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gormdubhgorm · 24-09-2017 11:56PM

To be honest I have stopped listening to OTB for about 2 weeks now.
I am starting to feel healthier already!
But strangely I find this thread entertaining there is a lot more in depth discussion on here both positive and negative.

With a good bit of humour in it.
I am starting to think if some posters got together from this thread they would have a great podcast. Especially with diametrically opposed opinions.

Plus I know what the different posters views on the show are at this stage so if there is something worth listening to or out of the ordinary I will put on a podcast.

Otherwise the show was starting to feel like the path to freedom in the film 'Shawshank Redemption'

"Andy Dufresne, the man who crawled through 500 yards of sh*t and came out clean the other end"

ballsymchugh · 25-09-2017 12:38AM

Faugheen wrote: »

I really get the impression that some people in this forum just hate everything and anything to do with radio. Same few people bitching and moaning about the same shows. Yawn.

Someone actually had a go at Joe Molloy for pronouncing the 'h' in Thomas. Jesus Christ some of you must be great craic at parties.

have you ever seen Joe being corrected on twitter, or even better, heard it on the radio? fair enough, people occasionally get things wrong, but he takes a correction very badly. it's like someone just shot a puppy in front of his face, to the point that it's actually funny seeing him taking it so bad.
if you told him he was pronouncing Thomas wrong, he'd probably cry.

PeterTheNinth · 25-09-2017 06:56AM

Imhof Tank wrote: »

Unbelievable lack of awareness from Hogan I thought. Totally inflated sense of the importance of the media - i think a few texters to the show made this point.

That Vincent Hogan bit was repeated this morning on the 6am-6.30am slot. He said that he was at a press conference in 2013, and Cluxton was there. Hogan posed a question about the threat of the Kerry forwards, and he said that Cluxton snapped back "I don't know about the Kerry forwards, I wasn't marking any of them". His argument was more with the demeanour and tone of the responses, moreso than the content.

Jayesdiem · 25-09-2017 07:21AM

ballsymchugh wrote: »

Faugheen wrote: »

I really get the impression that some people in this forum just hate everything and anything to do with radio. Same few people bitching and moaning about the same shows. Yawn.

Someone actually had a go at Joe Molloy for pronouncing the 'h' in Thomas. Jesus Christ some of you must be great craic at parties.

have you ever seen Joe being corrected on twitter, or even better, heard it on the radio? fair enough, people occasionally get things wrong, but he takes a correction very badly. it's like someone just shot a puppy in front of his face, to the point that it's actually funny seeing him taking it so bad.
if you told him he was pronouncing Thomas wrong, he'd probably cry.

Part of the problem is Joe's sheer arrogance. On that show he was discussing the issue of Colm Cooper's money-making testimonial dinner and if I can be allowed to paraphrase said:

The dinner isn't a clear cut right/wrong issue, it's one of those issues people need to come to their own conclusions on.

The issue is actually that people need to come to their own opinions of right and wrong for every issue in life Joe - from the most serious to the most trivial. Moral code isn't scrawled on the walls of some ancient cave somewhere and because you think it is, you impose that belief on everybody else.

Californeeway · 25-09-2017 08:15AM

Paul Kimmage refusing to let Joe read out listeners texts showed similar disdain to Jim Gavin’s I thought.

Beechwoodspark · 25-09-2017 07:24PM

Since 8 we've had an in depth discussion of trump and the NFL.

foxtrot101 · 25-09-2017 08:32PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Since 8 we've had an in depth discussion of trump and the NFL.

That was always going to happen. SC spent 44 minutes of there their 67 minute general podcast on it. It's a big enough story...why not?

elefant · 26-09-2017 06:16AM

foxtrot101 wrote: »

That was always going to happen. SC spent 44 minutes of there their 67 minute general podcast on it. It's a big enough story...why not?

Because liberals and we're edgy etc.

yosser hughes · 26-09-2017 06:34AM

foxtrot101 wrote: »

That was always going to happen. SC spent 44 minutes of there their 67 minute general podcast on it. It's a big enough story...why not?

Because it's overkill maybe?

foxtrot101 · 26-09-2017 12:58PM

yosser hughes wrote: »

Because it's overkill maybe?

Or maybe not. It's a matter of opinion.

monstermag · 26-09-2017 09:39PM

foxtrot101 wrote: »

Or maybe not. It's a matter of opinion.

It's sports related so it should be discussed, but what bothers me is they don't get a wide range of opinions on the matter. They had a journalist on from sports illustrated who clearly supported the players. Where was the balance in that considering the vast majority of Americans disagree with players taking the knee. Surely they could track down another contributor with a different view. Get a proper debate going.

Raoul · 26-09-2017 10:42PM

monstermag wrote: »

It's sports related so it should be discussed, but what bothers me is they don't get a wide range of opinions on the matter. They had a journalist on from sports illustrated who clearly supported the players. Where was the balance in that considering the vast majority of Americans disagree with players taking the knee. Surely they could track down another contributor with a different view. Get a proper debate going.

I am not sure if this is true?

I would be interested in them having someone on though that would have an opposing view. Would make for interesting radio.

monstermag · 26-09-2017 11:01PM

Raoul wrote: »

I am not sure if this is true?

I would be interested in them having someone on though that would have an opposing view. Would make for interesting radio.

