Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

Dardania

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Bussywussy wrote: »

Its looking late november for the new 330,its going straight into storage til march 1st

If they don't fly it until next year, they don't have to tax it and can get it on a 181D plate

Sometime in 2018:

https://www.facebook.com/669740766565298/photos/a.669746649898043.1073741828.669740766565298/674898656049509/?type=3&theater

AoifeOCaa

Will we be waiting on one or two new more routes to 2018 from Aer Lingus on Wednesday? travelbiz mentions a 2nd route but doesnt mention if it will be an Aer Lingus or not/ when ... http://travelbiz.ie/newsstory/Breaking_News_-_Aer_Lingus_to_announce_new_transatlantic_route

L1011

AoifeOCaa wrote: »

Will we be waiting on one or two new more routes to 2018 from Aer Lingus on Wednesday? travelbiz mentions a 2nd route but doesnt mention if it will be an Aer Lingus or not/ when ... http://travelbiz.ie/newsstory/Breaking_News_-_Aer_Lingus_to_announce_new_transatlantic_route

My reading is that the second route is not EI. Its probably the Hainan Beijing route.

So PHL or PIT (probably PHL) from EI on Wednesday; Beijing on Hainan. Partially to serve their own staff in Avolon!

It’s philly being announced

AoifeOCaa

L1011 wrote: »

My reading is that the second route is not EI. Its probably the Hainan Beijing route.

So PHL or PIT (probably PHL) from EI on Wednesday; Beijing on Hainan. Partially to serve their own staff in Avolon!

"By the way Travelbiz can exclusively report a second NEW TRANSATLANTIC route is in the pipeline!"

Beijjing isn't a Transtlantic route..... that's the reason why I thought it could be Aer Lingus launching this second route.

Any new regarding the 757s? will they be replaced by the 321LR or their leasing licenses will be extended?

Downsey77

joeysoap wrote: »

No midweek 330's to Faro next summer. Appears to be Saturday only.

Will AGP still have the A330 midweek as per this summer?

john boye

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It’s philly being announced

Haven't EI announced Philly a couple of times before in years past without the route ever actually starting?

john boye

john boye wrote: »

Haven't EI announced Philly a couple of times before in years past without the route ever actually starting?

Not that I am aware of

Captain_Crash

Deleted User wrote: »

Not that I am aware of

I read only yesterday that they previously announced it in the late 70's and again in the late 80'.

goingnowhere

No chance of Baltimore...

Some of the choices may seem a bit strange but bear in mind Aer Lingus has visibility (or had in the case of KLM) on the vast majority of passengers making connections in LHR/LGW/MAN/AMS from Dublin so know where people are coming to and from even if the ticket was sold by UA, BA, VS or a whole stack of other carriers as EI did the short haul leg on their behalf

With Air Berlin (EI serve HAM/DUS/FRA/MUC) and with Alitalia also on the way out a huge new market has opened up for EI to grab if they can move quickly and offer connections

Jamie2k9

As expected 4 weekly PHL on B757-200.

DUB-PHL
13.50-16.15
PHL-DUB
17.30-05.10+1

Sunday, Monday, Wednesday & Friday.

Commences 26 March 2018

joeysoap

AL have any interest in Monarch A320/321 aircraft ? I believe that EJ have been active in the pilot market since Monarch folded.

alancostello

joeysoap wrote: »

AL have any interest in Monarch A320/321 aircraft ? I believe that EJ have been active in the pilot market since Monarch folded.

They’re all leased so will be returned to the lessors if they haven’t been already. The a320s are of the right engine type to be considered, but the a321s are IAE V2500 not CFM56 so unlikely.

Locker10a

joeysoap wrote: »

AL have any interest in Monarch A320/321 aircraft ? I believe that EJ have been active in the pilot market since Monarch folded.

My understanding is any acquisition of new aircraft and expansions would have to go through IAG? Although I could be wrong.  IAG seem to deal with aircraft orders and leases and assigned them to the respective airlines based on business needs

Tenger

joeysoap wrote: »

AL have any interest in Monarch A320/321 aircraft ? I believe that EJ have been active in the pilot market since Monarch folded.

