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Berlin "safe zone" for women on NYE

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Unlike what happened in Cologne/Germany new years eve 2015, I haven,t seen nor heard of any reports of mass rapes in Either Poland or Hungary taking place on a public holiday occasion to the point where safe zones were later introduced for women as a result, for example if I type in on google news " safe zones new years eve Poland " this is what comes up

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    If I type in on google news " safe zones new years eve Hungary " this is what comes up

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    But when I type in on google news " safe zones new years eve Germany " this is what comes up

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    Look at the difference in the news reports on google news between one country that took large Islamic Immigration vs the two countries that didn,t take in large Islamic Immigration, safe zones introduced in one vs no safe zones in the other two- go figure .

    You don't know how a search algorithm works do you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Mutant z wrote: »
    Its not a coincidence that the countries that have refused to give in to the Germany's demands were those who suffered most under both Nazism and Communism they dont want another tyranny telling them what they should do they are independent countries now who are perfectly entitled to protect their own borders Merkel will just have to suck it up because they have told her to get lost something this country should do but wont because of the sheep we have running it.

    Strange that most former eastern bloc counties want Germany in increase their military.

    Or it could be that their dislike of refugees has absolutely nothing to do with Germany.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 419 ✭✭Noel82


    Grayson wrote: »
    Strange that most former eastern bloc counties want Germany in increase their military.

    Or it could be that their dislike of refugees has absolutely nothing to do with Germany.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-german-multiculturalism-failed

    Merkel herself says so

    "The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, has courted growing anti-immigrant opinion in Germany by claiming the country's attempts to create a multicultural society have "utterly failed".


    Speaking to a meeting of young members of her Christian Democratic Union party, Merkel said the idea of people from different cultural backgrounds living happily "side by side" did not work."

    She's said in other interviews that it has created a parallel society where there is no integration. Her words, not mine - and it's true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭The Highwayman


    Not going to start a thread but it angered me because I have seen the dying old people in that hospital - they care nothing of material things - and they are deprived of the things that matter to them.

    A crib means fcuk all to us, but to them it's all that is left. It's their faith and belief before they die - a comfort - deprived for stupid reasons.

    In relation to the thread it's the question of whether the natives make these things worse. Ergo this in Berlin.

    Trust me, having lived in Berlin for the last nine years, it is most certainly not Berlin. The natives in Berlin are far more tolerant of the traditions and faiths of different groups, be they Christian, Islam, Judaism or whatever; as well as different sub-cultures and special-interest groups that would fall outside relgious definitions.

    As to the thread at hand, this is not a segregation of a "women-only party-zone" - it's a retreat zone for women who have been victims of sexual assault or molestation. It's not a party anything.

    A while back, there was a thread here on whether or not a slap on the ass of a woman was acceptable and, while it was by no means a majority, a surprising amount of people said they saw no problem with it. And they weren't all muslims or immigrants.

    I'd argue that such an area would see just as much use in a Dublin nightclub than a Berlin NYE party.

    And that would be an idiotic argument. I've lived in Germany for over 10 years in total. And there is far more need for this woman safe space in Germany than in Ireland. And that's only because of the Muslim illegals who have arrived over the last 3 years. If you can't admit this then your are simply lying through your leftist teeth.
    I'll be getting in my car tomorrow afternoon and driving a couple of hours to Köln. Not to party not to drink but to be there if and when the time comes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    And that would be an idiotic argument. I've lived in Germany for over 10 years in total. And there is far more need for this woman safe space in Germany than in Ireland. And that's only because of the Muslim illegals who have arrived over the last 3 years. If you can't admit this then your are simply lying through your leftist teeth.
    I'll be getting in my car tomorrow afternoon and driving a couple of hours to Köln. Not to party not to drink but to be there if and when the time comes.

    And do what exactly ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭The Highwayman


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    And that would be an idiotic argument. I've lived in Germany for over 10 years in total. And there is far more need for this woman safe space in Germany than in Ireland. And that's only because of the Muslim illegals who have arrived over the last 3 years. If you can't admit this then your are simply lying through your leftist teeth.
    I'll be getting in my car tomorrow afternoon and driving a couple of hours to Köln. Not to party not to drink but to be there if and when the time comes.

    And do what exactly ?


    Oh your first draft was much better.

    Strange you thought Muslims were the reason, racist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Oh your first draft was much better.

    Strange you thought Muslims were the reason, racist

    You literally said 'Muslim illegals'.

    My point remains, what exactly would you do ? Apart from appearing hard on the internet of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭The Highwayman


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Oh your first draft was much better.

    Strange you thought Muslims were the reason, racist

    You literally said 'Muslim illegals'.

    My point remains, what exactly would you do ? Apart from appearing hard on the internet of course.

