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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭BeardySi


    Tenger wrote: »
    https://www.aerlingus.com/travel-information/aer-lingus-news/saver-fare/

    This graphic indicates that checked in bag, headphones, blanket and advance seat selection are optional extras.

    If they're the same headphones they had when I last flew transatlantic with them, I'd strongly recommend bringing an adapter for regular ones! They were so bad they were practically unusable...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    @tenger, cleaners are still placing headsets on seats and there are spare bags in the overheads. As of 2 days ago.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Stovepipe wrote: »
    @tenger, cleaners are still placing headsets on seats and there are spare bags in the overheads. As of 2 days ago.
    So EI haven’t completely lost the plot then.
    I wonder will they go down the “buy your meal” route with those Saver Fares. The COO seems quite proud of the offer during last months PHL launch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    ha fook...ive my own noise cancelling headphones....so ill need an adapter by next week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,784 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    As regards the headphones thing, it's a nice little extra 'saving' (or the appearance of a saving) for a traveller looking to eek out as much value they can from a fare.

    How many people nowadays would have their laptops/tablets/phones with them and their own headphones, watching their own stuff? And wouldn't bother with IFE? I only ever used it to look at the progress map :P:D I'd watch movies/shows on an iPad or laptop.

    And I know it's only drops in the ocean, but how much less weight is 30/50 pairs of headphones per flight over the course of a year, over the course of the fleet going to add up to in fuel savings?

    Didn't one of the big U.S. carriers do something like that years ago (80's maybe) with the amount of olives they put in a salad being reduced by 2 or 3, and over a year they reckoned it saved them $50,000 in fuel? or was that just a myth?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,172 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Didn't one of the big U.S. carriers do something like that years ago (80's maybe) with the amount of olives they put in a salad being reduced by 2 or 3, and over a year they reckoned it saved them $50,000 in fuel? or was that just a myth?

    AA, but it was the cost of the olives. And the eventually eliminated all that cost (and fuel) by not giving meals in economy at all...

    There will be a weight saving and an associated fuel saving but whether it covers any lost revenue from the cheaper fares is a different question.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    .....
    Didn't one of the big U.S. carriers do something like that years ago (80's maybe) with the amount of olives they put in a salad being reduced by 2 or 3, and over a year they reckoned it saved them $50,000 in fuel? or was that just a myth?

    It was indeed American Airlines. And the staff member who came up with it got approx $35,000 as a bonus. It was a portion of the cash saved. (used to work with an ex-AA staffer who left them in 1991)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,784 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    L1011 wrote: »
    There will be a weight saving and an associated fuel saving but whether it covers any lost revenue from the cheaper fares is a different question.

    possibly not, but if it puts 3-4 more bums on seats due to an 'attractive' fare for someone, and thus increases load, surely it's a win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭California Dreamer




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Ciano35


    Hi everyone, hope it's ok to ask this here...

    In my spare time recently I've been creating a fully custom free Shannon Airport for X-plane and I'm trying to keep it as realistic as possible. Some pictures can be found over here.

    I'm kind of stuck at the moment because I'm finding it very difficult to find pictures of the airside portions of all the buildings between the main terminal and Aer Lingus cargo buildings, even trying to watch Youtube videos but not finding much. So I'm hoping maybe somebody here works airside or knows where I could find a few pictures?

    Thanks very much!

    EINN.png


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭LiamaDelta


    Ciano35 wrote: »
    Hi everyone, hope it's ok to ask this here...

    In my spare time recently I've been creating a fully custom free Shannon Airport for X-plane and I'm trying to keep it as realistic as possible. Some pictures can be found over here.

    I'm kind of stuck at the moment because I'm finding it very difficult to find pictures of the airside portions of all the buildings between the main terminal and Aer Lingus cargo buildings, even trying to watch Youtube videos but not finding much. So I'm hoping maybe somebody here works airside or knows where I could find a few pictures?

    Thanks very much!

    They've mapped the airside on google streetview. Just drop the little man onto the blue line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,425 ✭✭✭Ciano35


    LiamaDelta wrote: »
    They've mapped the airside on google streetview. Just drop the little man onto the blue line.

