Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

Rory28 wrote: »

That happens in every thread. Sides are made and we go from there. I dont like all this right and left speak tho. Isn't the majority of Ireland more down the middle?

Sure does but hypocrisy always needs to be pointed out because it quite often is borne from a total lack of self awareness.

People can make jokes and slag each other off if they want but let’s not pretend one side can take the moral high ground in this sh*t flinging contest.

Grayson wrote: »

I'm sure there are plenty of people who do that. I don't. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone as evidence driven as me.
hell, the only reason I went back to university was to study philosophy and maths so that I'd be better at critical thinking.

It's the reason why i keep getting annoyed at people misusing inductive reasoning.

Maybe it's my engineering background or just my mindset in how I look at something and analyse what are the associated advantages and problems, or as they say in software land what are the issues.

And then to paraphrase that great mind, Albert Einstein, come up with a solution which does not involve following the same course of action which has already resulted in the same failures multiple times.

Thus when I view the recent mass migration of people predominantly from the muslim world, and yes a lot of the ones crossing the med are economic migrants as opposed to Syrian refugees, I look at what have been the effects of previously muslim world immigration to Europe.

And we can see an unharmonious relationship between immigrants, more worryingly between the offspring of immigrants, and the indigenous population.

When one analyses what have been the outcomes of mass muslim immigration of non highly educated people to Britain, France, Belgium, Netherlands there is a bleak picture of ghettoes, insularism, discrimination against women and LGBT, demands for sharia law, support for fundamentalists and fundamentalist teachings and ultimately terrorism.

Then I look at what the recent wave of migrants have brought to their new countries and it is even more shocking what with the sporadic unprovoked attacks, murders, sexual assaults, particularly on minors.

You can call me a cynic but I don't see many positives that outway the negatives.

All people of my mindset hear is "not all muslims are terrorists, not all muslims are fundamentalists"
Well we know that, but even if it is only a very small minority, I still don't want to introduce would be terrorists and fundamentalists into my society.

Even if only 1 of every 1000 muslims that enter is an ISIS wantabee bent on wholesale slaughter that is 1 too many.
Even if only 1 out of every 50 is a proponent of sharia law, discrimination against women and LGBT then that is 1 too many.

And it doesn't matter a shyte that some Irish have been terrorists, criminals, misogynists and religious conservatives.

We have only recently sidelined our terrorists and our catholic church religious domination so why are some of us in a mad rush to introduce even more extremist examples of both into our society.

Odhinn wrote: »

You just can't stand the fact hes probably mad, can you?

The Kew Tour sneers at the idea of mental illness.
No such thing you know.
All a load of made up nonsense.

jmayo wrote: »

Maybe it's my engineering background or just my mindset in how I look at something and analyse what are the associated advantages and problems, or as they say in software land what are the issues.

And then to paraphrase that great mind, Albert Einstein, come up with a solution which does not involve following the same course of action which has already resulted in the same failures multiple times.

Thus when I view the recent mass migration of people predominantly from the muslim world, and yes a lot of the ones crossing the med are economic migrants as opposed to Syrian refugees, I look at what have been the effects of previously muslim world immigration to Europe.

And we can see an unharmonious relationship between immigrants, more worryingly between the offspring of immigrants, and the indigenous population.

When one analyses what have been the outcomes of mass muslim immigration of non highly educated people to Britain, France, Belgium, Netherlands there is a bleak picture of ghettoes, insularism, discrimination against women and LGBT, demands for sharia law, support for fundamentalists and fundamentalist teachings and ultimately terrorism.

Then I look at what the recent wave of migrants have brought to their new countries and it is even more shocking what with the sporadic unprovoked attacks, murders, sexual assaults, particularly on minors.

You can call me a cynic but I don't see many positives that outway the negatives.

All people of my mindset hear is "not all muslims are terrorists, not all muslims are fundamentalists"
Well we know that, but even if it is only a very small minority, I still don't want to introduce would be terrorists and fundamentalists into my society.

Even if only 1 of every 1000 muslims that enter is an ISIS wantabee bent on wholesale slaughter that is 1 too many.
Even if only 1 out of every 50 is a proponent of sharia law, discrimination against women and LGBT then that is 1 too many.

And it doesn't matter a shyte that some Irish have been terrorists, criminals, misogynists and religious conservatives.

We have only recently sidelined our terrorists and our catholic church religious domination so why are some of us in a mad rush to introduce even more extremist examples of both into our society.

The problem is we are sadly part of the EU so we don't have any real say in who we let in, or how many. that's why Brittan opted out

splinter65 wrote: »

The Kew Tour sneers at the idea of mental illness.
No such thing you know.
All a load of made up nonsense.

Is this just more of this “I know how you think” bollox or did he actually say that?

recedite wrote: »

:pac:
Well it all depends how you look at it. I had no problem Yosuke Sasaki, but he had a fatal problem with the other guy (whatever his real name turns out to be).

You'd swear all immigrants were murderers

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Is that supposed to bother me? I couldnt care less.

but what if you catch diversity off one of them? He may even look white and you'll never know he was an immigrant. Then one day you'll wake up with a bit of diversity and never know where you got it from.

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Is that supposed to bother me? I couldnt care less.

You care enough to post, so objectively you could care less.

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I have no problem with people coming here for better life, many are here and making this country great, but who wants the guy from London Bridge incident or Waterford Chap in court today or the gentleman from this same thread.

People are worried about the wrong things. Sadly it's people like poor Mr Sasaki last week who sufffers.

More to the point, who wants the guys who don't necessarily engage in direct violence themselves, but who look the other way? Or who have a third world attitude to social freedoms?

The 'direct action' types may be relatively rare, but they're standing on the shoulders of many more who endorse and accept their rationale for direct action.

The absolute best case scenario for multiculturalism is a situation like 1980s Yugoslavia. Huge ethnic and cultural tensions held down by nominally progressive repression and force. And even that failed ultimately.

mcfitness20 wrote: »

the gentleman in Waterford court today for co-ordinating terror in europe is Irish
shaoron ni bheoilain said so, emphatically, on the news

But, but, there's an International expert coming to Court next week to state that the 'Irish' ISIS chap is now okay, and has been de-classified...de-comissioned...de-radicalized, or something.
He's now harmless and has joined a local GAA club, where he shows a great talent for the auld hurling.
Suspended sentence I bet.

Grayson wrote: »

That's not racist at all. :rolleyes:

I am pretty sure you would forget about racism when a fellow runs towards you with a knife shouting alluah akbar.