Man squeezes woman's boobs too hard - it ends up in court - should it have?

She said that he was hurting her and to stop. He said she told him to be more gentle.
Two sides to the story.

So he said, she said. So now the man was deemed to be a liar and is now on the sex offender's list with his professional career prospects in tatters. Does she feel like she got justice because of that?

DrPhilG wrote: »

"Hey, please stop squeezing my boobs so hard, I consider it to be a sexual assault.

However I am willing to excuse this sexual assault for the time being, please continue to have sex with me"

Seems legit.

Sorry folks but if I endure a sexual assault during the act of lovemaking I reckon I'd cease and desist all activities.

Instead she let him off with a warning (yeah coz that's what you do when someone is assaulting you) and then afterwards wanted to talk about it (coz that's what you do with your assailant).

This only went from a bad experience to an illegal one when he left abruptly.

You've never been in bed with someone who asked you to stop doing something, or to just not do it in the first place?

I know I have, but do you know what I did in those circumstances? I stopped doing it, I certainly didn't carry on regardless and leave them covered in bruises.

The real Dr. Phil would know the difference between doing something the other person didn't like unawares, and doing it anyway once it has been pointed out.

That my friend, is the difference between an awkward moment and a sexual assault. This wanker got no less than he deserved.

First off there are two wrongs here. He should have just reigned it in when she asked the first time. Secondly, and far worse, she reported him for using excessive force when she could have just said 'Its not my thing, so can you please leave'. The punishment does not fit the crime here, and I do wonder is there more to this than meets the eye.

It may be a case that she felt jilted by him and wanted to get him into some kind of trouble. Did she mean for it to go this far? As far as ruining his career?

She felt she was falling in love with him. She thought they were at the beginning of a relationship; a relationship she wanted to continue

Did the doctor stop returning her calls and texts? If a man hurt you so badly, why would you try to get him to return?

He then stormed out the door. She was in complete and utter shock and texted him, imploring him to return

That doesn't make sense to me. Nor does the severity of his punishment.

Ridiculous poll options so I didn't vote.

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

No.

He repeatedly injured her after he was asked to stop, ie consent was withdrawn.

I can only hope that anyone who thinks it's appropriate to injure a woman during sex, against her wishes, is some virgin who's been spending too much time on adult video sites.

It's assault, sure, but it's not sexual assault.

Sex was consensual, the physicality was not. To put a label of sexual predator on a person who had consensual sex but didn't give a damn about causing physical pain is stupid.

With a set of gnashers like that, she's lucky he didn't bite them.

9or10 wrote: »

Hardly a loss to the profession, if he doesn't know how hard is too hard.

They're not apples ffs.

melons?

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Well, if the complaint the degree of force used (which it is here) then yes I do. How else can we measure if someone has been too forceful otherwise.

I've mentioned the time I was jumped by scumbags. Knocked to the ground and had the **** kicked out of me. Only one thing needed medical attention and that's where they smashed a bottle over the back of my head.
According to your standards my bruised and swollen face wouldn't have counted as assault.

He sounds and looks like an absolute weirdo. He also acted mad aggressively by the sounds of it. Sex offender's list is some rough going, all the same.

"Grayson wrote:

In this case the woman told him not to, was in pain and was crying. He did it again and even caused bruising. He was obviously repeatedly using excessive force and doing something against her will. I'm definitely on her side with this.

The first time she said she felt pain, she didn't tell him. She moved position and carried on. He's not a mind reader. If she had gotten to the point of crying, why did I she still want him there?

They carried on and then she told him he was being rough. So, why is it that despite being hurt several times she never asked him to leave. In fact, she asked him to return? More curiously, decide make a report to the police later? The doctor wasn't coming back, assumably.

I will say one thing though, I don't know if this guy belongs on a sex offenders list. A conviction alone would have been enough.

We can agree on this point.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

only to suddenly feel the slimy, slippery head of a lubed up strap on dildo sliding its way between your butt cheeks while you're lying face down on her bed thinking she was just going to give you a blowjob, would you not be fairly appalled?

1 - how am I going to get a blowjob while lying face down on the bed?

2 - in your example, would it not be a bit daft if I receive this unexpected anal violation, object strenuously, put an end to said entry, continue on and have regular sex with this woman and then once she leaves, report her for assault?

Once sex changes to assault, you don't go back and finish the sex before you report the assault. It's ludicrous.

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Is your mickey at the back?

Mine is just a regular front mounted!:D

Generally they can be moved in different directions... Is mine more flexible than most?

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Ah here, you position yourself as someone who has more knowledge about such matters, compared to regular folk, and then you compare a man squeezing a woman's boobs harder than she'd have liked...... to being raped?? (which it would be if the guy had refused consent to such a sex act beforehand). Laughable.

So let me get this straight: The sex act in my example, when performed without consent, constitutes sexual assault - but the sex act in the article, when performed without consent, does not?

EVERY sex act is sexual assault in the absence of consent. There are certain sex acts which are considered part and parcel of consensual sexual activity, sure - unless one of the parties specifically states that they are not comfortable with that particular act, at which point it becomes non-consensual if the other party(s) ignores this and performs it anyway.

Since the pegging thing is obviously considered in a different category to everything else for whatever reason, let's go again. Supposing you've only consented to a vanilla sexual encounter, you explicitly told the other person that you wern't comfortable with facesitting, and they climb onto your face regardless. Is that legitimate sexual assault in your view?

Where do you draw the line, and why? It's so much simpler to just agree that any sex act which a person has explicitly stated they are not comfortable with is non-consensual if somebody ignores that statement and performs it anyway. The woman in this article told the guy she didn't want her breasts touched. Touching them after this fact constitutes a non-consensual sex act - no two ways about it.