Galway GAA discussion thread

road_high · 14-08-2017 11:37PM

gilberto_eire wrote: »

I clarified what I meant by easy and it wasn't in the normal sense.

I meant there's no big bad wolf this time... a once in a generation team, a Cork side of that were the second best of the past 30years.

It's a final, and a one off game and we're not the Dublin footballers... but there's more to be optimistic about than there was in 05, 12 or 15.

Galway were class in 2012 if I recall- KK barely hung on for a draw. They have much big day experience to draw on.

hurlingman97 · 14-08-2017 11:45PM

road_high wrote: »

Galway were class in 2012 if I recall- KK barely hung on for a draw. They have much big day experience to draw on.

We were class in the first half. The second half was all Kilkenny and we were very lucky to get that last minute free to level it.

MfMan · 14-08-2017 11:56PM

Wouldn't dare to be as confident as you Gilberto. I found it difficult to make a case for Waterford winning yesterday, but they imposed their will on the game as it progressed, so much so that Cork were made look so ordinary by the finish. I'd compare Waterford more to Tyrone in that they have a habit of making you play the game their way and closing down the opposition from playing. Encouraging for Galway though is real consistency this year, particularly in defence, while most of the forwards have had stand out games. Niall Burke may be under pressure to start the final (though he has experience of this which may be valuable), while Cathal Mannion will be hoping to improve his form a bit. These can be worked on.

What of the Gleesons? I have a feeling a 'deal' will be done! Conor's red will be downgraded to yellow, while the CCCC will throw the book at Austin; this way, they won't be seen to be undermining their own rules. I do think the Tuohy incident was a bit different than Gleeson's; Tuohy's was dealt with quite quickly and happened during a rushed passage of play. Slow-mo really damns Gleeson as it made it look calculated and done in a fit of pique, especially as the ball had gone out of play. Don't want to see him banned as it would overshadow the normally pleasant build-up to the final, make a cause celebre of Gleeson, and *if* Galway win, it would be thrown back at them that they beat a weakened Waterford team. But where to go with it?

evolving tipperary · 15-08-2017 11:40AM

Class

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_0Pb5G8idA

jam83 · 15-08-2017 02:42PM

Gleeson deserves a ban but I think I'd prefer Galway to play a close to full strength Waterford.
I don't think what Austin gleeson did had any bearing on the result of the semi final and I know that's irrelevant in the rules, but I'd prefer Galway to beat a Waterford team without any excuses.
If gleeson got injured then so be it but to hell with it, I'd prefer no excuses, Galway should be good enough to beat Waterford IF the player matchups are right.

In saying that, the gaa are an absolute joke for inconsistency. Refs giving teams one last chance at the end of games is a massive bugbear but the lack of consistency when dealing with big disciplinary issues is just shoddy at this stage.
The big topic of discussion for weeks was helmet pulling and gleeson went and did the worst one of the lot so you'd question what's between his ears.
Fwiw I think touhy is lucky, he grabbed the helmet and pulled it. He wasn't looking at it but it's made from hard plastic and he couldn't have mistaken it for anything else when he grabbed and yanked it. It was deliberate in my view. So if he gets off I think gleeson should, even though 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Utopia Parkway · 15-08-2017 02:47PM

jam83 wrote: »

Gleeson deserves a ban but I think I'd prefer Galway to play a close to full strength Waterford.
I don't think what Austin gleeson did had any bearing on the result of the semi final and I know that's irrelevant in the rules, but I'd prefer Galway to beat a Waterford team without any excuses.
If gleeson got injured then so be it but to hell with it, I'd prefer no excuses, Galway should be good enough to beat Waterford IF the player matchups are right.

In saying that, the gaa are an absolute joke for inconsistency. Refs giving teams one last chance at the end of games is a massive bugbear but the lack of consistency when dealing with big disciplinary issues is just shoddy at this stage.
The big topic of discussion for weeks was helmet pulling and gleeson went and did the worst one of the lot so you'd question what's between his ears.
Fwiw I think touhy is lucky, he grabbed the helmet and pulled it. He wasn't looking at it but it's made from hard plastic and he couldn't have mistaken it for anything else when he grabbed and yanked it. It was deliberate in my view. So if he gets off I think gleeson should, even though 2 wrongs don't make a right.

