Playstation Clan clean up/migrations/management

Mitch Connor · 15-09-2017 8:56am

jcd5971 wrote: »

I have left community and won't be going back without notifications its a dealbreaker, I know others who have told me the same but its not my place to name them here so I wont, so there was destiny clan website that has instant notifications, started to get traction and then was closed today again without the slighest hint of discussion, a bit infuriating really.

so as i was tight on time and no way to guarantee people even seen the post,
i ended up having to go lfg to complete a exotic quest. the 2nd week the game comes out in a clan thats so big we cant have a message chat i end up using lfg .... yep congrats lads working as intended alright.

So, after all the negatives - what is your suggested solution? What would you do to solve this apparently deal braking issue of notifications being broken?

Riesen_Meal · 15-09-2017 9:05am

Believe me lads and lassies, I just want something that works for all, and unfortunately I don't think Boards app or boards notifications is the solution either, we have all been chatting about all of this in the background to see what we could do and this is literally all we can do for now...

The days of Generic/other admins having to friend literally over 200 people so they can add them into the chat so we can all see the notifications are gone, if we were under 100 people that would be fine, but we aren't...

If you feel leaving the community page and Clan is what you want to do then it's fine, you are welcome to do so...

I'm hoping when we ALL get Firmware 5.0 things may improve regarding functionality of communities...

I actually had to downgrade my firmware yesterday in order to even have a game of Destiny 2

Mitch Connor · 15-09-2017 9:08am

actually - can a mod move these communities discussion posts to a new thread. It isn't general destiny talk, and I'm gonna guess the xbox lads have zero interest in hearing about our problems trying to get the clans talking to each other.

Riesen_Meal · 15-09-2017 9:10am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

actually - can a mod move these communities discussion posts to a new thread. It isn't general destiny talk, and I'm gonna guess the xbox lads have zero interest in hearing about our problems trying to get the clans talking to each other.

Good idea actually, sorry Xbox lads, this is PS nonsense...

Mickeroo · 15-09-2017 9:14am

Fieldog wrote: »

Good idea actually, sorry Xbox lads, this is PS nonsense...

Hah I was actually in the middle of doing it when Mitch suggested it

Mitch Connor · 15-09-2017 9:32am

All Clan Members Native PS App In Game notifications Mobile Notifications
PSN Messages No. Yes Yes Yes
Communities Yes Yes Not working Not working
Boards Yes No No. Maybe?
Discord Yes No No Yes

Thats the state of play as far as I see it - anyone have any suggestions on what we can do?

TitianGerm · 15-09-2017 9:34am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

actually - can a mod move these communities discussion posts to a new thread. It isn't general destiny talk, and I'm gonna guess the xbox lads have zero interest in hearing about our problems trying to get the clans talking to each other.

We have a WhatsApp for the Xbox side. Theres 32 in it so far with 70 in the clan. We stuck a link to the WhatsApp on the clan page and put an expiry on the link. If anyone wants to join now they just need to PM one of the Admins on Boards or Bungie.

So far it's working well and there's a bit of craic going. Maybe you'd could try it? Only add those who actually want to be added like we did.

Mickeroo · 15-09-2017 9:39am

If people aren't comfortable sharing phone numbers then Discord looks like the most practical solution outside of watsapp to me.

It's very handy and you can set up as many servers as you like (crucible, raid, patrol,whatever) and people can join whichever they want. Generate a permanent invite link and I'll edit it into the OP of this and the other clan thread.

Just my two cents, obviously doesn't solve the issue of no notifications on the console.

Kimbot · 15-09-2017 9:44am

Fieldog wrote: »

What do you suggest then for a group of over 200 people where they can chat and set up LFG type stuff that is preferably on the console you are playing on?

I'm all ears, as if we got a solution to this, great, we don't at the moment, so we need to go with what we have, that's the boat we are in!

I know communities isn't great, I never said it was, but we genuinely have no other option for now, and we can't go back to trying to juggle around 200 people into PS messages

Well TBH fielddog, I havent seen much of it but isnt there a clan chat thing through the bungie/destiny app now? Altho I just checked it and cant find it anymore

To me that was thriving because I was getting plenty of notifications from it so maybe use that in conjunction with community but as it stands right now the community is actually useless. I havent gamed with any of the usual lads I would jump on with etc and thats solely down to the chat been shut down. I also think JCD does have a valid point that all things to do with the boards destiny clan should be discussed openly on boards first and foremost and not just hidden away in the background and users just told hey do this as this is what we have decided you do.

