What do people usually scan at and what your final percentage?

rangler1

tomwaterford wrote: »

Anythibg to be said for sponging them in this scenario

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You'd be at the outer edges of the breeding season, but I suppose that's the reason that sponging was developed.
It'd be nearly three weeks between sourcing sponges, etc, before you'd get the rams out with them, don't know if you'd gain anything though

sako 85

mcgiggles wrote: »

Oh well f*ck it anyways. Scanned today, 32 ewes, 11singles, 11 doubles, 1 triplet and f*cking 9 empty. Scanner said some had lambs and lost them. All separated now. Can you get blood tests or anything done to see why they aborted? Himself is like a bull. Don't know what happened. We bought in 12 hoggets for breeding and most of them were grand the most of the emptys all had lambs last year. Will have to check back in the diary and see if they had hard lambing last year or anything. He also said he didn't get to flush them properly before the ram went with them so their condition might not have been great. Going to the shop now for a takeaway and beer for him.

I'd let the ram back out. with them

mcgiggles

sako 85 wrote: »

I'd let the ram back out. with them

This is the plan for this evening, himself rang the scanner again and said out of the empties only 3 had been with lamb and aborted, I think if it was toxo that it would have been more widespread?

rangler1

mcgiggles wrote: »

This is the plan for this evening, himself rang the scanner again and said out of the empties only 3 had been with lamb and aborted, I think if it was toxo that it would have been more widespread?

Toxo varies in losses, can be any percentage losses, some of the ewes that you bought might have been exposed to it before and therefore were immune,
You even said that the last 12 bought were alright

farming93

What are llyen cross ewes ageing between 2 and four year old making at the minute ? Scanned at 1.8 to charlaois and llyen rams? Lambing in mid February. Thinking of selling a couple to relieve grass pressure for this year

rangler1

Farming indo reporting inlamb ewes making €115, -€150 ewes with lambs making 170 - 260.
We scanned the rest of the adult ewes today, they scanned a bit better than the first batch so overall 406 ewes carrying 178%
Only 7 ewes barren out of 406...very pleased with that.
We have a vet student coming for the lambing, she came today to see the scanning,
Lovely person and hard worker so might have to change my opinion of students, She already has a degree and has been employed before so that helps, she's just starting veterinary now.

Sheep breeder

Cut the 9 throats and buy a couple of ewes and lambs with the money and no messing with late lambing ewes, a ewe lambs late she will always lamb late,
Did you put the purchased ewes with your own ewes before putting out the ram to mix,

Sami23

Scanned 28 ewes:
5 singles
16 twins
7 triplets

Trying to keep as many as possible alive now is the next job.
Debating whether to put 1 of any triplets that survive on donedeal rather than letting ewe struggle with 3 at minute

mcgiggles

Sami23 wrote: »

Scanned 28 ewes:
5 singles
16 twins
7 triplets

Trying to keep as many as possible alive now is the next job.
Debating whether to put 1 of any triplets that survive on donedeal rather than letting ewe struggle with 3 at minute

Those are great numbers there, what type of ewes/ ram do you have? 
You could try and foster the third lamb onto one of the singles if they are born around the same time?

stantheman1979

We scanned 860 yesterday
19 quads
137 triplets
515 twins
146 singles
23 dry
20 heavys
Overall very happy but bit disappointed with the singles as most of them were hoggets that didnt lamb last yr and had good grass to to nearly christmas.

stantheman1979

Sami23 wrote: »

Scanned 28 ewes:
5 singles
16 twins
7 triplets

Trying to keep as many as possible alive now is the next job.
Debating whether to put 1 of any triplets that survive on donedeal rather than letting ewe struggle with 3 at minute

Sure youre bound to lose a few. Youll need triplets to adopt on at some stage.

Oldira

I bought a 5 star pedigree Belclare last year and had no lambs at all from him. Told the seller who is a registered breeder and he didnt want to know. Is there any comeback at all? If he just offered a replacement or a refund I would have been satisfied. A whole year down the drain.

Sami23

mcgiggles wrote: »

Sami23 wrote: »

Scanned 28 ewes:
5 singles
16 twins
7 triplets

Trying to keep as many as possible alive now is the next job.
Debating whether to put 1 of any triplets that survive on donedeal rather than letting ewe struggle with 3 at minute

Those are great numbers there, what type of ewes/ ram do you have? 
You could try and foster the third lamb onto one of the singles if they are born around the same time?