Tuohy was in the heat of battle though. With Bonner Maher half way up your backside I doubt you're thinking about what you are holding or pushing against with your hand as you try to hold him off. With Gleeson the ball is out of play and the players are barely moving. Big difference.

People are trying to equate the two incidents but there are significant differences between them.

danganabu · 15-08-2017 02:48PM

jam83 wrote: »

I don't think what Austin gleeson did had any bearing on the result of the semi final
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Of course it did, are you really telling me that Cork with a man advantage wouldnt have won that game?? They were reasonably in control at 15v15 before Cahalane's brainfart.

cosatron · 15-08-2017 03:05PM

I see Shannon Keady is named wing back for the Galway u16 against cork in the all Ireland semi final down in cork on Wednesday night. I hope she has a stormer and fair play to her.

jam83 · 15-08-2017 04:28PM

danganabu wrote: »

Of course it did, are you really telling me that Cork with a man advantage wouldnt have won that game?? They were reasonably in control at 15v15 before Cahalane's brainfart.

You're misinterpreting what I said. I said that what Austin gleeson did I.e. the helmet pulling, had no bearing on the result-he didn't injure Luke Meade.
If gleeson injured a player who was having a stormer and he had to go off injured, different story and then that would have directly affected the result.
Everyone knows if gleeson got sent off in the first half that cork would have won. In fact if cahalane kept his head I think cork would have won. They even went 2 ahead straight after his sending off.
You misunderstood my point is all.

mountgomery burns · 15-08-2017 06:18PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Tuohy was in the heat of battle though. With Bonner Maher half way up your backside I doubt you're thinking about what you are holding or pushing against with your hand as you try to hold him off. With Gleeson the ball is out of play and the players are barely moving. Big difference.

People are trying to equate the two incidents but there are significant differences between them.

So whats the difference between Tuohys and Tadhg Bourkes based on the above description?

The Gleeson thing happened pretty quickly as well, you may be forgiven for not thinking that given all the freeze frames/slo mos. I do think he was stupid, but the incosistency really is between Tuohys and Bourkes and no reversing the decision and the ref not giving the red card meant the GAA could choose a policy of ignorance is bliss.

There's been plenty of inconsistency in GAA rulings for a long time but this seems to have hit a serious nerve. Some claiming its the most blatant red card offense they've seen. Far from the most blatant I've seen, and not even the worst helmet pull this year (Bennetts was).

Heraldoffreeent · 15-08-2017 06:23PM

Gleeson seems to have got off anyway.

crottys lake · 15-08-2017 06:32PM

threeball wrote: »

I think the big advantage we have is that our back 6 are good enough to stand alone against the best forwards in the country meaning we'll go with 6 up front and waterford will have their work cut out containing them even with the sweeper. It also means we'll presurise the delivery more which leads to more driven clearances which our half back line will gobble up.
Our midfield is as good as theirs and probably better especially with Gleeson out which will limit Barrons influence alot. For me we're stronger in probably every line with the only question being over their capacity to mentally show up on the day. This year they look like a different animal however and at no stage in the Tipp game did I ever feel we would lose.

Will we bother turning up at all ? By the way, Conor Gleeson does not play midfield for Waterford, never did, but as you say you are stronger in every line ......

evolving tipperary · 15-08-2017 07:22PM

crottys lake wrote: »

Will we bother turning up at all ? By the way, Conor Gleeson does not play midfield for Waterford, never did, but as you say you are stronger in every line ......

I don't think players get much better than Barron - People focus on Austin Gleeson for his magic moments. But, for me, Barron is the man on the Waterford team.

I'd doubt they'll do it - But to break the Galway half line, I think Barron is the best option. He won't beat McInerney in the air. But, if Waterford use their short game to get the ball into Barron's hand - he will sidestep and jink his way away from McInerney. And, that means goals whether for Barron or his teammates. I think that's Waterford's best option for getting the Galway half-back line running backward.

Utopia Parkway · 15-08-2017 07:48PM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

So whats the difference between Tuohys and Tadhg Bourkes based on the above description?
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I don't know but neither does anyone else as the TV pictures of the TDB incident are not clear. The linesman stood by what he saw or thought he saw.

mountgomery burns · 15-08-2017 08:07PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

I don't know but neither does anyone else as the TV pictures of the TDB incident are not clear. The linesman stood by what he saw or thought he saw.