Kimbot · 15-09-2017 9:48am

Fieldog wrote: »

Believe me lads and lassies, I just want something that works for all, and unfortunately I don't think Boards app or boards notifications is the solution either, we have all been chatting about all of this in the background to see what we could do and this is literally all we can do for now...

The days of Generic/other admins having to friend literally over 200 people so they can add them into the chat so we can all see the notifications are gone, if we were under 100 people that would be fine, but we aren't...

If you feel leaving the community page and Clan is what you want to do then it's fine, you are welcome to do so...

I'm hoping when we ALL get Firmware 5.0 things may improve regarding functionality of communities...

I actually had to downgrade my firmware yesterday in order to even have a game of Destiny 2

Sorry FD but who exactly have made these decisions and had these discussions in the background??

Fair enough that you dont think its the solution but the right thing to do is to open a discussion with the community which never occured, things were done in the background and people were told to migrate or whatever, nobody was given a choice so that throws the "community" element out the window and puts it more in the ould dictatorship bracket.

Riesen_Meal · 15-09-2017 9:52am

jonnycivic wrote: »

Well TBH fielddog, I havent seen much of it but isnt there a clan chat thing through the bungie/destiny app now? Altho I just checked it and cant find it anymore

To me that was thriving because I was getting plenty of notifications from it so maybe use that in conjunction with community but as it stands right now the community is actually useless. I havent gamed with any of the usual lads I would jump on with etc and thats solely down to the chat been shut down. I also think JCD does have a valid point that all things to do with the boards destiny clan should be discussed openly on boards first and foremost and not just hidden away in the background and users just told hey do this as this is what we have decided you do.

That chat within the Destiny app was just for whatever Clan you are with though, it doesn't include the other clan so it's well and good using that when others from the other clan's can't see it or interact with it... (which is what leads us back to the initial problem with it also!)

It's not our fault the way the this is set up on PSN, we want EVERYONE included, not just Clan 1 chat on Bungie app, and Clan 2 don't get a look in and vice versa...

Kimbot · 15-09-2017 9:53am

Fieldog wrote: »

That chat within the Destiny app was just for whatever Clan you are with though, it doesn't include the other clan so it's well and good using that when others from the other clan's can't see it or interact with it... (which is what leads us back to the initial problem with it also!)

It's not our fault the way the this is set up on PSN, we want EVERYONE included, not just Clan 1 chat on Bungie app, and Clan 2 don't get a look in and vice versa...

Who is this "We"??

roadie_2013 · 15-09-2017 9:54am

Hey all,

I am new to the clan so I hope ye don't mind me offering an opinion on the whole messages issue.

I can easily understand why the approach to use communities was taken - as it was the only option when it came to being all inclusive and having it on the PS. However, as it has already been pointed out, it does not work as expected. Since joining the clan and the community page I have never received any notifications from either app on phone or on the PS - despite having both of them switched on. Unless you have the phone in your hand and are constantly refreshing you end up missing posts.

My personal preference would be to use Discord but I can appreciate this is not everyone's preference. I use it daily already. Notifications can be switched on and off very easily for different channels on the server so you would receive instant notifications for anything that may be going on. Granted you would have to use your phone but as it stands you have to do that already to use something that is inferior.
It is quite possible the majority have the app downloaded already. I am sure not everyone had the communities app downloaded when they joined and had to do so.

Riesen_Meal · 15-09-2017 9:55am

jonnycivic wrote: »

Who is this "We"??

We as in the Clan, we want everyone included, if there is 10 clans it would be the same, I don't want anyone left out of chat if they are in a Clan, or feeling they are in a "lesser" clan because of a number after their clan name

Kimbot · 15-09-2017 9:58am

Fieldog wrote: »

We as in the Clan, we want everyone included, if there is 10 clans it would be the same, I don't want anyone left out of chat if they are in a Clan, or feeling they are in a "lesser" clan because of a number after their clan name

No FD your dodging the questions now, you and who else have been involved in deciding what way our clan is going??

Right now as it stands I do feel as if I am in a lesser clan and I am in Clan 1. Decisions are been made with no input from the people that use it the most which is very wrong.

Riesen_Meal · 15-09-2017 10:04am

jonnycivic wrote: »

No FD you dodging the questions now, you and who else have been involved in deciding what way our clan is going??