I came across a poll conducted by Remington research group, they found that 2/3 of Americans believe they should stand for the anthem. Take what u will from that, u could probably find another poll stating the exact opposite. My gut tells me most Americans disagree with the players.

yosser hughes · 27-09-2017 07:00AM

Raoul wrote: »

I am not sure if this is true?

I would be interested in them having someone on though that would have an opposing view. Would make for interesting radio.

well given that the coverage is so one sided this side of the Atlantic you're not likely to know either.

Raoul · 27-09-2017 08:48AM

yosser hughes wrote: »

well given that the coverage is so one sided this side of the Atlantic you're not likely to know either.

I am a big American football fan and I have watched coverage over there. ESPN had a good 20 minutes dedicated to it.

I did notice there was some booing at the stadiums even in Gillette (Boston), which is a liberal area. They booed the players but I didn't see anywhere that it was a majority of people doing this.

Anyway, it would be good to have guys on that disagree with the panel.

ghostdancer · 27-09-2017 10:31AM

monstermag wrote: »

I came across a poll conducted by Remington research group, they found that 2/3 of Americans believe they should stand for the anthem. Take what u will from that, u could probably find another poll stating the exact opposite. My gut tells me most Americans disagree with the players.

my gut tells me most Americans are morons.

pc7 · 27-09-2017 01:18PM

I thought it was interesting that DoD have been paying since 2009 for big flags etc at games as a recruitment drive.

Lt Dan · 27-09-2017 01:40PM

Raoul wrote: »

I am a big American football fan and I have watched coverage over there. ESPN had a good 20 minutes dedicated to it.

I did notice there was some booing at the stadiums even in Gillette (Boston), which is a liberal area. They booed the players but I didn't see anywhere that it was a majority of people doing this.

Anyway, it would be good to have guys on that disagree with the panel.

I got listening to Joe on the NFL segment, in fairness, it was decent radio

I struggled with that liberal Boston thing, and Irish Americans all vote Democrats (I know he was referring to Boston)

Eh, hello, this is the same city that was the center of the bussing riots in the late 1970-1980s with black kids and the white urban flight. This city , especially in basketball circles was considered a bit on the racist side (Loads of black people have major issues with all white teams but say little about all black teams, when I say little, I mean, they say nothing) Bill Russell , despite being a Boston legend got tones of abuse from Bostonians when he took a stand politically in the 1960s

Lt Dan · 27-09-2017 01:43PM

ghostdancer wrote: »

my gut tells me most Americans are morons.

How those morons remotely link a protest about the unsatisfaction of a sizeable minority and how they feel that they are treated by Authorities, has got anything remotely connected to disprespecting the army.

They are beyond morons. Loons. How on earth have these people being able to control the world for so long.

It has nothing to do with disrespecting the military and those that died for Freedom

. Freedom , ah yes, Vietnam was about American Freedom, the Gulf Wars were about American Freedom .

pc7 · 27-09-2017 01:47PM

A little O\T but in relation to black America 13th on Netflix worth a look. I'd be deeply troubled if I was an African American living in the US. I can see why some have taken the knee in protest (before Trumps words the weekend).

foxtrot101 · 27-09-2017 04:41PM

monstermag wrote: »

I came across a poll conducted by Remington research group, they found that 2/3 of Americans believe they should stand for the anthem. Take what u will from that, u could probably find another poll stating the exact opposite. My gut tells me most Americans disagree with the players.

Yes, but it's a racial issue. I suspect a poll of all white people would give you very different results to a poll of all black people. Since white people make up 73.6% of the population the results of a general poll are going to be skewed.

monstermag · 27-09-2017 08:45PM

pc7 wrote: »

A little O\T but in relation to black America 13th on Netflix worth a look. I'd be deeply troubled if I was an African American living in the US. I can see why some have taken the knee in protest (before Trumps words the weekend).

Should they be taking the knee on the American tax payers dollar? There's a lot more ways of highlighting inequality, in my opinion this protest is only causing more division.

davef1000 · 27-09-2017 09:20PM

How many US tax dollars are paying football player's salaries?

Ol' Donie · 27-09-2017 09:52PM

monstermag wrote: »

Should they be taking the knee on the American tax payers dollar? There's a lot more ways of highlighting inequality, in my opinion this protest is only causing more division.

What tax payers dollar?

monstermag · 27-09-2017 10:36PM

Ol' Donie wrote: »

What tax payers dollar?

When u boil it down, it's the fans who pay the players wage, by buying tickets and merchandise.

hullaballoo · 27-09-2017 10:38PM

I'm at a loss for words.

monstermag · 27-09-2017 10:42PM

hullaballoo wrote: »

I'm at a loss for words.

With regards to what?

davef1000 · 27-09-2017 10:47PM

monstermag wrote: »

With regards to what?

WRT the stupidity of that comment, I'd imagine.

Ol' Donie · 27-09-2017 10:47PM

monstermag wrote: »

When u boil it down, it's the fans who pay the players wage, by buying tickets and merchandise.

I'm not sure the phrase "taxpayer's dollar" refers to disposable income.

For f*ck sake.

monstermag · 27-09-2017 11:22PM

davef1000 wrote: »

WRT the stupidity of that comment, I'd imagine.

Tax payers fund the stadiums. As a former tax payer in that Country I don't want the NFL shoving that crap down my throat. It started out as a protest against police brutality, but now it's morphed into something else, I don't think even the players know what's it about at this stage.

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