Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

weldoninhio · 04-01-2018 11:24AM

tayto lover wrote: »

Are you for real? Do you not know the situation?

That situation is quite common in Ireland. There are no stops at the border because there are no checkpoints. Our Govt is looking for this to continue i.e. Brexit talks. No hard border. You can cross as often as you like with no stops in either direction.
There are foreign people coming to a place where i work all the time looking for information re jobs, courses etc. Many of them have no papers. They are coming from England through Belfast and Larne. Quite common.
Dundalk has very high numbers of foreign people living in it, passing through etc.

No one mentioned borders. The Gardai came across this murderer on Monday. They knew on Monday that he was here illegally. They decided to wash their hands of any responsibility on Monday. So whether this was a decision by a singular Garda that they didn't want to bother with the paperwork, or a nationwide edict that people that are here ILLEGALLY should be outside the scope of the law, someone somewhere has made a grave error, which has ended up with a man dead and 2 others in hospital.

If the Garda on Monday had been proactive and detained the guy that was here illegally, then yesterdays events probably wouldn't have happened.

Lionofjudah · 04-01-2018 11:24AM

Islam is the problem. I don't care about the colour of your skin or your country of origin however if you are a believer in the quran and follow its principles then you are an alien in Western society and your practices are potentially dangerous to others.

If we call ourselves a Christian nation which we are far from at this particular moment then just look at what the Quran teaches in its conduct towards us;

Qur’an 9:29—"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

That is just the tip of the iceberg. If we continue to invite Islamic immigrants into this country we'll have the same problems as the UK is having, Sweden (where there are no-go areas because of Sharia Law), Germany, Belgium etc. Study the Quran and learn its principles then you will see how potentially dangerous it is to Western civilization.

tayto lover · 04-01-2018 11:28AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

No one mentioned borders. The Gardai came across this murderer on Monday. They knew on Monday that he was here illegally. They decided to wash their hands of any responsibility on Monday. So whether this was a decision by a singular Garda that they didn't want to bother with the paperwork, or a nationwide edict that people that are here ILLEGALLY should be outside the scope of the law, someone somewhere has made a grave error, which has ended up with a man dead and 2 others in hospital.

If the Garda on Monday had been proactive and detained the guy that was here illegally, then yesterdays events probably wouldn't have happened.

If everybody who was here illegally was arrested then where would you keep them?
You would need 20 new jails.
It is impossible to police this situation as there's so many of them. That's my point.

TheQuietFella · 04-01-2018 11:31AM

Lionofjudah wrote: »

Islam is the problem. I don't care about the colour of your skin or your country of origin however if you are a believer in the quran and follow its principles then you are an alien in Western society and your practices are potentially dangerous to others.

If we call ourselves a Christian nation which we are far from at this particular moment then just look at what the Quran teaches in its conduct towards us;

Qur’an 9:29—"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

That is just the tip of the iceberg. If we continue to invite Islamic immigrants into this country we'll have the same problems as the UK is having, Sweden (where there are no-go areas because of Sharia Law), Germany, Belgium etc. Study the Quran and learn its principles then you will see how potentially dangerous it is to Western civilization.

Wasn't that the same view the British held on Irish Catholics a few centuries ago? Maybe it hasn't changed?
Islam is not the problem. It's the idiots who think that they are in direct contact with Mohammad that are the issue!

weldoninhio · 04-01-2018 11:33AM

tayto lover wrote: »

If everybody who was here illegally was arrested then where would you keep them?
You would need 20 new jails.
It is impossible to police this situation as there's so many of them. That's my point.

Keep them nowhere. Arrest them and have them on the next flight home. There are so many because we've allowed it to get to this point. The Govt and the Gardai need to be proactive and start clearing them out of Ireland.

TheQuietFella · 04-01-2018 11:36AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Keep them nowhere. Arrest them and have them on the next flight home. There are so many because we've allowed it to get to this point. The Govt and the Gardai need to be proactive and start clearing them out of Ireland.

If we had the manpower & finances to do it I would say it would be done but
it's like a lot of different departments, totally under financed!

Professor Moriarty · 04-01-2018 11:37AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

Keep them nowhere. Arrest them and have them on the next flight home. There are so many because we've allowed it to get to this point. The Govt and the Gardai need to be proactive and start clearing them out of Ireland.

We'd need to leave the EU and radically overhaul our immigration laws.

s3rtvdbwfj81ch · 04-01-2018 11:38AM

Lionofjudah wrote: »

Islam is the problem. I don't care about the colour of your skin or your country of origin however if you are a believer in the quran and follow its principles then you are an alien in Western society and your practices are potentially dangerous to others.

If we call ourselves a Christian nation which we are far from at this particular moment then just look at what the Quran teaches in its conduct towards us;

Qur’an 9:29—"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

That is just the tip of the iceberg. If we continue to invite Islamic immigrants into this country we'll have the same problems as the UK is having, Sweden (where there are no-go areas because of Sharia Law), Germany, Belgium etc. Study the Quran and learn its principles then you will see how potentially dangerous it is to Western civilization.