    The blue lines don’t come up for me airside, but they do at Dublin airport, do they definitely come up for you at Shannon?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    dashoonage wrote: »
    lads/ladies aerlingus trans Atlantic....do i need a headphone jack adapter?

    Just to update this. Flew to nyc 757-200 i think. Nice fast screens and a standard headphone jack and usb port on the side of the screen.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    dashoonage wrote: »
    Just to update this. Flew to nyc 757-200 i think. Nice fast screens and a standard headphone jack and usb port on the side of the screen.
    Nice one. I’ve yet to travel on one of their B757s, but have been told the screen is more user friendly than the system on their A330s. More responsive and standard headphone jack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,281 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Ciano35 wrote: »
    The blue lines don’t come up for me airside, but they do at Dublin airport, do they definitely come up for you at Shannon?

    There's no street view at Shannon, I'd say OP didn't read the Shannon airport bit and just assumed you were on about Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,991 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    My God but the Mirror is just unreal, they call this a frightening landing in fact its looks great and to me its an Aer Lingus ATR.

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/storm-caroline-bumpy-landing-flybe-11654422


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,263 ✭✭✭robyntmorton


    Landing was spot on. No shaking about, and it was an EI ATR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,486 ✭✭✭Bazzy


    Most non story ever

    The landing looked perfectly fine to me !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,263 ✭✭✭robyntmorton


    Though I note the pictures and video are different aircraft. The pics are the Flybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,321 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    You got to love the language used.

    "Packed with passengers".

    You get mental images of about 200 people in it, all standing and jammed in like a tube train.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,321 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Just watched it, and that looked a perfectly good landing. Seemed to be little to no shaking about. Just approached at the angle to offset the wind.

    I've been on a lot worse. And YouTube has hundreds of clips a lot worse than that.

    Fake news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 465 ✭✭Ewan Hoosarmi


    The pilot of that plane must be fuming if he/she reads that rubbish. Looks textbook to me. Right on the centre line.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 645 ✭✭✭faoiarvok


    Video been removed, or just my phone?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 465 ✭✭Ewan Hoosarmi


    faoiarvok wrote: »
    Video been removed, or just my phone?
    Still there on PC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,623 ✭✭✭California Dreamer


    The landing was an ATR, and then it transformed into a Dash-8!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭Grahamer666


    The Mirror = Bog Roll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭LeChienMefiant


    Frightning? Like Greased Lightning?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭LiamaDelta


    Ciano35 wrote:
    The blue lines don’t come up for me airside, but they do at Dublin airport, do they definitely come up for you at Shannon?


    Sorry as mentioned - I thought you had completed Shannon and were looking for Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,346 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,047 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Kuwait no longer routing it medical patients through Shannon after stop and search(es) http://www.arabtimesonline.com/news/no-new-health-fees-minister/

    theres a line in there about using another airline, I thought they be using Kuwaiti Air and would hardly change from them???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,346 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    I could understand that decision if they used Paris, however London will stop and search each and every passenger as well as requiring them to have a Visa.
    So well done Mr Minister, you made the wrong decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,346 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    I could understand that decision if they used Paris, however London will stop and search each and every passenger as well as requiring them to have a Visa.
    So well done Mr Minister, you made the wrong decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,047 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    smurfjed wrote: »
    I could understand that decision if they used Paris, however London will stop and search each and every passenger as well as requiring them to have a Visa.
    So well done Mr Minister, you made the wrong decision.
    on a pass through flight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,346 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Yep, even if the people do not even get off the plane.
    I have done roundtrip and pass through flights through Luton where all the crew and passengers had to go to the terminal for checking. The process actually makes it one of the slowest airports to transit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,047 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Yep, even if the people do not even get off the plane.
    I have done roundtrip and pass through flights through Luton where all the crew and passengers had to go to the terminal for checking. The process actually makes it one of the slowest airports to transit.

    ah found an article from mid 2016 that suggests it was only a temporary arrangement http://www.arabianbusiness.com/kuwait-airways-new-york-flight-include-irish-security-stopover-636644.html
    The change in the route of the flight has been made due to renovation work at Kuwait International Airport.
    Even this article about the extension of the agreement says its only to February http://www.shannonairport.ie/gns/about-us/latest-news/latest-news/16-09-26/kuwait_airways_to_extend_shannon_service_and_double_frequencies.aspx

    Might be about the delay, rather then issue of being searched at all, could London do US preclearance quicker?

    there was that already ill man who died on Kuwaiti Airways flight earlier this year
    http://clareherald.com/2017/01/man-dies-on-plane-at-shannon-airport-21617/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,281 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    I see Atlanta Hartsfield airport has been closed for the past number of hours due to a power cut.