Right now as it stands I do feel as if I am in a lesser clan and I am in Clan 1. Decisions are been made with no input from the people that use it the most which is very wrong.

I'm not dodging anything man, it's all clear as mud

Me,
Generic,
Conovar,
Nocal
Optimus
Sniper
Solvable

Are the admins of the clans, we tend to butt heads and try decide what could work for everyone, we are open to any input from anyone...

We don't want you to feel you are any less being in any number clan - this would all be done away with if you could have over 100 people in a Clan, or over 100 people in messages, but we can't...

I'm open to trying anything to keep everyone happy, could try discord if we have to?

Kimbot · 15-09-2017 10:14am

Fieldog wrote: »

I'm not dodging anything man, it's all clear as mud

Me,
Generic,
Conovar,
Nocal
Optimus
Sniper
Solvable

Are the admins of the clans, we tend to butt heads and try decide what could work for everyone, we are open to any input from anyone...

We don't want you to feel you are any less being in any number clan - this would all be done away with if you could have over 100 people in a Clan, or over 100 people in messages, but we can't...

I'm open to trying anything to keep everyone happy, could try discord if we have to?

Well sorry but if there was discussions in the background on this then no its not clear as mud, up to now I didnt know who was making these decisions and I am pretty sure 90% of the clan were not aware of that either so that in itself is hardly clear as mud is it? Now as a collective clan we are near 200 members yet 7 people have had the complete say on what happens with the clan with no input from the near 190 others. Thats not fair.
And no offence to you FD but I havent seen you active around the clan for well over a year now either yet you appear to be the new voice of the clan.

SolvableKnave · 15-09-2017 10:22am

I think this discussion is heading in a direction that would be best avoided. Can everyone take it back a notch?

Is communities working as we had hoped? No.
Does it allow all 190+ people a central place to arrange activities? Yes.

There are pro's and cons to all options. Currently, the lesser inconvenience is communities with people actively checking the app every now and then.

PSMessages, as has been pointed out, does not allow for more than 100 people. We surpass that number.
Bungie Clans does not allow for more than 100 people. We surpass that number.

I'm open to trying Discord. I have my phone with me at all times really, so Discord or Communities, I'm always checking.

jcd5971 · 15-09-2017 10:28am

To be honest there is no perfect solution here.

"Hopefully eventually, communities gets sorted"

That seems to be the hope and that its for the better for everyone.

Well it simply is not the move happened with 0 consultation and actually made the clan worse off for making it

The communities was trialed during d1 as well and with a choice it failed hard, then with communities having had no improvements made to it was made the solution this is it deal with it.

I agree with Johnny really this should have been discussed on boards. Its boards clan not fieldog and generics clan

Again not a dig at all want to stress that.

For its faults I'm still of the opinion that messages was a better system than what he have "currently"

dudeeile · 15-09-2017 10:29am

Bungie groups is still running but I can't find details or specifics on its actual operation, is there a member limit? Is it going to be shutdown?

If it stays running and can accommodate more than 100 then it may be an option, I'm guessing it will have at least to same functionality of the clan chat.

dudeeile · 15-09-2017 10:32am

I keep seeing this no dig and no naming and no this and that but making that point after you're throwing it about doesn't make it any less ****ty.

It ain't helping, here's your chance for input but you'd rather just throw insults and accusations at people trying to make this work for over 3 years.

Riesen_Meal · 15-09-2017 10:33am

Without getting into nitty gritty, I set the Clan up initially back when this game was in Alpha, then Beta, and then full game, it went from an initial few of us playing ages ago (pre TTK) and as the game has ballooned, so has the Clan...

There is no one person here bigger than the other, the reason that the few of us "admins" try to sort things out between us is for everyone, we don't want what you are feeling now Jonny, that there is any divide between numbers, by all means we can hash it out here and hopefully get a solution between the lot of us that works for everyone, that's all I want at the end of the day...

Somewhere that we can all see, no matter what clan you are in, and something that preferably gives us notifications on what is going on, as it stands on consoles that's the community app thing, as I said, I'm open to trying Discord but not sure how the rest of the Clan would feel...

We could do a poll and see how people feel if you want?

