells up when and where we can drink and how much me must pay.

I'm not sure why you are going on about supermarkets.

The topic of today: I can decide if I buy a beer on Good Friday or not. The church no longer make the decision for me. That is a good thing.

super_furry

Biggest casualty here is the generation of kids who will never know the lunacy of a Good Friday house party.

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boreder wrote: »

I'm not sure why you are going on about supermarkets.

The topic of today: I can decide if I buy a beer on Good Friday or not. The church no longer make the decision for me. That is a good thing.

But your happy for the VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland) to set the price of drinks that are not purchased in their grubby watering holes?

Franz Von Peppercorn

Mint Sauce wrote: »

How? Must people I know work on it, and most businesses are open. Its a church holiday, not a public holiday.

Lots of people are off. The crowd that used to drink at home will now take to the pubs.

Pawwed Rig

Verpiss dich wrote: »

But your happy for the VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland) to set the price of drinks that are not purchased in their grubby watering holes?

I'm lost

Hector Bellend

I'll be having a compulsory sweaty celebration ****

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Pawwed Rig wrote: »

I'm lost

Your a moderator and have almost 11'000 posts and you have been a member over ten years and you are unaware the VFI are behind the lobbying to cripple home drink sales?

Vex Willems

Verpiss dich wrote: »

Your a moderator and have almost 11'000 posts and you have been a member over ten years and you are unaware the VFI are behind the lobbying to cripple home drink sales?

and what has that got to do with the price of drink?

jasper100

Verpiss dich wrote: »

They have also lobbied for a law to destroy their competitors.

Of course that’s absolutely untrue. Tesco and Dunne’s etc. are not competitors of pubs.

In reality they are cutting the price of alcohol as loss leaders to entice people into their stores.

I would think they are delighted that the price of booze will have to go up, fatter margins for them too.

I am not aware of any supermarket lobbying against the minimum unit price, the only issue they had seems to revolve about the cost of creating segregated areas in their stores for booze.

Ohmeha

VFI are undoubtedly scummy but them now making an extra few quid on Good Friday is the lesser of the two evils of the Catholic Church interfering in another aspect of Irish everyday society

Hitman3000

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

This will turn into another incredibly messy day. A new paddy’s day.

How so it's not a national holiday, it will just become like any other Friday night.

trellheim

Not taking a position but someone asked above who voted

Answer : went through without a vote ( by general agreement )


see http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/debates%20authoring/debateswebpack.nsf/takes/dail2018012500029?opendocument

Question put and agreed to.

Bill reported without amendment, received for final consideration and passed.

Forgot to say that Tuesdays Order of Business for this allowed for a division

(2) The proceedings on Second Stage of the Intoxicating Liquor (Amendment) Bill 2017 [Seanad] shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion after two hours and 20 minutes; any division demanded on the conclusion of Second Stage shall be taken immediately;

http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/debates%20authoring/debateswebpack.nsf/takes/dail2018012300011?opendocument

Nice to see Aengus O Snodaigh taking the Order of Business. I must have missed him moving to the Government benches or is that the way the Business Committee works now ?

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Vex Willems wrote: »

and what has that got to do with the price of drink?

VFI lobbies for more relaxed laws for their business that sells drink and gets it.
The very same VFI lobbies for home sales to be crippled to save us from binge drinking and it looks like the government will comply.

A five year old could understand this I don't get which part has you confused?

Well, I for one welcome our new VFI overlords and will celebrate their arrival by drinking myself into oblivion on the day formerly known as Good Friday.

Verplischdishk or whatever your name is, you’d do well to learn to relax the cacks there buddy. Have a drink, just not at home now, mind.

me_irl

Verpiss dich wrote: »

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Ohmeha wrote: »

VFI are undoubtedly scummy but them now making an extra few quid on Good Friday is the lesser of the two evils of the Catholic Church interfering in another aspect of Irish everyday society

I don't agree with any organization interfering with aspects of everyday life especially ones with vested interests.

me_irl

Verpiss dich wrote: »

I don't agree with any organization interfering with aspects of everyday life especially ones with vested interests.

Do you have a Facebook account?

runawaybishop

Verpiss dich wrote: »

Your a moderator and have almost 11'000 posts and you have been a member over ten years and you are unaware the VFI are behind the lobbying to cripple home drink sales?

Sorry but what does VFI stand for? I haven't heard that term before.

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JayZeus wrote: »

Well, I for one welcome our new VFI overlords and will celebrate their arrival by drinking myself into oblivion on the day formerly known as Good Friday.

Verplischdishk or whatever your name is, you’d do well to learn to relax the cacks there buddy. Have a drink, just not at home now, mind.

I am relaxed I am just motivated to expose the hypocrisy of the VFI.

Rubberchikken

Well i hope everyone's happy - the country is falling apart :D

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runawaybishop wrote: »

Sorry but what does VFI stand for? I haven't heard that term before.

VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland) is the representative body for 4000 publicans. As a trade organisation we promote and protect our members' interests.

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me_irl wrote: »

Do you have a Facebook account?

No.

jasper100

Verpiss dich wrote: »

I am relaxed I am just motivated to expose the hypocrisy of the VFI.

Have you a link to show that dunne’s and tesco have an objection to selling drink at higher prices and making more money?

Ohmeha

jasper100 wrote: »

Of course that’s absolutely untrue. Tesco and Dunne’s etc. are not competitors of pubs.

In reality they are cutting the price of alcohol as loss leaders to entice people into their stores.

The supermarkets are competitors to the filthy expensive publican cartels because they expose the publican cartels by selling alcohol at a profit while still only fraction of the price of what you pay for a pint in a pub

Supermarkets are making nice profits on alcohol at their current prices despite the government's 'cheap alcohol' propaganda/myths/lies

Go to supermarkets in Spain or France for a reminder at the profits our supermarkets are selling this mythical 'cheap alcohol'

runawaybishop

Verpiss dich wrote: »

I am relaxed I am just motivated to expose the hypocrisy of the VFI.

They aren't being hypocritical. Forcing people I to pubs was one of the government's campaign promises

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jasper100 wrote: »

Have you a link to show that dunne’s and tesco have an objection to selling drink at higher prices and making more money?

Did not see Dunnes or Tesco lobbying for this did you?

Why is the VFI so worried about Tesco and Dunnes?

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Ohmeha wrote: »

The supermarkets are competitors to the filthy expensive publican cartels because they expose the publican cartels by selling alcohol at a profit while still only fraction of the price of what you pay for a pint in a pub

Supermarkets are making nice profits on alcohol at their current prices despite the government's 'cheap alcohol' propaganda/myths/lies

Go to supermarkets in Spain or France for a reminder at the profits our supermarkets are selling this mythical 'cheap alcohol'

This 100%.

McMurphy

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

This will turn into another incredibly messy day. A new paddy’s day.

It will in my shyte, good Friday is a normal working day for myself and I'm sure the vast majority of posters.

Why anyone would want to go to the pub just because it's good Friday (as opposed to the other 363 days they can go) is beyond me.

I think the uproar about no.booze on good Friday was directed at the fact that you couldn't buy it anywhere, shop/bar/restaurant due to an ancient outdated law based on religion.

It'll certainly be no paddys day extravaganza.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Verpiss dich wrote: »

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Edit do you have any link to the VFI (Vintners Federation of Ireland)?

No I don't. I'm not defending them. I just wondered if it's the Good Friday ban or restrictions on off licences you want discussed. The off licence can now open GF as it turns out.

But look, you obviously are taking any request for clarification as some sort of personal slight. So carry on.