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Non-Nationals attacking Taxi drivers in West Dublin

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Aegir wrote: »
    oh, that's useful then :rolleyes:
    *heads desk* yes it is useful as a way to narrow down possible subjects. This is getting as near farcically "right on" as I could think of.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    Ah that's unfair.......

    There could very well be some really decent families there :pac:

    Hansfields barely finished as a building site.

    You're more at risk from stepping in wet concrete there than anything else.

    Maybe they were thinking of huntstown/hartstown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Aegir wrote: »
    oh, that's useful then :rolleyes:

    what it does do though, is to give a nice bit of ammunition to people like the OP, who start having a little rant about non nationals.

    I really don't understand how you can't see how descriptions of suspects are useful. People have been giving out descriptions of perps since forever. Height, build and hair are useful and so is skin colour. It's really simple.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    Skedaddle wrote:
    If anything it's evidence of people integrating into the rich and long standing culture of scumbaggery in Dublin that's been around for a very long time.


    Well said and sadly true.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    You are desperately looking for racism where none is to be found. Give it up. This isnt a racial issue.

    Maybe not from you so I'm not directing this at you but I am going to ask you a question.

    Have you read the thread title?

    OP jumped to the assumption that because these guys are black they were non nationals. That is a racial issue. Very much so.

    I've no problem with them being described as black btw. That's a fact. I do have a problem with people assuming they weren't Irish.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dr Brown


    Odhinn wrote: »
    Where does it say "non-nationals"?

    A mate of mine whos a taxi driver calls them "non-nationals".


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    Aegir wrote: »
    ****ing hell :rolleyes:
    Aegir wrote: »
    wow, patronise much :rolleyes:
    Aegir wrote: »
    oh, that's useful then :rolleyes:

    Your posting style is phenomenal.


  • Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I really don't understand how you can't see how descriptions of suspects are useful. People have been giving out descriptions of perps since forever. Height, build and hair are useful and so is skin colour. It's really simple.

    Yes, I agree.

    My point is that simply describing a bunch of scroates in a newspaper as “Black” isn’t helpful. It doesn’t exactly narrow down the suspects and just gives fuel to the racists.

    The article linked mentions that the latest culprits were black teenagers and suddenly there’s all sorts of discussions about immigration, ghettos, anti social families etc. to the bigots, this type of story is music to their ears.

    That’s why newspapers tend not to describe a gang of black lads up to no good as a group of...black lads up to no good. It doesn’t help anyone but the racists.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,479 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Dr Brown wrote: »
    A mate of mine whos a taxi driver calls them "non-nationals".

    What your "mate" calls them is neither here nor there. The fact is that the article makes absolutely no reference to their nationality, yet your thread title states they are "non nationals".


  • Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Your posting style is phenomenal.

    And yet you thank posts full of ad hominem

    Nice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,460 ✭✭✭✭John_Rambo


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    I wonder is it because they're black or from Dublin 15 that makes them scumbags

    Do you not get it, lads? The Irish are the blacks of Europe. And Dubliners are the blacks of Ireland. And the Northside Dubliners are the blacks of Dublin. So say it once, say it loud: I'm black and I'm proud. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Your posting style is phenomenal.

    “Yes officer I got hit by a car.”
    “What colour was the car?”
    “Why so you can round up everyone in a car of that colour??”

    He was looking for racism that isn’t there and now he’s waffling himself in circles.


  • Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Omackeral wrote: »
    *sigh* No. Not even slightly trying to say anything of the sort.
    “Yes officer I got hit by a car.”
    “What colour was the car?”
    “Why so you can round up everyone in a car of that colour??”

    He was looking for racism that isn’t there and now he’s waffling himself in circles.

    Are you are seriously trying to relate the colour of someones skin and people's reaction to it, to the colour of a car?

    Do you really think they are the same thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭wildlifeboy


    Aegir wrote: »
    oh, that's useful then :rolleyes:

    what it does do though, is to give a nice bit of ammunition to people like the OP, who start having a little rant about non nationals.

    you're such a total donkey you made me log in to call you out, of course its pertinent to the description...oh you are only fueling bigots and rascists... no you're a ****ing clown thats all. you're the problem with todays society not the ones who are willing to describe a group of black lads as a group of black lads because guess what Sherlock thats what they ****ing are


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,691 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    The problem with so many people today is that they are afraid to call a spade a spade.

    you can't tell the truth anymore. You have to go with the "but everybody does it" lines.