Mitch Connor · 15-09-2017 10:33am

jonnycivic wrote: »

Well TBH fielddog, I havent seen much of it but isnt there a clan chat thing through the bungie/destiny app now? Altho I just checked it and cant find it anymore

To me that was thriving because I was getting plenty of notifications from it so maybe use that in conjunction with community but as it stands right now the community is actually useless. I havent gamed with any of the usual lads I would jump on with etc and thats solely down to the chat been shut down. I also think JCD does have a valid point that all things to do with the boards destiny clan should be discussed openly on boards first and foremost and not just hidden away in the background and users just told hey do this as this is what we have decided you do.

There is a clan chat in the bungie app and in game, but it is limited to the clan you are a part of.

So it is the same issue that PSN messages had - 2 (or 3 clans) with 200+ members and no way for them all to talk to each other in one place. The exact reason we changed from PSN Messages to Communities.

We don't want Clan 1 to be its own clan and Clan 2 to be a clan on its own - we are supposed to be one clan together - if the messaging function for group ups is segregated then its a huge problem.

Why are people perfectly fine with excluding half the clan? I don't understand this attitude at all.

SolvableKnave · 15-09-2017 10:34am

dudeeile wrote: »

Bungie groups is still running but I can't find details or specifics on its actual operation, is there a member limit? Is it going to be shutdown?

If it stays running and can accommodate more than 100 then it may be an option, I'm guessing it will have at least to same functionality of the clan chat.

The Bungie thing is a per clan only thing I think. Which, while it might work, splits the overall community in 2.

Riesen_Meal · 15-09-2017 10:35am

SolvableKnave wrote: »

The Bungie thing is a per clan only thing I think. Which, while it might work, splits the overall community in 2.

This is the problem all along tbh

dudeeile · 15-09-2017 10:37am

SolvableKnave wrote: »

The Bungie thing is a per clan only thing I think. Which, while it might work, splits the overall community in 2.

Nah knave there's a groups section also, it may be possible to maintain clans as-is but then have everyone in a single group. As I said I can't find the full details so I'm only putting another possible option out there.

Maybe if there was a Bungie mod about

Generic Dreadhead · 15-09-2017 10:39am

Ok so what I'm seeing here in summary is essentially the problem is Communities does not generate a notification on PSN when ANY post is made. But we're proposing Discord as a possible "solution" to this issue and that will generate no PSN Notifications since it's totally separate on an App. I don't follow that line of logic tbh.

I mean I have Discord myself for other games, so I have no issue with it. But it's not a solution to the problem people have.

The solution would be that Playstation actually fix the notifications, but of course that's not in our remit to control

Riesen_Meal · 15-09-2017 10:40am

dudeeile wrote: »

Nah knave there's a groups section also, it may be possible to maintain clans as-is but then have everyone in a single group. As I said I can't find the full details so I'm only putting another possible option out there.

Does this work with outside clan's of what one you are numbered in?

If it does allow other people from outside the Clan that could be an answer, if it doesn't we are back to square one...

I don't see how it would let me add people from Clan 2 (not my clan) into a Clan 1 chat but it it did that would be amazing

Mitch Connor · 15-09-2017 10:42am

dudeeile wrote: »

Bungie groups is still running but I can't find details or specifics on its actual operation, is there a member limit? Is it going to be shutdown?

If it stays running and can accommodate more than 100 then it may be an option, I'm guessing it will have at least to same functionality of the clan chat.

with bungie you are either a clan or a group - I don't think creating a group would help our situation as it isn't in an game communication tool as far as I know.

jcd5971 · 15-09-2017 10:44am

dudeeile wrote:

It ain't helping, here's your chance for input but you'd rather just throw insults and accusations at people trying to make this work for over 3 years.

I've done no such thing dude and you know it

This is the place to discuss this and where the discussion should have happened in the first place.

Trust me I don't want to fall out with people I've been playing with for 2.5 years

But I felt this was a bad idea, and on review of first 2 weeks of launch it appears to be not working.

This is obviously just my opinion

Hence the post.

Riesen_Meal · 15-09-2017 10:48am

jcd5971 wrote: »

I've done no such thing dude and you know it

This is the place to discuss this and where the discussion should have happened in the first place.

Trust me I don't want to fall out with people I've been playing with for 2.5 years

But I felt this was a bad idea, and on review of first 2 weeks of launch it appears to be not working.

This is obviously just my opinion

Hence the post.

No need for anyone to get thick over this, this clan has fostered some good friendships and put together some great times over the years we are active - we should all be trying to brainstorm something that we all can use...

Any suggestions JCD?

Bear in mind we need to include over the initial 100 people and have it so we can all get the notification...

