What do people usually scan at and what your final percentage?

slievenamon fella · 30-12-2017 06:05PM

Scanned my own last week 36 in total.
8 triplets
24 twins
4 singles,
Tbh could have done with a few less triplets.
Hopefully wean close to or just under 2

Sami23 · 30-12-2017 07:31PM

slievenamon fella wrote: »

Scanned my own last week 36 in total.
8 triplets
24 twins
4 singles,
Tbh could have done with a few less triplets.
Hopefully wean close to or just under 2

Very good result

Mac Taylor · 30-12-2017 10:26PM

Scanned today, 32 ewes.
1 empty, 4 singles, 20 twins and 7 triplets, giving 2.03. Happy out!

Had one which scanned a single and what he called a mummified lamb.
He marked her separately, when she lambs will I have to take the mummified lamb from her? Tks, Mac

wrangler · 30-12-2017 10:34PM

Mac Taylor wrote: »

Scanned today, 32 ewes.
1 empty, 4 singles, 20 twins and 7 triplets, giving 2.03. Happy out!

Had one which scanned a single and what he called a mummified lamb.
He marked her separately, when she lambs will I have to take the mummified lamb from her? Tks, Mac

Some lamb on their own, some don't,
They abort them too, there doesn't seem to be any pattern.
I always use gloves, don't care what you meet then.

roosky · 04-01-2018 02:48PM

Im going scanning on the 11th but cant get the day off work so need to bring ewes home from out farm the night before. my question is how long could ewes fast without it doing any harm, TIA

FarmerDougal · 04-01-2018 11:24PM

roosky wrote: »

Im going scanning on the 11th but cant get the day off work so need to bring ewes home from out farm the night before. my question is how long could ewes fast without it doing any harm, TIA

Had mine shut in 24hrs and they were ok

cattle man · 05-01-2018 12:42AM

Scanned last Monday.
42-singles
122 twins
45triplets
1-quad
7- empty
1.96 including empty 2.02 excluding very happy considering the bad back end we had I was expecting a drop.

davidk1394 · 05-01-2018 10:34AM

Scanned yesterday and got a scan of 1.8 lambs to the ewe. Had 53 triplets which is a lot higher than we usually get

sea12 · 05-01-2018 09:31PM

Scanning numbers seem very high this year. All the minerals ye gave them for the sheep welfare scheme seem to be paying off.

adam14 · 05-01-2018 11:11PM

sea12 wrote: »

Scanning numbers seem very high this year. All the minerals ye gave them for the sheep welfare scheme seem to be paying off.

Yes scanned 1.95 here including empties today. Possibly prefer 1.8 but sure good preparation and hopefully won't lose too many.

arctictree · 07-01-2018 07:25PM

5 Empty
19 singles
36 twins
10 triplets

1.73

Most of the singles are ewe lambs so happy enough with that.

arctictree · 07-01-2018 08:43PM

An aside from this, what do ye lads normally do with your empties. I have a ram lamb still in with them.

charolais0153 · 07-01-2018 09:06PM

arctictree wrote: »

An aside from this, what do ye lads normally do with your empties. I have a ram lamb still in with them.

Cull

wrangler · 07-01-2018 09:11PM

arctictree wrote: »

An aside from this, what do ye lads normally do with your empties. I have a ram lamb still in with them.

We slaughter them, but our rams would be taken away six weeks before scanning.
If they're scanned empty then they are empty whereas your empties could've gone in lamb in the last month.
If they were mine I'd slaughter them, I hate dragged out lambing

roosky · 08-01-2018 12:11PM

arctictree wrote: »

An aside from this, what do ye lads normally do with your empties. I have a ram lamb still in with them.

My honest opinion is to just flog them at the next available opportunity, there is enough to worry about and feed at this time of year without carrying empty ewes over for a year.

Sheep breeder · 09-01-2018 11:03AM

Scanned last Thursday the last lot of 26
10 singles
1 triplet
11 doubles
4 empty’s
Some of these were late lambed ewe lambs and the 4 empty’s were ones that kept repeating.