    If my mother tongue is shaking the foundations of your state, it probably means you built your state on my land.

    EVENFLOW



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    pilly wrote: »
    I do have a problem with people assuming they weren't Irish.

    and do you know for sure, that the perpetrators are Irish? i mean, you are just assuming this also arent you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,857 ✭✭✭TheQuietFella


    Where does it say they aren't Irish?

    The two suspects in the latest attack in Clonee are described as being black teenagers. Anyone with any information is being urged to contact Blanchardstown garda station on (01) 666 7000, the garda confidential line on 1800 666 111 or any garda station.

    I don't recall too many black Irish being mentioned in the famine or being at the GPO in 1916!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Aegir wrote: »
    Are you are seriously trying to relate the colour of someones skin and people's reaction to it, to the colour of a car?

    Do you really think they are the same thing?

    Yes, black is a colour, white is a colour. Both are the same thing. COLOURS


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    The two suspects in the latest attack in Clonee are described as being black teenagers. Anyone with any information is being urged to contact Blanchardstown garda station on (01) 666 7000, the garda confidential line on 1800 666 111 or any garda station.

    I don't recall too many black Irish being mentioned in the famine or being at the GPO in 1916!

    So that's the standard for being Irish now? You had to be around in 1916? WTF?


  • Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yes, black is a colour, white is a colour. Both are the same thing. COLOURS

    and how often do people get attacked or discriminated against because of the colour of their car?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭wildlifeboy


    pilly wrote: »
    So that's the standard for being Irish now? You had to be around in 1916? WTF?

    there is a video of them on YouTube, they all have either nigerian accents or put on yardy wideboy Landan accents.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    there is a video of them on YouTube, they all have either nigerian accents or put on yardy wideboy Landan accents.

    There's a video of this exact gang? You should get on to AGS immediately!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Laneyh


    The two suspects in the latest attack in Clonee are described as being black teenagers. Anyone with any information is being urged to contact Blanchardstown garda station on (01) 666 7000, the garda confidential line on 1800 666 111 or any garda station.

    I don't recall too many black Irish being mentioned in the famine or being at the GPO in 1916!

    There weren't too many taxi jackings recorded during the famine or 1916 either
    What has that got to do with anything?
    We don't know the nationality of the taxi drivers or the attackers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,170 ✭✭✭wildlifeboy


    pilly wrote: »
    There's a video of this exact gang? You should get on to AGS immediately!!


    post 3312 in this thread

    Home Regional East Dublin 15 Neighbourhood Watch Merged Thread


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,996 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Aegir wrote: »
    Yes, I agree.

    My point is that simply describing a bunch of scroates in a newspaper as “Black” isn’t helpful. It doesn’t exactly narrow down the suspects and just gives fuel to the racists.

    It doesn't exactly narrow down the suspects? How?

    We are looking for a bunch of teenagers. There is a bunch of Spanish exchange students over there - ehhmm no not them. How can you tell. Ehhmm it's not them.

    Just because someone with another skin colour/tone commits a crime doesn't mean it can't be used as a description in relation to that.

    The world is going to fcuk if it's now going to be un PC to describe a person by a definite characteristic.

    Black, White or Asian will be immediately obvious to all of us if we got a quick glimpse of someone but God forbid we should mention it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Aegir wrote: »
    and how often do people get attacked or discriminated against because of the colour of their car?

    Whats that got to do with describing someone that attacked you??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,005 ✭✭✭pilly


    post 3312 in this thread

    Home Regional East Dublin 15 Neighbourhood Watch Merged Thread

    I've no interest in this video, as I said you should contact the Gardaí if you have such evidence available. It will close the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Aegir wrote: »
    Are you are seriously trying to relate the colour of someones skin and people's reaction to it, to the colour of a car?

    Do you really think they are the same thing?
    They are though. Just a superficial layer of colour over a body that works pretty much the same in every car.

    "If you think the right focus on the colour of someone's skin, ask the left..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Aegir wrote: »
    and how often do people get attacked or discriminated against because of the colour of their car?


    I don't know how many actually do but I know a few that should!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    What is the problem here? Is that taxi drivers have been beaten and robbed? Or is that some teenagers that aren't white did it? Would we be even discussing it here if they were white, Irish kids?


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