€7000 in fines for doing donuts.

bladespin · 07-09-2017 01:30PM

marcus001 wrote: »

Really? Then why do rally cars powerslide so much? For fun is it?

Must be, because they don't on tarmac, if they are then they're loosing speed and that's not the optimum.

Cheensbo · 07-09-2017 01:37PM

marcus001 wrote: »

No one said that.

marcus001 wrote: »

I would rate people who like to use racing moves on public roads as more blameworthy than a drunk driver. At least the drunk driver has the excuse of being drunk, a sober minded idiot has no excuses.

Didn't ya? Perhaps not but surely could be understood that way, and for the record, being drunk is never an excuse for drink driving :rolleyes:

muddle84 · 07-09-2017 01:42PM

bladespin wrote: »

A powerslide is certainly not a racing move.
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Of course it is. It just depends what Motorsport you're referring to. On a tarmac circuit it's a waste of time and rubber. But if you're racing on a lower grip surface like gravel, snow, ice or off road then sideways is the quickest way around a bend. Look at rallying or rallycross!!!!!!!

bladespin · 07-09-2017 01:50PM

muddle84 wrote: »

Of course it is. It just depends what Motorsport you're referring to. On a tarmac circuit it's a waste of time and rubber. But if you're racing on a lower grip surface like gravel, snow, ice or off road then sideways is the quickest way around a bend. Look at rallying or rallycross!!!!!!!

We're talking about road work here, if they were talking about off road there wouldn't be a problem.

I've tried rally rallycross and would recommend it thoroughly to anyone who wants to slide.

marcus001 · 07-09-2017 01:51PM

Cheensbo wrote: »

Didn't ya? Perhaps not but surely could be understood that way, and for the record, being drunk is never an excuse for drink driving :rolleyes:

A donut isn't a racing move.

marcus001 · 07-09-2017 01:52PM

bladespin wrote: »

We're talking about road work here, if they were talking about off road there wouldn't be a problem.

I've tried rally rallycross and would recommend it thoroughly to anyone who wants to slide.

Does snow not fall on public roads?

bladespin · 07-09-2017 01:53PM

marcus001 wrote: »

Does snow not fall on public roads?

Not enough for a powerslide to ever be a racing move in Ireland, we get muck on them too but as before, not enough....

Cheensbo · 07-09-2017 01:54PM

marcus001 wrote: »

A donut isn't a racing move.

Nice save,

Just like a well executed powerslide

Best to do them while drunk though, at least it will be excusable then

bladespin · 07-09-2017 01:56PM

marcus001 wrote: »

A donut isn't a racing move.

A doughnut is a 360 powerslide, I know of no other way of performing one.

muddle84 · 07-09-2017 02:09PM

bladespin wrote: »

We're talking about road work here, if they were talking about off road there wouldn't be a problem.

I've tried rally rallycross and would recommend it thoroughly to anyone who wants to slide.

You said racing, not road works. It is a racing move!! Even though technique is probably a better word for it.

JC01 · 07-09-2017 02:09PM

bladespin wrote: »

A doughnut is a 360 powerslide, I know of no other way of performing one.

Then your doing it completely wrong, and your misconception about what a donut is might have some bearing on your overall opinion on the dangers or lack thereof in doing them.

You begin a donut from a standstill unlike a power slide/ drift.

muddle84 · 07-09-2017 02:12PM

bladespin wrote: »

A doughnut is a 360 powerslide, I know of no other way of performing one.

Drive the two back wheels of a front wheel drive car onto two steel plates. Pull up the handbrake. Turn the steering wheel all the way to the left or right and drive. This is not a power slide as it's not the power of the car causing the slide! But its still a donut!!

This only works on flat tarmac.

bladespin · 07-09-2017 02:13PM

JC01 wrote: »

Then your doing it completely wrong, and your misconception about what a donut is might have some bearing on your overall opinion on the dangers or lack thereof in doing them.

You begin a donut from a standstill unlike a power slide/ drift.

I haven't done one in a very long time but you can start from an standstill or move into one, a doughnut is the resulting black circle on the tarmac both are perfectly acceptable. There's little danger in performing a doughnut if you're careful about where you choose to do so, as said previously.

JC01 · 07-09-2017 02:15PM

This thread has really really grown legs. Somebody actually had a pretty decent summary of it a while back.

I hope the mods don't see this as backseat modding or anything but Marcus001 you really need to take a look at yourself, you've twice commented about hopeing someone crashes into a wall/ dies in there car on this thread simply because you disagree with them. That is absolutely vile no matter what way you look at things. You've also added pretty much zero to the actual debate other than arguing semantics about who said what and chiming in with excitable rhetoric here and there, you have repeated a baseless opinion on a topic you clearly know very little about and when challenged by someone knowledgable on the subject you told him you hope he crashed into a wall!!

You're either a troll or a particularly unpleasant person.

bladespin · 07-09-2017 02:16PM

muddle84 wrote: »

Drive the two back wheels of a front wheel drive car onto two steel plates. Pull up the handbrake. Turn the steering wheel all the way to the left or right and drive. This is not a power slide as it's not the power of the car causing the slide! But its still a donut!!

This only works on flat tarmac.

That's a new one on me but isn't having to use foreign objects like steel plates a complete cheat? Off topic soz.