Mitch Connor · 15-09-2017 10:49am

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

Ok so what I'm seeing here in summary is essentially the problem is Communities does not generate a notification on PSN when ANY post is made. But we're proposing Discord as a possible "solution" to this issue and that will generate no PSN Notifications since it's totally separate on an App. I don't follow that line of logic tbh.

I mean I have Discord myself for other games, so I have no issue with it. But it's not a solution to the problem people have.

The solution would be that Playstation actually fix the notifications, but of course that's not in our remit to control

Discord isn't actually being put forward as a solution. Its just an example of what was looked at.

As for what it would solve:

Notifications on mobile/computer - yes.
All clan members can communicate in one location (and generate those notifications).

As you say though, yep - it doesn't have in game notifications and it would also require people to install/sign up for Discord.

If we are only looking at in-game solutions then we only have:

PSN Messages
Communities
Bungie Clan Chat.

Only one of them allows Clan 1 and Clan 2 to interact so only one of them is viable in any way.

If we take on board criticism of the way it was decided and communicated - then what are the alternative solutions people would like to propose.

If it is PSN Messages or Clan Chat - how do they propose we are going to keep Clan 1 and Clan 2 integrated or do they only want to game with the people in their specific clan? Is there a workaround they propose?

Its possible that we simply should have kept the clans to people that are on here, which would reduce the numbers dramatically - but that is possibly a thing we just can't go back to now.

Kimbot · 15-09-2017 10:50am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

There is a clan chat in the bungie app and in game, but it is limited to the clan you are a part of.

But from my understanding hasnt that clan chat been shut down now??

I understand there will still be a split between clan 1, clan 2 and clan 3 etc. Im not saying that is the answer but lets be honest about this here and now. I have heard nothing but complaints from people in the clan about how all this was handled in the background with no community opinions/consultation.

It appears to have fragmented the community that has been built up over the past 3 years. And to give an example I used to game alot with plenty of the lads, I have only gamed with I think 10 odd different people since D2 launch. Hell in my first week in the clan I must have gamed with 30-40 different people. That in itself shows that a large portion of the community are either not bothered with the community or just cant get the hang of whats its supposed to do.

Lets face it, right now its a mess, we all know its a mess but its not going to change when its the exact same 7 people in the background making the decisions. There could be several platforms out there to sort this issue out but the 7 decision makers may not know about it where as others in the community may have better knowledge of those systems.

Like many options are available which would include the likes of:

Facebook Groups
Whatsapp Groups
Discord
A private forum where everyone can be included
Etc.

But IMO (Not that its worth much around here) 1st and foremost anything to do with the clan should be done publically here in the forum on Boards, it is the Boards.ie Destiny clan afterall, if that cant be done then its hardly a boards clan is it. Thats goes for arranging raids, trials teams, quests etc. Then if you cant fill the numbers you moved on to whatever platform the clan are on, which in the past was the chat. There was transparancy with that system that is not available with what we are currently using. And an example of that would be the Raid Groups from wednesday, I for one didnt see some of the raid groups posted about here on Boards or on the community page when they were been setup so I know as fact plenty of the new members and even some of the old members were put out by this because it was said to me by a few people. That in itself fractures the group.

SolvableKnave · 15-09-2017 10:51am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

with bungie you are either a clan or a group - I don't think creating a group would help our situation as it isn't in an game communication tool as far as I know.

Yeah, Groups is on the Bungie website only. Nothing in game. So, again, while it might work, your still back to the issue of not getting in game notifications. So, your back to checking something every now and then, as is the case with Communities currently.

Mitch Connor · 15-09-2017 10:54am

Can we get away from any talk of insults or anger please - and get to an actual discussion.

If people don't like communities - what are the solutions they propose. Lets discuss what changes could be made.

Kimbot · 15-09-2017 10:56am

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Can we get away from any talk of insults or anger please - and get to an actual discussion.

If people don't like communities - what are the solutions they propose. Lets discuss what changes could be made.

I for one cant see any insults posted here because if there was then I would be bringing my shiny mod hammer out.

Generic Dreadhead · 15-09-2017 10:56am

We find it tricky enough to get a consensus for 8 people, never mind 190, of which (maybe?) 50 use Boards.ie :P
We've always tried to pick good people to make good decisions for the clan as a whole going right back to when it was originally just Fieldog, Sniper and Myself running it.
As the Clans grew, that number of Admins grew to 9 (3 per clan) then and now it's 8 (4 per clan).
It's never been "Fieldogs Clan or Generics Clan" and tbh, it's personally disappointing that is even being touted about after the level of effort we've put in to be inclusive, listen to feedback and do whats best for the Clan.
And really, that's all I'm going to say on the matter.