Fake News "Lion of Judah" - "People of the Book" includes both Jews and Christians.

But you knew that.

Tell me how · 04-01-2018 11:38AM

weldoninhio wrote:

Keep them nowhere. Arrest them and have them on the next flight home. There are so many because we've allowed it to get to this point. The Govt and the Gardai need to be proactive and start clearing them out of Ireland.

Would you say the American police force should round up the illegal Irish in the same way?

04-01-2018 11:38AM

Tell me how wrote: »

What's your point?

If stabbed, is it worse that it was an immigrant?

Apologist deflective ignorant nonsense thanked solely by an ignorant deflective apologist.

The point has been made over and over and over and over. This was unprovoked. Morning. In public. Random. The other crimes were crimes of passion where the perps knew the victims very well and things got bad.

Try use the immigrant "point" again. The stabbing in Cavan which you are determined to use as an "Irish people do it too" shield involved, oh..... immigrants! Still irrelevant. I've seen it said "oh but they were white like us". Seriously lads. Time to get a grip. It's not an immigrant thing. It's certainly not a colour thing. It's unchecked and unknown people scurrying around that's the problem. What's their intentions?

I would say take your head out of the sand but I think it's better for us if you keep it firmly planted in it and don't peek out again. Unbelievable carry on.

s3rtvdbwfj81ch · 04-01-2018 11:39AM

Tell me how wrote: »

Would you say the American police force should round up the illegal Irish in the same way?

yes, of course.

Anyone in any country without the right to be there has little sympathy from me.

Turf the fúckers out. Irish or not.

pilly · 04-01-2018 11:40AM

Cason Loud Broomstick wrote: »

No prejudices, just facts and data, NYC is now reported to be safer than the streets of London. (x4 fatal stabbings just on NYE).

Since 'towie' there have been plenty of other acid attacks, even down in Canary Wharf. It's still the reported acid attack capital of the world now regardless. The Met are now largely ignoring low-level crimes due to the increased frequency. The Deputy commissioner has pleaded for help.

You're now just throwing out random ****.

What have the 4 fatal stabbings on NYE and the increase in acid attacks got to do with anything?

It's already been pointed out to you that these crimes are being committed by your ordinary every day scumbag but you just don't want to accept that.

Why?

Tell me how · 04-01-2018 11:41AM

Omackeral wrote:

Apologist deflective ignorant nonsense thanked solely by an ignorant deflective apologist.

I know, I know. The validity of a post is measured by the number of thanks it gets.

Thanks for reminding me.

P.S. please thank this.

Mountainsandh · 04-01-2018 11:52AM

Tell me how wrote: »

You must acknowledge that the wheel is always turning.

10, 30, 50 years ago Irish needed to travel to find work to survive
100 yrs ago we were in the midst of independence and civil war
160 yrs ago we were dealing with the famine.

Hopefully not but it's not unrealistic that your children or grandchildren will be looking outside of Ireland at some point for a welcoming face.

I'm not suggesting we forego our culture or democratic practices but that we offer compassion to others in their time of need.

I'm French myself

True again, things evolve, and our societies improve or dis-improve.
For example like you mention, sometimes we need to reach out to others, and so we formed a bigger bubble with Europe. It worked well for a while, look at me, living and working in Ireland, still eating my mouldy cheeses while Mr M feasts on Calvita and crackers.

I don't think we should preempt and relinquish what we have in the event we need something of other cultures in the future.

Cultural assimilation works well, I'm the perfect example for that. There's plenty of room for compassion when people are willing to assimilate.

Islam's parameters for living are not ones that I wish on my children, and jihad for its most extremist members seems limitless, ie. conquer/convert the world limitless.

I am not willing to let that particular scenario happen for my children where the coin be flipped, and Western culture has to assimilate into Islam here in Europe.

It's not hypocritical or even paradoxical. It's not heartless either.
Assimilation works great, and I've no problem with Western Europe assimilating others, but I wouldn't choose to let Western European values be assimilated here in Europe

Varik · 04-01-2018 11:54AM

Tell me how wrote: »

Would you say the American police force should round up the illegal Irish in the same way?

It's not the police it's ICE and they do, few sob stories in recent months from Irish people who think the rules don't apply to them.

04-01-2018 12:03PM

silverharp wrote: »

Yosuki Sasaki (24) stabbed in the back while walking innocently with his headphones on.

Cowardly c*nt is that attacker. Dirt.

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Chap looks so happy in this picture. RIP Yosuki.

weldoninhio · 04-01-2018 12:03PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

We'd need to leave the EU and radically overhaul our immigration laws.

What??? We'd need to leave the EU and change our immigration laws to arrest and deport people that are here illegally??? What are you waffling on about??

weldoninhio · 04-01-2018 12:05PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Would you say the American police force should round up the illegal Irish in the same way?