JC01 · 07-09-2017 02:17PM

bladespin wrote: »

I haven't done one in a very long time but you can start from an standstill or move into one, a doughnut is the resulting black circle on the tarmac both are perfectly acceptable. There's little danger in performing a doughnut if you're careful about where you choose to do so, as said previously.

Agreed, but that's a different thing to a powerslide, even when your starting from a roll you'll load up the clutch to kick the back of the car out, again totally different from a powerslide, I think it's very important to differentiate between lads doing rings as in the OP and lads out drifting on the roads.

bladespin · 07-09-2017 02:35PM

muddle84 wrote: »

You said racing, not road works. It is a racing move!! Even though technique is probably a better word for it.

Context, if you're into racing or trying to race then powersliding on tarmac is counter-productive.

tabby aspreme · 07-09-2017 02:37PM

Cheensbo wrote: »

As much as I hate doing donuts, this thread makes me want to weld the diff in my car and go out diffing.

Doing donuts is worse than drink driving :pac: Welcome to the thread, Mr Healy Rae

It's a well known fact that you fall asleep after a big feed of donuts, selling bags of 6 for €3 should be illegal , bring in minimum pricing for them

muddle84 · 07-09-2017 02:43PM

bladespin wrote: »

That's a new one on me but isn't having to use foreign objects like steel plates a complete cheat? Off topic soz.

What are you going to do when all you have is a 1.2 Corsa and you want to go sideways???? ðŸ˜€

tabby aspreme · 07-09-2017 02:45PM

marcus001 wrote: »

Really? Then why do rally cars powerslide so much? For fun is it?

There is a technique of driving rear wheel drive rally cars know as the "Scandi flick", where power sliding is used to set a car up on approach to a bend or junction, google it for an explanation.

Cheensbo · 07-09-2017 02:45PM

muddle84 wrote: »

What are you going to do when all you have is a 1.2 Corsa and you want to go sideways???? ðŸ˜€

You can probably just about do reverse donuts on grass with a 1.2 corsa

bladespin · 07-09-2017 02:45PM

muddle84 wrote: »

What are you going to do when all you have is a 1.2 Corsa and you want to go sideways???? &#55357;&#56832;

Buy a bike or a pair of skis.

muddle84 · 07-09-2017 02:45PM

bladespin wrote: »

Context, if you're into racing or trying to race then powersliding on tarmac is counter-productive.

Outside of rallying yes I agree completely with you.

Cantona's Collars · 07-09-2017 02:46PM

Many have missed one important thing.As stupid as doing donuts on a public road is,the crashes that kill or injure lads who like a bit of fun on the roads tend to happen before or after they've burnt a bit of rubber.If they overestimate their skill as a driver cos they can do a bit of diffing then they see every bend as a challenge to see how fast they can take it and every straight as a drag strip. Too many young lads killed or injured on the roads especially late at night "when it's safer and not as busy".

marcus001 · 07-09-2017 02:51PM

JC01 wrote: »

This thread has really really grown legs. Somebody actually had a pretty decent summary of it a while back.

I hope the mods don't see this as backseat modding or anything but Marcus001 you really need to take a look at yourself, you've twice commented about hopeing someone crashes into a wall/ dies in there car on this thread simply because you disagree with them. That is absolutely vile no matter what way you look at things. You've also added pretty much zero to the actual debate other than arguing semantics about who said what and chiming in with excitable rhetoric here and there, you have repeated a baseless opinion on a topic you clearly know very little about and when challenged by someone knowledgable on the subject you told him you hope he crashed into a wall!!

You're either a troll or a particularly unpleasant person.

I said I hope he hits a wall before hitting someone else. I never said I wanted him to die, in fact I said I didn't want him to get hurt. I think I'm a far more pleasant person that the person who endangers other road users. As for playing semantics? The same fella just kept trying to catch me out with the "so you actually meant this???" bull**** you usually get on boards. I see other people playing semantics above, I don't see you calling them out.

bladespin · 07-09-2017 02:55PM

Very true, might be a better idea for them to find/be given somewhere to go and enjoy themselves without bothering/threatening anyone else.

marcus001 · 07-09-2017 02:55PM

Cheensbo wrote: »

Nice save,

Just like a well executed powerslide Best to do them while drunk though, at least it will be excusable then

It's not a save, I used the correct words when I said it. If I had meant to include donuts I'd have said something else.

tabby aspreme · 07-09-2017 02:57PM

bladespin wrote: »

Context, if you're into racing or trying to race then powersliding on tarmac is counter-productive.

But you need to understand the buzz that jung laads get from using the "full a the rack" . They don't care about keeping the race in its place.

bladespin · 07-09-2017 03:00PM

tabby aspreme wrote: »

But you need to understand the buzz that jung laads get from using the "full of the rack" . They don't care about keeping the race in its place.

I do, there'll always be an idiot but that's what the law or law of Darwin is for, if there's a safe spot where they'll not get hassled the majority will use it.

Cheensbo · 07-09-2017 03:07PM

marcus001 wrote: »

It's not a save, I used the correct words when I said it. If I had meant to include donuts I'd have said something else.

Sorry, for thinking you would be talking about donuts, you know - in a thread about donuts.

€7000 in fines for doing donuts.

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