Dickie10 · 09-01-2018 09:58PM

i have 9 empties out of 62 scanned any ideas for the repeats? ewes from 7 years old to 2 years old across different breeds

roosky · 11-01-2018 04:09PM

i ran the ewes in three groups this year to suit different rams one group of 42 ewes had a mature proven ram and able ram lamb with them but I have ended up with 15 singles (36%) the other two groups had 20% and 22% singles

Any ideas what caused the large number of singles

wrangler · 11-01-2018 04:54PM

roosky wrote: »

i ran the ewes in three groups this year to suit different rams one group of 42 ewes had a mature proven ram and able ram lamb with them but I have ended up with 15 singles (36%) the other two groups had 20% and 22% singles

Any ideas what caused the large number of singles

You're going to have singles, and triplets... ewes too fat and too thin can lead to singles, we'd always be aware of getting condition right, even giving meal to thin ones pre mating and making sure there's enough grass at mating.
Even after all of that you can end up with too many singles

roosky · 11-01-2018 05:09PM

wrangler wrote: »

You're going to have singles, and triplets... ewes too fat and too thin can lead to singles, we'd always be aware of getting condition right, even giving meal to thin ones pre mating and making sure there's enough grass at mating.
Even after all of that you can end up with too many singles

Ewes were in perfect condition as I sold a good few ewes before mating so the batch I kept were picked based on condition.

My flock have been very consistent over the last 5/6 years and I would generally have about twice as many twins as singles and triplets and singles would be pretty even.

Could a sub fertile ram produce singles, was talking to a vet and he reckons sub-fertile ram would just increase the barren rate not the singles

charolais0153 · 11-01-2018 05:28PM

roosky wrote: »

i ran the ewes in three groups this year to suit different rams one group of 42 ewes had a mature proven ram and able ram lamb with them but I have ended up with 15 singles (36%) the other two groups had 20% and 22% singles

Any ideas what caused the large number of singles

Different feeding or luck

roosky · 11-01-2018 06:10PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

Different feeding or luck

They were on an out farm alright but the grass was as good as other groups...probably just luck!.......im trying to remove blame from myself !!!

wrangler · 11-01-2018 06:31PM

roosky wrote: »

They were on an out farm alright but the grass was as good as other groups...probably just luck!.......im trying to remove blame from myself !!!

You're dealing with nature, you just get all your ducks in a row and hope for the best.
Excessive barren ewes would be more symptomatic of sub fertile rams than singles.
The scan here was 1.75 which I was delighted with because they were all ewes that either were too old or not in good enough condition for my clearance sale in September.
In the 25 ewe lambs there was
11 doubles
11 singles
3 empty
Which is nearly 1.3, happy enough too

Ard_MC · 11-01-2018 07:32PM

roosky wrote: »

Ewes were in perfect condition as I sold a good few ewes before mating so the batch I kept were picked based on condition.

My flock have been very consistent over the last 5/6 years and I would generally have about twice as many twins as singles and triplets and singles would be pretty even.

Could a sub fertile ram produce singles, was talking to a vet and he reckons sub-fertile ram would just increase the barren rate not the singles

Don't think the ram has anything to do with lambin %.. ewe releases the eggs. Ram problems = barren rate issue.

daviddenis · 11-01-2018 08:18PM

111 Ewe Hoggets

6 Empty
59 Single
46 Doubles
No Triplet.

1.43%

J.O. Farmer · 11-01-2018 10:38PM

roosky wrote: »

i ran the ewes in three groups this year to suit different rams one group of 42 ewes had a mature proven ram and able ram lamb with them but I have ended up with 15 singles (36%) the other two groups had 20% and 22% singles

Any ideas what caused the large number of singles

36% sounds a lot higher than 20% and 22% but if all your groups were a similar size 1 or 2 ewes more in the other groups having singles and 2 or 3 in the singles group having twins and the differences aren't so big.

jmrc · 15-01-2018 09:17AM

scanned 142 yesterday
10 triplet
89 doubles
42 singles
1 empty

1.76, happy enough. ewes in good condition too. all 2, 3'and 4 year olds

DJ98 · 15-01-2018 09:21AM

jmrc wrote: »

scanned 142 yesterday
10 triplet
89 doubles
42 singles
1 empty

1.76, happy enough. ewes in good condition too. all 2, 3'and 4 year olds

Whats the oldest lads tend to keep ewes? Or do you just cull as necessary regardless of the age?

jmrc · 15-01-2018 11:27AM

here its done on merit, but find it hard to keep old ewes.
any trouble is culled, and their progeny are not kept for replacement either.
life is too short for problems...

FarmerDougal · 15-01-2018 02:54PM

68 singles
84 doubles
12 triplets
2quads
3 empty
10 inconclusive as they were gone in lamb before I bought them

1.65 total all hoggets

What do people usually scan at and what your final percentage?

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