Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

Bussywussy

duskyjoe wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/aerlingus/status/904268598125801472

Here ya go!! I must be getting old but it's just lost on me the joker stuff. Hope the route is winner as MIA is so important as a gateway to the south

Look at The first reply ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜

Locker10a

Bussywussy wrote: »

duskyjoe wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/aerlingus/status/904268598125801472

Here ya go!! I must be getting old but it's just lost on me the joker stuff. Hope the route is winner as MIA is so important as a gateway to the south

Look at The first reply ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜

lol same moaning on every airlines social media pages

Tenger

True, but it still made me laugh!

NH2013

Talk on another's thread over on PPRuNe of IAG sourcing 2 A321NEOs (non LR) for EI for summer 2018 to compete with Norwegian on Atlantic routes. Anyone heard any talk of this or if there's truth to it?

What sort of range would a standard A321Neo with only 2 ACTs have versus a 3 ACT 321NEO-LR?

JCX BXC

NH2013 wrote: »

Talk on another's thread over on PPRuNe of IAG sourcing 2 A321NEOs (non LR) for EI for summer 2018 to compete with Norwegian on Atlantic routes. Anyone heard any talk of this or if there's truth to it!

What sort of range would a standard A321Neo with only 2 ACTs have versus a 3 ACT 321NEO-LR?

EI aren't normally one for entering head to heads, I had a very quick glance over on PPRuNe and couldn't find this chat, could you link it?

NH2013

JCX BXC wrote: »

EI aren't normally one for entering head to heads, I had a very quick glance over on PPRuNe and couldn't find this chat, could you link it?

http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports-routes/259153-cork-5-a-305.html#post9881278

JCX BXC

NH2013 wrote: »

http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports-routes/259153-cork-5-a-305.html#post9881278

Eh doesn't really say that they're looking. It would be an interesting development if they did.

I stopped reading alot on PPRUNE as I find most of it is baseless speculation as opposed to actual information, gets a bit tiring to read. The moderation is also shocking, here we complain about too much modding but on PPRUNE it's totally different, people get away with alot of sniping.

Hopefully this has some basis to it, would be good to see. However I'm not hopeful.

Jamie2k9

I don't see it happening....

Locker10a

JCX BXC wrote: »

NH2013 wrote: »

Talk on another's thread over on PPRuNe of IAG sourcing 2 A321NEOs (non LR) for EI for summer 2018 to compete with Norwegian on Atlantic routes. Anyone heard any talk of this or if there's truth to it!

What sort of range would a standard A321Neo with only 2 ACTs have versus a 3 ACT 321NEO-LR?

EI aren't normally one for entering head to heads, I had a very quick glance over on PPRuNe and couldn't find this chat, could you link it?

No they mightn't go head to head but an increase in frequency on routes, like offering an early JFK and possible BOS could be a good way at clawing back market share and attracting business and higher yielding traffic

St. Leibowitz

Captain_Crash wrote: »

However, the crew mentioned nothing about the water cannon salute upon arrival and a few people got scared thinking we were on fire (no joke)

Don't think the crew knew about the water cannon salute ... cockpit windows were open with Irish and US flags flying ... there was water ingress.

Locker10a

St. Leibowitz wrote: »

Captain_Crash wrote: »

However, the crew mentioned nothing about the water cannon salute upon arrival and a few people got scared thinking we were on fire (no joke)

Don't think the crew knew about the water cannon salute ... cockpit windows were open with Irish and US flags flying ... there was water ingress.

Oh dear... pretty poor communication if true

NH2013

NH2013 wrote: »

Talk on another's thread over on PPRuNe of IAG sourcing 2 A321NEOs (non LR) for EI for summer 2018 to compete with Norwegian on Atlantic routes. Anyone heard any talk of this or if there's truth to it?

What sort of range would a standard A321Neo with only 2 ACTs have versus a 3 ACT 321NEO-LR?

On the second question, anybody know an answer or where to go about finding it?

Read on A.net that they carry about 5,000kg more, so 26% more fuel and the NEO is 18% more efficient than the CEO, so would be about 48% more range all things being equal, but not sure how much the the burn penalty of carrying the extra fuel would end up burning.

Would be interesting to see if a NEO could actually make it to NY or BOS even if there's nothing behind the rumours?

L1011

They can certainly make it - its what level of payload they can do it with that's the important factor here. EI also carry cargo on many routes, so that's something to factor in to overall route profitability if they can't do so due to payload limitations.

Locker10a

L1011 wrote: »

They can certainly make it - its what level of payload they can do it with that's the important factor here. EI also carry cargo on many routes, so that's something to factor in to overall route profitability if they can't do so due to payload limitations.

