Refugee Family Reunification

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

You don’t hear about it because it rarely happens. Even if they’re not granted asylum they can appeal.

Are you forgetting our little friend Pamela? How much did it cost us to get rid of this scam artist? How many years did it take?

And where is Pamala now?

Many of the issues shown up in that case are now not possible as the law has been amended and the courts have elimited many of the issues.

I accept the system is far from perfect but many of the issues from late 1990’s have been rectified.

I still say that the system is too slow and people who are illegal should be deported with greater speed. But it must be accepted that deportations are rising and the system is slowly getting better, but more must be done.

Help!!!! wrote: »

Heard an interview with a guy who was on the asylum committee & he said he refused something like 98% of applications but they they would appeal but he would refuse them again. He said that they were all chancers
He has now retired & seemingly they 98% has dropped quite a bit

Ireland for its own reasons used to split asylum and Subsidary protection. Now a person applies for international protection to explain the difference. In fact most Syrians do not in reality satisfy the requirements for Asylum. But the same Syrian would be entitled to subsidary protection. So yes under the old system say a Syrian applies he would be refused asylum then appeals then refused then applied for Subsidary protection (many used to be refused A’s application only made on paper) now application is oral a fair few of the same people refused Refugee status are then granted Subsidary protection.

But Ireland for its own stupid reasons draws the process out. There is no valid reason why 90% of applicants could not be processed fully within 6-9 months.

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Where is Udeh now? Twice refused asylum.

And your point is in relation to my post?

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Ask the poor woman he raped.

Did you actually read my post. The part that says if the system was set up right people would be deported. Are you saying I somehow was the cause of the rape?

Really Interested wrote: »

PeterParker957 wrote: »

Ask the poor woman he raped.

Did you actually read my post. The part that says if the system was set up right people would be deported. Are you saying I somehow was the cause of the rape?

Not at all.

I'm saying that we shouldn't be taking massive numbers of backwards thinking idiots who can't be trusted to behave it normal society as we'll never get shut of them.

Really Interested wrote: »

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

My point is that these failed asylum seekers are not promptly deported when their application fails.

Can you back up your claim that ‘deportations are rising’ etc., please? Source would be good.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/nearly-4-500-people-deported-from-state-last-year-1.2994473%3fmode=amp

Figure represents 17% increase on 2015 and mostly comprises non-EU nationals refused entr

“In addition, 428 failed asylum seekers and illegal migrants were deported from the Republic and 67 EU nationals were returned to their countries of origin on foot of an EU Removal Order.”

As I said more needs to be done but it’s going in the right direction. The system was mental to be honest but slowly they are fixing it in 2002 over 12,000 entered and sought asylum by 2015 that figure was about 1000. I accept it is rising again but part of the reason for that was the system was such a mess thousands of people where in the system for years that is mental.

But funny thing even though I call for a better faster system I somehow and a libtard just because I also want a fair system.

How do these people get here to apply?????

I've a mate who is a born and bred Dub. Lost his passport somewhere between getting it checked in UK airport gate and arriving in T2. He was threatened with being sent back to England !!!!!

Can't we stop them at immigration ???

PeterParker957 wrote: »

How do these people get here to apply?????

I've a mate who is a born and bred Dub. Lost his passport somewhere between getting it checked in UK airport gate and arriving in T2. He was threatened with being sent back to England !!!!!

Can't we stop them at immigration ???

If a person get to Irish shore and claims International protection then Ireland under international law must hear the case. I accept that because of the rubbish system cases took up to 10 years and wasted huge sums of money. But in last few years the system is trying to adapt.

2002 12000 people applied by 2015 that was down to about 1000 currently about 2000 are applying per year.

I for one don’t see that as hordes in Ireland roughly 800,000 are not born here, most are legal with Polish the biggest group followed by UK at a guess total EU about 500000, then legal person working here at a guess 200000 to get a working permission salary must be over 30k and many jobs excluded.
People who have got refugee status less than 25,000

Then we have students that are needs further reform.

And finally illegals that is people who arrive illegally or become illegal, that number by its very nature is difficult to calculate. But any illegal should be deported.

BTW any person EU or non EU convicted of serious crimes will face deportation or removal at the end of sentence with the minister making the decision while they still in custody.