What's the best decision here for the majority of the clan? - Go back to using messages (100 clear winners there)
What's the best decision here for the whole of the clan? - Communities is the "best" option.

Do I absolutely adore Communties? No
Is it still a few updates behind where we want it to be? Absolutely
Does it function for what we need it to now? For the most part
What are it's biggest issues? No notification for ALL posts (notifications for replies seem to work better) and it's 1 click more cumbersome to navigate to on PSN
Are these issues we try and accept now for the greater good? I would have hoped so

It's been 8 days since the game came out.
A lot of people don't have a "need" to group up until they hit 265 which can take like 24 gameplay hours (on 1st character approximately)
I've seen Communities get more and more busy over the last few days as more people hit the 260+ power level and now want/require grouping up.

Kimbot · 15-09-2017 10:58am

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

We find it tricky enough to get a consensus for 8 people, never mind 190, of which (maybe?) 50 use Boards.ie :P

Well if 50 only used Boards.ie then why are they in the Boards.ie clan. Its a clan setup for the users of the forum, plain and simple as that.

Riesen_Meal · 15-09-2017 10:59am

I completely understand where Jonny is coming from, and all of you, when we made the decision of community app it wasn't one that was taken (forgive the pun) lightly, we can open up chat on the Bungie app again but that would just be for your respective clan number, and forge a division clan wise (IMO)

It would mean that say the likes of Clan 2 and if we get a Clan 3 back, can't see it, or others from other clan's...

I don't think using Facebook/social media group is the way either as not everyone is on Facebook or WhatsApp

SeanHarty · 15-09-2017 11:02am

Can I just ask one thing...

We are being told that we are to use communities to organise activates in the game etc...

But there seems to be an almighty lack of extremely vocal regular players offering help, raid groups or even to run a few strikes..

But then you see the same clicks partying together and doing different activates as a party? How are they organising this if communities is the only way to do this? Am I blind and totally missing these messages? Or more likely there are sub groups of people in PS message groups like before.... not a great way to run a community if you ask me.

When I first joined this was a community long before "communities" came along, its sad to say that we have appeared to have lost that.

Riesen_Meal · 15-09-2017 11:04am

I have another "suggestion"

If as little people in the Clan are using boards as Generic says, should we maybe get rid of them as, as Jonny puts it, it is a boards.ie clan- should we have a minimum post count or something? Do they have to be an active Boardsie?

My worry with something like that is it would lead to more divide....

EoinMcLovin · 15-09-2017 11:07am

Was looking into other options and found this, I don't know if this will solve everything and this is the first I've heard of it but thought I'd post it anyway https://blog.band.com/how-to-make-a-strong-clan-in-destiny-2-56c177bcfc26

3 features are
Calendar — Set up raid scheduling, events, clan training and more with the calendar and RSVP feature. Each event can be posted on the wall and shared as an important notice for those time sensitive raid schedules.
Board + Notices — Share important information, news, photos with your clan. Create a notice and notify your members with important updates! See who reads each notice and keep every member accountable.
Text Chat — Create separate chat rooms for general discussion, fireteam lfgs, console discussion and other games.

https://blog.band.com/heres-how-band-can-help-destiny-clan-leaders-c3274ee5b812

Riesen_Meal · 15-09-2017 11:11am

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Was looking into other options and found this, I don't know if this will solve everything and this is the first I've heard of it but thought I'd post it anyway https://blog.band.com/how-to-make-a-strong-clan-in-destiny-2-56c177bcfc26

3 features are
Calendar — Set up raid scheduling, events, clan training and more with the calendar and RSVP feature. Each event can be posted on the wall and shared as an important notice for those time sensitive raid schedules.
Board + Notices — Share important information, news, photos with your clan. Create a notice and notify your members with important updates! See who reads each notice and keep every member accountable.
Text Chat — Create separate chat rooms for general discussion, fireteam lfgs, console discussion and other games.

https://blog.band.com/heres-how-band-can-help-destiny-clan-leaders-c3274ee5b812

Great post Eoin...

I would be willing to give anything like that a try if it works for everyone...

Could do a poll and see would people actually get on board?