    Are they not illegal immigrants?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Noel82 wrote: »
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/17/angela-merkel-german-multiculturalism-failed

    Merkel herself says so

    "The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, has courted growing anti-immigrant opinion in Germany by claiming the country's attempts to create a multicultural society have "utterly failed".


    Speaking to a meeting of young members of her Christian Democratic Union party, Merkel said the idea of people from different cultural backgrounds living happily "side by side" did not work."

    She's said in other interviews that it has created a parallel society where there is no integration. Her words, not mine - and it's true.

    Did you even read the post I was replying to? The one that mentioned Germany and WW2? And that because of that Poland and other Eastern European countries don't want anything to with Germany and that's why they dislike refugees.

    Which is why I pointed out that eastern european countries want Germany to have more military. Which means their post was wrong.

    And then you posted this which has nothing to do with what my post or the post I was quoting was about.

    Or do you just see a word in a post and make up the rest of the post in your head?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Oh your first draft was much better.

    Strange you thought Muslims were the reason, racist

    I want to know what you're planning to do too. Do you think you're batman?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,496 ✭✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Are they not illegal immigrants?

    Why not stick with your original description of them ?

    I can't wait to see it on the news, 'Brave Irishman saves hundreds of women from Muslims'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭The Highwayman


    Grayson wrote: »
    Oh your first draft was much better.

    Strange you thought Muslims were the reason, racist

    I want to know what you're planning to do too. Do you think you're batman?

    No I'm not batman. I'll be simply going to observe, record and enjoy the fireworks. Anything else is in the hands of the gods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    No I'm not batman. I'll be simply going to observe, record and enjoy the fireworks. Anything else is in the hands of the gods.

    So we know there's going to be one religious nutcase there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭The Highwayman


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Are they not illegal immigrants?

    Why not stick with your original description of them ?

    I can't wait to see it on the news, 'Brave Irishman saves hundreds of women from Muslims'.


    Muslim illegals, do you feel better now? Are they not illegal aliens? Who have no right to be here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭The Highwayman


    Grayson wrote: »
    No I'm not batman. I'll be simply going to observe, record and enjoy the fireworks. Anything else is in the hands of the gods.

    So we know there's going to be one religious nutcase there.

    Ho ho ho my gosh your funny. You should write that one down in case you forget it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Muslim illegals, do you feel better now? Are they not illegal aliens? Who have no right to be here?

    You should probably ease off on the drink tonight. You've got a big drive ahead of you tomorrow to observe some fireworks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭The Highwayman


    dav3 wrote: »
    Muslim illegals, do you feel better now? Are they not illegal aliens? Who have no right to be here?

    You should probably ease off on the drink tonight. You've got a big drive ahead of you tomorrow to observe some fireworks.

    Nah it's only 2.40 here and it's only a couple of hours drive. The 'festivities' don't start till late. I've got time for you leftist, terror apologists.
    Did anyone see the story of the 15 years old German girl murdered yesterday by her Afghan(religion of peace) ex boyfriend?
    And you wonder why German women need a safe space on NYE?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Nah it's only 2.40 here and it's only a couple of hours drive.

    What's the drink drive limit in Germany? At what stage should we start thinking about tipping off the police that there's a mad Irish man barrelling down the autobahn half-cut?

    Has 2017 not gone the way you'd planned? I wouldn't worry about it, it'll all be over soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭JenovaProject


    dav3 wrote: »
    What's the drink drive limit in Germany? At what stage should we start thinking about tipping off the police that there's a mad Irish man barrelling down the autobahn half-cut?

    Has 2017 not gone the way you'd planned? I wouldn't worry about it, it'll all be over soon.

    Is he a racist dav3?
    Let's get him!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,308 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    Is this what it's coming to. I used to be able to go out at night and rape any woman I wanted this shít segregating is bull****. I fly over to cities in Europe and rape different women and fly home the next day. The system works as I have two different sets of clothes left at pre set locations that I change into. I also pre scout the area for CCTV ect...

    It's been working well for me for years but this **** the governments are coming up with sucks. I will have to yank myself off around the clock to keep up with demand.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭JenovaProject


    Is this what it's coming to. I used to be able to go out at night and rape any woman I wanted this shít segregating is bull****. I fly over to cities in Europe and rape different women and fly home the next day. The system works as I have two different sets of clothes left at pre set locations that I change into. I also pre scout the area for CCTV ect...

    It's been working well for me for years but this **** the governments are coming up with sucks. I will have to yank myself off around the clock to keep up with demand.

    Rape is some joke.
    Isn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Is he a racist dav3?
    Let's get him!!!

    Is he? You'd probably have a better idea than I would.

    Why don't you ask him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭The Highwayman


    dav3 wrote: »
    What's the drink drive limit in Germany? At what stage should we start thinking about tipping off the police that there's a mad Irish man barrelling down the autobahn half-cut?

    Has 2017 not gone the way you'd planned? I wouldn't worry about it, it'll all be over soon.