Which is pretty much the same as the Gleeson incident too though going on todays statement? We're happy to let the officials dictate until we disagree with their decision

I said · 15-08-2017 08:43PM

It's over and dealt with now whatever the rights and wrongs,let's concentrate on the final now.
MD has a more certain idea of team that Waterford will start now.

Utopia Parkway · 15-08-2017 09:15PM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Which is pretty much the same as the Gleeson incident too though going on todays statement? We're happy to let the officials dictate until we disagree with their decision

Well no those pictures are very clear.

At the very least Cork should be fuming if Owens is saying he saw the incident and still avoided handing out a clear as day red card.

mountgomery burns · 15-08-2017 09:42PM

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Well no those pictures are very clear.

At the very least Cork should be fuming if Owens is saying he saw the incident and still avoided handing out a clear as day red card.

I meant re the linesman stood by what he saw or thought he saw. Same here and same in the Tuohy incident. Rightly or wrongly.

crottys lake · 15-08-2017 09:46PM

mountgomery burns wrote: »

I meant re the linesman stood by what he saw or thought he saw. Same here and same in the Tuohy incident. Rightly or wrongly.

Both incidents identical. When Tuohy was cleared it was automatic Gleeson had to be. Those are the facts.

danganabu · 16-08-2017 10:11AM

crottys lake wrote: »

Both incidents identical. When Tuohy was cleared it was automatic Gleeson had to be. Those are the facts.

Do you do stand up at all, you could make a fortune

washman3 · 16-08-2017 10:17AM

crottys lake wrote: »

Both incidents identical. When Tuohy was cleared it was automatic Gleeson had to be. Those are the facts.

Did you hear that in the pub last night.?
Cop-on FFS.
There is comparison between the two cases.

carter10 · 16-08-2017 10:31AM

danganabu wrote: »

Do you do stand up at all, you could make a fortune

Still at it I see. Do you comment on games/tactics or just engage in petty arguments? Pathetic individual

danganabu · 16-08-2017 11:12AM

carter10 wrote: »

Still at it I see. Do you comment on games/tactics or just engage in petty arguments? Pathetic individual

What would you like to discuss carter I have no problem discussing any aspect of hurling with you, you choose the topic and I'll engage with you.

I'm going to assume based on your previous contributions that's the last we hear from you but I hope to be pleasantly surprised.

Amprodude · 16-08-2017 06:24PM

Best of Luck in the final Galway. After Glesson getting away with thuggery with the helmet incident I just hope your players can give Waterford a hurling lesson and bring Liam back to Galway.

mountgomery burns · 16-08-2017 06:29PM

Amprodude wrote: »

Best of Luck in the final Galway. After Glesson getting away with thuggery with the helmet incident I just hope your players can give Waterford a hurling lesson and bring Liam back to Galway.

I'd say thats all it is...

Moggy13 · 16-08-2017 07:39PM

Amprodude wrote: »

Best of Luck in the final Galway. After Glesson getting away with thuggery with the helmet incident I just hope your players can give Waterford a hurling lesson and bring Liam back to Galway.

Who is this Glesson of which you speak??

hurlingman97 · 16-08-2017 11:03PM

Congratulations to u16 camogie team on reaching the all Ireland final.

They beat cork 5-13 to 3-05

Another all Ireland final to look forward to ☺

threeball · 16-08-2017 11:09PM

hurlingman97 wrote: »

Congratulations to u16 camogie team on reaching the all Ireland final.

They beat cork 5-13 to 3-05

Another all Ireland final to look forward to ☺

Did Shannon Keady play?

hurlingman97 · 16-08-2017 11:23PM

threeball wrote: »

Did Shannon Keady play?

I don't know, I only heard the result on Galway bay.

maroondog · 17-08-2017 09:50PM

The Galway team that was named on GB FM:

1. Nessa Kelly Athenry
2. Sarah McCartin Craughwell
3. Alanah Kelly Portumna
4. Joanne Daly Sarsfields
5. Shannon Keady. Oranmore-Maree
6. Muireann Faherty Ballinderreen
7. Rachel Burke. St Colemans
8. Niamh Horan Killimor (Captain)
9. Teegan Canning. Mullagh
10.Niamh Niland Clarinbridge
11.Rachel Murray. Sarsfields
12 Kate Moran. Athenry
13. Niamh Mc Peake. Liam Mellows
14. Aoife Níc Dhonnacha Cois Fharraige
15. Chloe Quinn Reilly. Kiltomer

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