Possibly here and on the (urg) community page

Kimbot · 15-09-2017 11:15am

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Was looking into other options and found this, I don't know if this will solve everything and this is the first I've heard of it but thought I'd post it anyway https://blog.band.com/how-to-make-a-strong-clan-in-destiny-2-56c177bcfc26

3 features are
Calendar — Set up raid scheduling, events, clan training and more with the calendar and RSVP feature. Each event can be posted on the wall and shared as an important notice for those time sensitive raid schedules.
Board + Notices — Share important information, news, photos with your clan. Create a notice and notify your members with important updates! See who reads each notice and keep every member accountable.
Text Chat — Create separate chat rooms for general discussion, fireteam lfgs, console discussion and other games.

https://blog.band.com/heres-how-band-can-help-destiny-clan-leaders-c3274ee5b812

See this is what I am alluding to, no offence to the admins of the group but user input like this is exactly what is needed as the admins may never have known about this unless the users were involved and put it forward. Other users could come along with more suggestions.

Generic Dreadhead · 15-09-2017 11:19am

jonnycivic wrote: »

Well if 50 only used Boards.ie then why are they in the Boards.ie clan. Its a clan setup for the users of the forum, plain and simple as that.

Yeah, it started as that and it grew far and wide and fast.

Tonnes of players who've been "core" to the Clan since very early days don't use Boards, they're there cause their friends were in the clan or they joined for a Raid and wanted to join and a variety of other reasons

Mitch Connor · 15-09-2017 11:20am

jonnycivic wrote: »

Well if 50 only used Boards.ie then why are they in the Boards.ie clan. Its a clan setup for the users of the forum, plain and simple as that.

Its a good point - and in general I agree with you. We probably should have been stricter from the off on this - and certainly from the launch of D2 - I would guess a lot of people have joined in the last week simply from searching for a clan and requesting access for clan goodies.

Maybe we should have looked to enforce it to boards.ie users and their friends.

But - I don't know if we can move back from where we are now. Kick a load of people? maybe that is part of the answer.

Kimbot · 15-09-2017 11:21am

Generic Dreadhead wrote: »

Yeah, it started as that and it grew far and wide and fast.

Tonnes of players who've been "core" to the Clan since very early days don't use Boards, they're there cause their friends were in the clan or they joined for a Raid and wanted to join and a variety of other reasons

Then its hardly a boards.ie clan is it.

Doctor Jimbob · 15-09-2017 11:24am

It's hard to work out a solution that works for everyone when so many people are involved. I'd be wary about using discord myself. It's a great system, but if not everyone wants to use that it could lead to further fragmentation of the clan - I've played other games where you have a few discord regulars organising events on there with the best of intentions, only for half the clan to miss out because they don't have the app. I know communities isn't ideal, it's a pain in the hole having to refresh to see new messages, but it seems to come closest to ticking all the boxes.

Would organising some community events help a bit with the lack of community spirit some are mentioning? Even just something simple like throw up a post a few days in advance for say Saturday night pvp, a few strikes on a Thursday or something like that? Just a thought, I've only really started playing regularly since d2 came out and I've no idea if something similar has been done before.

Generic Dreadhead · 15-09-2017 11:25am

Fieldog wrote: »

I have another "suggestion"

If as little people in the Clan are using boards as Generic says, should we maybe get rid of them as, as Jonny puts it, it is a boards.ie clan- should we have a minimum post count or something? Do they have to be an active Boardsie?

My worry with something like that is it would lead to more divide....

Why is this even being entertained?

People are having issues using communities.... so now we need them to go set up an account for a website which has no App support or any sort of tie-in to PSN?

That's absolute baby-out-with-the-bathwater imho.

Granted my ~50 is an estimate off the cuff/top of my head. I'm not gonna do a count. Maybe the real number is bigger or smaller

So who is gonna kick Redzer? Kaiser? Bashful? Hoch? Bada$$? Saucepan? Welbeck? Terry?

What planet did I wake up this morning

Kimbot · 15-09-2017 11:26am

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Would organising some community events help a bit with the lack of community spirit some are mentioning? Even just something simple like throw up a post a few days in advance for say Saturday night pvp, a few strikes on a Thursday or something like that? Just a thought, I've only really started playing regularly since d2 came out and I've no idea if something similar has been done before.

This is exactly how the clan had been run up to this point, the minute the change went to communities all that went out the window.

Playstation Clan clean up/migrations/management

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