But would cargo or lack of it matter if these craft just did and extra flight on routes currently served by A330?

goingnowhere

Well if you put the A321's to Shannon that might address some of the range concerns, but how much freight comes in via SNN? Presumably the A321 Neo is considered same type from the pilot/cabin crew point of view so no extra training required if current on A319/20/21 family

Then you have all 757's in Dublin which helps with scheduling and optimises utilisation

Captain_Crash

St. Leibowitz wrote: »

Don't think the crew knew about the water cannon salute ... cockpit windows were open with Irish and US flags flying ... there was water ingress.

Bad comms if true, although I could see the fire engines waiting before we exited the runway so I'd have presumed the flight crew could also see them

Skuxx

A330 EI-DUZ has been on the ground here in Malaga all day, showing on the screens as a 22.00 est departure. Wonder is it a similar issue to earlier in the week!

JCX BXC

Skuxx wrote: »

A330 EI-DUZ has been on the ground here in Malaga all day, showing on the screens as a 22.00 est departure. Wonder is it a similar issue to earlier in the week!

Eventually took off at 23:30,

16:10 flight to JFK cancelled at a result.

adam88

Where do the a321 fly to

Tenger

adam88 wrote: »

Where do the a321 fly to

Any short haul route might see the A321, I think they are usually on longer EU sectors.

Tenger

Looking at EI website just now, they have rescheduled their DUB-MIA-DUB service today. Obviously trying to get out before it gets too bad;
https://www.aerlingus.com/support/flight-disruption-information/

I would assume the flights to Florida over the weekend might get cancelled.
The notice only mentions the Sunday MIA flight.

goingnowhere

adam88 wrote: »

Where do the a321 fly to

A321 can go anywhere, its demand based so get allocated based on where seats are needed.

Currently likely to be found on bucket and spade and other holiday routes

It would take a miracle to see one in Cork, Shannon or Belfast on a scheduled service

LXFlyer

Mainly Faro, Malaga, Rome, Venice but can appear anywhere.

highlydebased

goingnowhere wrote:

It would take a miracle to see one in Cork, Shannon or Belfast on a scheduled service

Often appears at Shannon or Cork over Christmas

JCX BXC

highlydebased wrote: »

Often appears at Shannon or Cork over Christmas

Don't recall ever seeing one in SNN, pretty common in ORK over Christmas.

AndyBoBandy

I did an A321 DUB-MAN a year or 2 ago, was packed with Pax connecting through MAN

kevinandrew

goingnowhere wrote: »

adam88 wrote: »

Where do the a321 fly to

A321 can go anywhere, its demand based so get allocated based on where seats are needed.

Currently likely to be found on bucket and spade and other holiday routes

It would take a miracle to see one in Cork, Shannon or Belfast on a scheduled service

The A321 used to be a regular on ORK-LHR, it operated solely on it for a number of years. If AMS see's a drop in connecting passengers I think we're likely to see it return or they'll make the 5th daily rotation a regular.

Heard rumours of mood lightning to being on the track for airbus fleet with aer lingus, can't say for definite though.

The entire Airbus fleet? Or just the A330? 

I think the A320 fleet is long overdue a cabin update, it's smart but bland and lacks any identity. The new Ryanair cabin has a certain wow factor despite still being very tacky in my opinion. If IAG want to standardise their fleet the Aer Lingus short haul aircraft will need a refit as they're now in a lower density than the other carriers in the group.

Van.Bosch

kevinandrew wrote: »

The A321 used to be a regular on ORK-LHR, it operated solely on it for a number of years. If AMS see's a drop in connecting passengers I think we're likely to see it return or they'll make the 5th daily rotation a regular.


The entire Airbus fleet? Or just the A330? 

I think the A320 fleet is long overdue a cabin update, it's smart but bland and lacks any identity. The new Ryanair cabin has a certain wow factor despite still being very tacky in my opinion. If IAG want to standardise their fleet the Aer Lingus short haul aircraft will need a refit as they're now in a lower density than the other carriers in the group.

When IAG talk of standardising the fleet they don't necessarily mean the same seating config. They mean same cockpit, toilets, galleys etc. The layout of seats can be different, I think I saw a slide which said with this it would then only take a week to adjust seating and move to a sister airline. So in the standard fleet you could have an EI A320 with 150 seats and an Iberia with 6 business and 130 economy

highlydebased

JCX BXC wrote:

Don't recall ever seeing one in SNN, pretty common in ORK over Christmas.

Happens most years having been on it myself most times!

Captain_Crash

Tenger wrote: »

I might like aviation but you would have to give me some reward for being on an aircraft for ~18 hours out of 24!!!

I actually wanted to try SQ on SIN-EWR before it ended because of it beingn18hrs. But it was an all business class config and I never had the cash to buy a ticket