    Is he a racist dav3?
    Let's get him!!!


    What race is that then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭The Highwayman


    dav3 wrote: »
    Nah it's only 2.40 here and it's only a couple of hours drive.

    What's the drink drive limit in Germany? At what stage should we start thinking about tipping off the police that there's a mad Irish man barrelling down the autobahn half-cut?

    Has 2017 not gone the way you'd planned? I wouldn't worry about it, it'll all be over soon.

    You may call who you wish, I haven't had a beer since Friday. And I don't barrel down the autobann I usually stick to the limit. Yes we have limits here in the fatherland here and there.

    Still, you have no funny comment about the 15 year old girl murdered 2 days ago by a Afghan ex boyfriend who should never have been in Europe in the first place? Or was she just another sacrifice on the altar of rape and murder in this fantastic Europe we now live in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Grayson wrote: »
    The problem with that is two fold.

    1) I agree that enlightenment values are great but does our society really embody them? I personally think we have a long way to go.

    2) Conflating people with the society. Let's take a non muslim country for example. India has huge problems with sexual assault and religious violence. But it's not just muslims. Every religion thee has this problem. Most of the gang apes you hear of there are committed by hindu's. But you can't assume that because a guy is a hindu he's a sexual assaulter or a danger to women. Most people here wouldn't.

    And that second point is the problem. People here equate arab/muslim with a threat to women. They don't actually supply figures to back up claims. It's enough just to assume.

    I'd love to have a discussion about how best to assist people to integrate into our society but it's a discussion we'll never have because it always turns into a "Them bad" discussion filled with a ridiculous amount of stereotyping.

    Where are you getting that from?
    India has a huge Muslim population also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,727 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    And that would be an idiotic argument. I've lived in Germany for over 10 years in total. And there is far more need for this woman safe space in Germany than in Ireland. And that's only because of the Muslim illegals who have arrived over the last 3 years. If you can't admit this then your are simply lying through your leftist teeth.
    I'll be getting in my car tomorrow afternoon and driving a couple of hours to Köln. Not to party not to drink but to be there if and when the time comes.

    Fair play to you, I hope the men of Germany step up and protect their women from these migrants and let us see if the media tries to downplay any attacks that do happen. I for one will be interested to hear your report of what you witness tonight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭_Dara_


    A crib? For the overwhelmingly catholic old dying is too much for reception?

    Has to be down below in the chapel?

    Disgraceful, end of. No debate to be had.

    Beaumont is a public hospital by the way.

    I’m a young, atheist dying Beaumont patient and I think that the religious dying of the hospital are well catered for. It’s emotive to keep crapping on about the dying of that hospital like we’re all one homogeneous group.

    I’ve had religion shoved at me in other hospitals in the city at my most vulnerable moments (and I’m not exaggerating there). It’s a relief that it doesn’t ever happen in Beaumont when I have enough on my plate to be dealing with. As said, there are options in the hospital for people who *are* religious.

    Lastly, Beaumont Hospital is a major oncology centre. Many of the dying in- and out-patients attending the oncology services are NOT elderly. Are our views and needs unimportant?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,408 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Where are you getting that from?
    India has a huge Muslim population also.

    Yes but hindu's have a caste system. They also value a woman as less than a man. So lower caste women are effectively worthless to many.

    Google the gang rapes. You'll see that most occur in the southern states which aren't Muslim and in most cases it will say the religion of the perp was Hindu.
    It's so bad that India was ranked worst country to be a woman in out of the G20. And that includes Saudi.

    Here's some stories about the rape crises there.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/whats-really-behind-indias-rape-crisis

    http://uk.businessinsider.com/heres-what-most-indian-men-think-about-rape-2015-3?r=US&IR=T

    Here's a horrible story about the aftermath.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-32444349

    There's also been a resurgence in Hindu nationalism which some believe makes rape more common. It also includes vigalanty groups who attack people suspected of eating beef. Here's a story which combines both that and rape.
    http://www.thejournal.ie/india-rape-2976669-Sep2016/

    And finally, if you can stomach it after all the other horrific stories, here's one from last week about a temple run as a virtual prison for women.
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/21/delhi-police-raid-spiritual-university-and-find-women-behind-locked-doors


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    JPCN1 wrote: »
    Poland had a great deal of help with making their country a mess. Possibly started with the Germans dropping by for tea in 1939. They suffered the greatest proportionate human loses and most of their intellectuals were wiped out before being passed along as playthings for the Russians. Those who ignore the lessons of History and all that... IMO they are dead right to be skeptical of Germany and it's intensions.

    So you think Polish women don't report sexual and domestic violence and it isn't taken seriously by the police because of the Nazi invasion in 1939? Amazing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Japan have these along with women only carriages on trains. Good on the Germans for following the most un multicultural society I've visited..

    I also love Japanese society btw.


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