Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

Lapmo_Dancer wrote: »

If you combine Germanwings and Eurowings to Lufthansa it brings them to 1011 arrivals.

SAS with 489 are actually ahead of UA

I'd actually love to see a full Lufthansa Group count, it must be astronomical

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Indo speculating PHL or SEA




It won't be much longer.

No aircraft to operate SEA since only a 757 will be free to operate a new route...

PHL is already operated by AA. whats the point on competition on a route with a future JV partner? I would see PIT happening quicker.

I am sure we will know soon which route or routes they will launch anyway.

I am surprised that the One World alliance plan was forgotten but probably it would be too costy to Aer Lingus.

Yeah, PHL already has AA, so would be a strange move. Vegas I can see working as there is definitely a lot of Irish people that holiday in Vegas (especially around McGregor fights etc).

There was talk a while back about flights to Texas, either Dallas Fort Worth or Houston. Both big business centres... Something like that might make more sense. Mid-west and Southern Central US states are not serviced by Dublin at all.

Deleted User wrote: »

Huh ? I thought EI had a new 330 due in next few months and another due next year ?

330 arriving in December will take the IAD route. The current 330 that operates MCO will operate MIA too (opposite days).

so only a 757 will be free to operate a new route (if there is any).

a350 not arriving next year, as already mentioned on this forum.

Hmm a spare 757 will be around with IAD going 330, I'd say east coast. If following the rumours it'll be PIT or PHL but only time will tell.

Current schedules have IAD split (4x330, 3x752), 4 weekly 752 slot while 3 weekly 330 is for tech cover like normal.

No midweek 330's to Faro next summer. Appears to be Saturday only.

Tenger wrote: »

Seems odd to me with AA already on the route. But I'm sure EI are looking at their available resources and the demand in each market.

Pre IAG it would of made sense just like going back to EWR. Given it will likely be only 4 weekly B752 it should do well for them.

The whole AA JV is off the table or at least it was (last year) because of EI's cost structure and how integrating it would have problems and potentially rise costs for them. Walsh said it might happen at some stage but there was no rush.

Bussywussy wrote: »

Its looking late november for the new 330,its going straight into storage til march 1st

Wasting 4 months of the 12 month guarantee

Seriously why not

Use it to service other aircraft
Lease it out to the likes of Quantas who will be hitting peak at that time
AIG use it (credits/hire)

joeysoap wrote: »

Wasting 4 months of the 12 month guarantee

Seriously why not

Use it to service other aircraft
Lease it out to the likes of Quantas who will be hitting peak at that time
AIG use it (credits/hire)

Because there is no real market to lease it out. It's likely it may operate between Jan-Mar when some heavy maintenance is carried out.

Bussywussy wrote: »

Thought same, apparently not,staying in storage... something to do with depreciation value etc....way above any rational thinking

I see.

They only start depreciation when it goes into use, it does sort of make sense not to use it until 2018.

Been fair Q1 is a bad period for T/A so unless they need it, makes complete sense to store it until activity picks up in March.

kevinandrew wrote: »

Could it be taken out of storage relatively quickly if an A330 goes tech? I know there's more slack in the winter schedule but it would shut up the critics who repeat "why don't they have a spare" over and over. 

Why did they (IAG) accept a delivery slot in late November when there was no work required for it? Surely an airline group with such a large order book could have arranged something, it's not like you see Iberia or British Airways storing brand new aircraft for months at a time post delivery.

No. There are different levels of storage programs, long term or short term with renewal to cover periods from seven days to many months and the requirements are different for each program but depending on which program you choose and how far you are into it you may require a bit of notice to get it out of storage and into service. Depends also where it's been kept in storage, if it's in TLS they might be geared up for returning aircraft to service quickly but it could easily take a couple of days or more to plan and carry out all the maintenance tasks involved.

Bussywussy wrote: »

Its looking late november for the new 330,its going straight into storage til march 1st

If they don't fly it until next year, they don't have to tax it and can get it on a 181D plate