A mate showed me a tweet from EI, they have an open day in Manchester for ex-Monarch A320 flight crew.

L1011

Its not uncommon to use different engines on the 320/321 in the same airline; and they're going to get PWs on the 321LRs anyway so they're going to lose single engine commonality. However, they do order what are now very obscure engines on 330s so it may be highly valued.

Anyway, there are always 32x craft available for lease - this isn't a huge release. 35 craft, some rather old, out of nearly 8000 built is not majorly significant.

Dardania

Tenger wrote: »

joeysoap wrote: »

AL have any interest in Monarch A320/321 aircraft ? I believe that EJ have been active in the pilot market since Monarch folded.

A mate showed me a tweet from EI, they have an open day in Manchester for ex-Monarch A320 flight crew.

This one: https://twitter.com/AerLingus/status/914886892436549632
Seems people are replying to it too with interest

alancostello

L1011 wrote: »

Its not uncommon to use different engines on the 320/321 in the same airline; and they're going to get PWs on the 321LRs anyway so they're going to lose single engine commonality.

Even if they went with CFM for these it’s still a different engine, the LEAP may be developed from technology used in the CFM56, but it’s not the same thing.

L1011

True - they also had substantially different versions of the CFMs between the 737 classics and the 320s when they had the mixed short haul fleet. Engine commonality isn't the be all and end all, as the ASL 757s show!

Word on the street is EI have an shown an interest in Air Berlin’s 330’s again different engine type to current fleet.

alancostello

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Word on the street is EI have an shown an interest in Air Berlin’s 330’s again different engine type to current fleet.

Eurowings have already confirmed to be taking 6 of them, with Malaysia set to take the remainder

alancostello

alancostello wrote: »

Eurowings have already confirmed to be taking 6 of them, with Malaysia set to take the remainder

Well that kicks that rumour in to touch then.

alancostello

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well that kicks that rumour in to touch then.

Beyond that they only ever used -200s which I doubt EI would be after given their last few deliveries. I’d say IAG might have been looking at them for LEVEL if anything.

HTCOne

alancostello wrote: »

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Well that kicks that rumour in to touch then.

Beyond that they only ever used -200s which I doubt EI would be after given their last few deliveries. I’d say IAG might have been looking at them for LEVEL if anything.

They're all owned by GECAS, so I'm sure there was a bit of scrambling by them to get new takers. Nobody wants that number of widebodies sitting idle.

basill

"Showing an interest" and ponying up with the cash for the 330s are two completely different things. A couple of years ago we had engineers down in India looking over parked up 330s. Nothing ever eventuated.

duskyjoe

basill wrote: »

"Showing an interest" and ponying up with the cash for the 330s are two completely different things. A couple of years ago we had engineers down in India looking over parked up 330s. Nothing ever eventuated.

Beats me why they'd have an interest in high hours frames with pratts. Not a very popular eng choice on the 330.

Captain_Crash

duskyjoe wrote: »

Beats me why they'd have an interest in high hours frames with pratts. Not a very popular eng choice on the 330.

Dont the Pratts burn a higher than designed amount of fuel too

alancostello

Captain_Crash wrote: »

Dont the Pratts burn a higher than designed amount of fuel too

They do, but they also have better hot and high performance, and offered ISA+15 at the time, which the CF6 did not, for EI ops the CF6 offered better economics and satisfied any technical requirements.

duskyjoe

Alan can the Pratt’s give as much poke as the CF6 under ‘bump’ take off thrust ? Have to say the CF6 is an incredible power plant.

ohigg84

Deleted User wrote: »

Word on the street is EI have an shown an interest in Air Berlin’s 330’s again different engine type to current fleet.

My dad told me a week ago that he was talking to an Aer Lingus pilot, and rumour was we (EI) were interested in taking 2 332's.

But then P&W wouldn't fit in with the other CF6 powered 332's /333s.