100%. Unless you think that the Irish are some special group? The US police should be rounding up all illegal immigrants, not just Irish, but the Irish shouldn't be getting any special treatment.

04-01-2018 12:05PM

FTA69 wrote: »

All the while sending millions of their citizens to other countries to workand then moaning like f*ck when their political counterparts in Western Europe deride this mass immigration as being a detriment to wages and community cohesion. Total and utter hypocrites.

Whatever about the rest of your post, I've no issue with anyone coming to our shores to work for a living. Beats a lot of our lazy homegrown idle spongers anyway.

Professor Moriarty · 04-01-2018 12:06PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

What??? We'd need to leave the EU and change our immigration laws to arrest and deport people that are here illegally??? What are you waffling on about??

Just responding to your uninformed and speculative rant with a little piece of reality. I'd explain it to you in more depth but I suspect I'd be wasting my time. Carry on.

Irishmale0399 · 04-01-2018 12:07PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

We'd need to leave the EU and radically overhaul our immigration laws.

That has to be a statement made by someone who has never left the Big Smoke.......

Look out the window mate.....roads, fast internet, jobs.....wouldnt have any of it without EU funding

:rolleyes:

Biggest lickspittle on boardz · 04-01-2018 12:07PM

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

I know right. As I said earlier some on here are only wetting themselves with excitement. Finally. After years of being forced to live off events in those dark multicultural elsewheres, while patiently longing for an event of their own to frame as 'Islamic Terrorism', tonight they are only delighted about it. It gives them great opportunity to spread far right racist myths and memes. They're having boners all over. "Finally; been saying it for years; jihad in Ireland"

Fella, listen carefully to my advice: you need to sit down and have a serious chat with yourself. This is the mindset of a warped individual. You have allowed yourself to be consumed by hatred. Sheer, unadulterated, bitter hatred of some imaginary 'other'.
Maybe consider taking a break from boards for a while, and getting yourself to a therapist.

This level of paranoia is not healthy.

The_Kew_Tour · 04-01-2018 12:07PM

A poor guy gets killed because some other **** believes in the Tooth Fairy.

Poor guy may have contributed or was to our society. We failed him and he has suffered the most deadly of attacks. Poor family too.

24 too

Professor Moriarty · 04-01-2018 12:08PM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

That has to be a statement made by someone who has never left the Big Smoke.......

Look out the window mate.....roads, fast internet, jobs.....wouldnt have any of it without EU funding :rolleyes:

You think I'm suggesting we should leave the EU?

Tell me how · 04-01-2018 12:08PM

Mountainsandh wrote:

Islam's parameters for living are not ones that I wish on my children, and jihad for its most extremist members seems limitless, ie. conquer/convert the world limitless.

This is the only part of your post I would counter slightly.

I think the vast majority of Muslim's are of the live and let live variety.

I agree entirely with respect to the sentiment that we should have no place or any tolerance whatsoever for extremism or the conquering of any geographical space by anyone who seeks to dominate and control.

04-01-2018 12:08PM

Tell me how wrote: »

Would you say the American police force should round up the illegal Irish in the same way?

Yes. Absolutely. No point saying things such as undocumented Irish. They're illegal immigrants. Most people would say the same, as much as you probably don't wanna hear that.

testaccount123 · 04-01-2018 12:11PM

Tell me how wrote: »

This is the only part of your post I would counter slightly.

I think the vast majority of Muslim's are of the live and let live variety.

Muslims in Britain have zero tolerance of homosexuality

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality

04-01-2018 12:11PM

Tell me how wrote: »

I know, I know. The validity of a post is measured by the number of thanks it gets.

Thanks for reminding me.

P.S. please thank this.

On the contrary, it's the person that's thanking it rather than the quantity. When they're the only poster thanking a post, it's usually a good way of indicating it's pure scutter.

04-01-2018 12:14PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

100%. Unless you think that the Irish are some special group? The US police should be rounding up all illegal immigrants, not just Irish, but the Irish shouldn't be getting any special treatment.

Poster thought people here would circle the wagons and defend the illegal Irish in America because they're "our own". They were wrong.

weldoninhio · 04-01-2018 12:14PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Just responding to your uninformed and speculative rant with a little piece of reality. I'd explain it to you in more depth but I suspect I'd be wasting my time. Carry on.

Care to point out the EU law that prevents us from deporting people who enter Ireland illegally? *Spoiler Alert* We currently do it, but in paltry numbers. What law are we currently breaking???

In the first five months of this year (2017), the Department of Justice has issued “intention to deport” letters to 1,451 people residing in the Republic. In all of 2016, 1,752 deportation letters were issued.

Of the 1,451 deportation letters issued, 409 were sent to people in the asylum system.

Breaking: At least 1 man dead after stabbing rampage in Dundalk

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