    Atlanta being the airport that carries the largest amount of passengers in the world, it must be an expensive few hours!

    How could such a power cut occur and what contingency plans could/should be cut in place to prevent this from resulting in a closure of the airport?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Lustrum


    Don fearr a bhí ag craoladh ar Maastrict Radar inniú, bhí sé iontach píosa gaeilge a cloisteáil ar an raidió ar maidin, beidh mé ag súil don céad comhrá eile - maith an fear!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭jimbis


    Hadn't heard of this before.
    British military pilot flew as far as Mullingar after unauthorised Border crossing in December 1987
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/british-military-pilot-flew-as-far-as-mullingar-after-unauthorised-border-crossing-1.3331155


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Flying business class for the very first time at the moment... AKL to DXB on an Emirates A380... All I can say is wow!! :):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,784 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Flying business class for the very first time at the moment... AKL to DXB on an Emirates A380... All I can say is wow!! :):)

    Just don't like it too much!! unless of course you've won the lotto.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,346 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Send us pictures :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    jimbis wrote: »

    Not aviation related, however I do recall an incident in the 1970's where members of our Defence Force strayed over the Border and set up a checkpoint. A local RUC patrol happened on the scene and informed all concerned that they were indeed upon Her Majesty's fair and sceptred isle. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,478 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Just don't like it too much!! unless of course you've won the lotto.

    Didn't win the lotto unfortunately! :D

    Emirates offered me business class for this flight at a considerable discount. Now, it was still very expensive, but since the flight is scheduled for 17 hours, I thought that this was the most justifiable time ever to pay for it. I just cannot sleep in a seat, so the offering of a flat bed was a game changer for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,281 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    https://www.joe.ie/news/shannon-airport-adds-three-new-low-cost-routes-us-612756

    Just posting here for my general hatrid of tabloid journalism.

    What a terrible headline. Apparently an extra weekly service is now a new route, and two extra services on the same route is now 2 new routes. This is backed up by the content of the article.

    I hate clicking on the article in fear of funding these eejits with the viewing of ads.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,971 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Pat Dunne wrote: »
    Not aviation related, however I do recall an incident in the 1970's where members of our Defence Force strayed over the Border and set up a checkpoint. A local RUC patrol happened on the scene and informed all concerned that they were indeed upon Her Majesty's fair and sceptred isle. :eek:

    This sort of stuff happened all the time. The border is rarely clearly defined unless there is a bridge across a river, often then the bridge itself may hust be used as a convenient marker.
    Growing up along the border in South Ulster I often crossed it myself several times a day if playing on a certain uncles land.
    I also proudly smuggled my own birthday present (a brand new bike) across the South Armagh border when I was 9 yrs old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    Tenger wrote: »
    This sort of stuff happened all the time. The border is rarely clearly defined unless there is a bridge across a river, often then the bridge itself may hust be used as a convenient marker.

    I know only to well, as I have my own personal memories and direct experiences to think back upon. Manys the day I spent trudging through to rain around Hackballscross and other such wonderfully memorable places. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Zonda999


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_in_Europe#2017_statistics_(provisional)

    Some interesting insights here I think, and many airports showing very strong growth in 2017, a good sign for the European economy with even Greek airports going well.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,766 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs




  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    The more I see of Dash 8's in strong wind conditions, the more I realise that their reputation for being an evil airplane to handle in strong winds is probably justified, they are clearly a serious handful to keep on profile, and that gear layout is very unforgiving if it does end up being a "positive" arrival. I've heard it suggested that the 8-400 was a stretch too far, it certainly does not look comfortable or easy to handle when the winds are close to or at the limits.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,872 ✭✭✭dball




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