Ewes are mostly Suffolk crosses and speckled faces. Ram was Charolais

mcgiggles

Half of mine are like that and same cross too  best of luck with them

razor8

Scanned mine today

Ewes scanned 191% including empties

Horny's scanned 168% including empties

Ewe lambs scanned 127% including empties

Green farmer

Oldira wrote: »

I bought a 5 star pedigree Belclare last year and had no lambs at all from him. Told the seller who is a registered breeder and he didnt want to know. Is there any comeback at all? If he just offered a replacement or a refund I would have been satisfied. A whole year down the drain.

Maybe ring the club chairman and ask them their opinion on the matter.

rangler1

Oldira wrote: »

I bought a 5 star pedigree Belclare last year and had no lambs at all from him. Told the seller who is a registered breeder and he didnt want to know. Is there any comeback at all? If he just offered a replacement or a refund I would have been satisfied. A whole year down the drain.

Is he a ram lamb, if he is he might come fertile this year, I've seen them come fertile at a year old.
As a breeder if i got complaints, in nov/dec I'd take the ram and get him tested, give back the money then, I'd never refund based on the farmers word.
To be dependable the test has to be done in the breeding season, so it'll be at least july before you can prove he's infertile

SuperTeeJay

40ewes...6 triplets 33 twins 1 single. 18 ewe lambs...10 twins and 8 singles.

charolais0153

SuperTeeJay wrote: »

40ewes...6 triplets 33 twins 1 single. 18 ewe lambs...10 twins and 8 singles.

Unreal

stantheman1979

SuperTeeJay wrote: »

40ewes...6 triplets 33 twins 1 single. 18 ewe lambs...10 twins and 8 singles.

Super results!! Well done

SuperTeeJay

Ewes are mostly suffolk and charolais/suffolk cross and lambs are all charolais/suffolk.They are in lamb to a texel.Always use the ram effect and it seems to work really well.

Farrell

SuperTeeJay wrote: »

Ewes are mostly suffolk and charolais/suffolk cross and lambs are all charolais/suffolk.They are in lamb to a texel.Always use the ram effect and it seems to work really well.

Would you have any worries using a Tex ram on Ewe lambs?

sea12

SuperTeeJay wrote: »

40ewes...6 triplets 33 twins 1 single. 18 ewe lambs...10 twins and 8 singles.

That's done result well done and good luck with the lambing

SuperTeeJay

Thanks hopefully the lambing will go well.Only at the sheep 4/5 years but they are going well for me.We used the same texel ram on the ewe lambs last year and we had no trouble at all thankfully.

Icelandicseige

SuperTeeJay wrote: »

Thanks hopefully the lambing will go well.Only at the sheep 4/5 years but they are going well for me.We used the same texel ram on the ewe lambs last year and we had no trouble at all thankfully.

What's the ram effect?

SuperTeeJay

The ram is kept away from the sheep for at least a month without sight sound or smell.
He is then let to the sheep wearing an apron or into an adjoining field where ewes can see and smell him for a day or 2.He is then taking away from them.This produces a silent heat in the ewes.He is then reintroduced after 13 days to the ewes.most will come in heat after day 17 and 23 with a stronger and more fertile heat.Thats what i do anyway.Meant to work better on ewe lambs but i find it works on the older ewes also.Ewe lambs have scanned over 1.7 and the ewes over 2 since we started doing it.

nagshead

Scanned yesterday

4 empty
21 singles
37 doubles
18 triplets

That includes 2 pedigree hoggets and 6 ewe lambs, happy enough as there were 28 hoggets that reared twins last year as lambs with no extra feeding and i was also a little late weaning but maybe got lucky with the good weather here when the rams went out .

Lambman

Scanned today 66 0 empty 22 singles 34 doubles 10 triplets 1.8... happy enough tho woulda been alot higher had the charllois ram been with the lot not just the hoggets.... bought 10 Suffolk x charrlois hoggets and put them till the charrlois ram 26 lambs in the 10 hoggets... Suffolk x charrlois ewes seem till be very prolific lookin on here hopefully they'll have enough milk is my only worry.

Oldira

Scanned today. 5 triplets, 25 doubles,8 singles and 2 empty.

Very happy considering I had Zero last year with an infertile ram.

Lambman

Oldira wrote: »

Scanned today. 5 triplets, 25 doubles,8 singles and 2 empty.

Very happy considering I had Zero last year with an infertile ram.

Did you keep your entire flock a year with no lambs or sell out and buy in again?