Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

wonderfullife · 28-07-2017 02:52PM

Conor via KO-TKO

Gintonious wrote: »

3. Karate stance - All well and good if you are in a Karate competition, throwing kicks etc. That extra distance in a boxing fight gives your opponent more time (as mentioned above) to see punches coming, your punches will be weaker as you lose the rotation in your hips to throw and effective punch and it will also screw up your footwork.

So if he does use that above game plan, Floyd might take a round or 2 to get used to it. Then I see him doing whatever he wants.

That is IF he does that.

Maybe but the converse is true too.

If the distance is greater then Floyd has to cover more distance to land punches too and leaves himself vulnerable to counters, especially because launching attacks from that far back is not something he has even had to do in fights before.

I know he's sparring with Kevin Lee (mixed martial artist) and Kevin will probably give Floyd that look in sparring but other than those rounds, he won't have much experience of attacking a guy standing at kicking range.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 28-07-2017 03:02PM

Floyd via DQ

wonderfullife wrote: »

Maybe but the converse is true too.

If the distance is greater then Floyd has to cover more distance to land punches too and leaves himself vulnerable to counters, especially because launching attacks from that far back is not something he has even had to do in fights before.

I know he's sparring with Kevin Lee (mixed martial artist) and Kevin will probably give Floyd that look in sparring but other than those rounds, he won't have much experience of attacking a guy standing at kicking range.

Floyd wont attack, he wont have to. When Conor throws punches Floyd will counter and that will be enough to win the fight on its own.

I read your piece on Conor changing what is the norm in boxing, I'm sorry but Conor is not a radical thinker who is coming up with something that's never been seen before. He's an opportunist who is getting a chance to make life altering money in a fight he has little to no chance of winning. If what you say is true and he's working on a never before seen game plan then fair play. My gut would be he fights like that because it's what he knows and is most comfortable doing. He's not an idiot and knows he cant compete as a boxer so is keeping distance to Floyd in the hope that he lands a big punch. Whether it works or not is another thing, giving Floyd that much time to work with I personally feel will be a disaster. Especially as Conor's jab from what we've seen is pretty non existant.

Frank Bullitt · 28-07-2017 03:03PM

Floyd via DQ

wonderfullife wrote: »

Maybe but the converse is true too.

If the distance is greater then Floyd has to cover more distance to land punches too and leaves himself vulnerable to counters, especially because launching attacks from that far back is not something he has even had to do in fights before.

I know he's sparring with Kevin Lee (mixed martial artist) and Kevin will probably give Floyd that look in sparring but other than those rounds, he won't have much experience of attacking a guy standing at kicking range.

But for Conor, if he is the one attacking (which the consensus is so far) then Floyd just has to wait for him to come towards him, as he does with pretty much everyone until he has them marked and he walks them down, which is equally as scary.

If Conor uses a large distance, moves in and attacks, and drops that right hand like he does and keeps his chin high (like he does), that is a scary thing to be doing against someone like Mayweather.

I don't think the converse like you put it, holds its weight as against my initial judgement on the use of distance.

wonderfullife · 28-07-2017 03:08PM

Conor via KO-TKO

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Floyd wont attack, he wont have to. When Conor throws punches Floyd will counter and that will be enough to win the fight on its own.

I read your piece on Conor changing what is the norm in boxing, I'm sorry but Conor is not a radical thinker who is coming up with something that's never been seen before. He's an opportunist who is getting a chance to make life altering money in a fight he has little to no chance of winning. If what you say is true and he's working on a never before seen game plan then fair play. My gut would be he fights like that because it's what he knows and is most comfortable doing. He's not an idiot and knows he cant compete as a boxer so is keeping distance to Floyd in the hope that he lands a big punch. Whether it works or not is another thing, giving Floyd that much time to work with I personally feel will be a disaster. Especially as Conor's jab from what we've seen is pretty non existant.

All I'm saying is most boxers fight from traditional stances and throw traditional attacks.

Why is that?

Well, it's because it's been proven over decades to be the most effective way to box.

But for decades in athletics, the proven way to high jump was straight run-ups from an angle and jump chest first over the bar.

Fosbury came along and was like, I'm gonna try it my way let's see how it goes... all conventional wisdom, decades worth of consensus, was that he was doing it the wrong way and would fail miserably.

Instead of trying to beat them at their own game, he changed the game.

If Conor lands a left hand from an attack he started in a karate stance at kicking range, flattens Floyd and walks away with his $100 million, of course it's only human nature that other boxers coming up will re-evaluate the consensus ideas on range, stance and distance.

Whether in life or in sport, if you're not willing to open your mind to the possibility there might be better ways of doing things, nothing would ever change.

wonderfullife · 28-07-2017 03:10PM

Conor via KO-TKO

Gintonious wrote: »

But for Conor, if he is the one attacking (which the consensus is so far) then Floyd just has to wait for him to come towards him, as he does with pretty much everyone until he has them marked and he walks them down, which is equally as scary.

If Conor uses a large distance, moves in and attacks, and drops that right hand like he does and keeps his chin high (like he does), that is a scary thing to be doing against someone like Mayweather.

I don't think the converse like you put it, holds its weight as against my initial judgement on the use of distance.

The onus is on who to attack?

Floyd is supposed to be the best boxer of his generation. If Conor is standing at kicking range not doing a lot and the crowd starts booing, it'll be because Floyd was expected to be the one teaching the novice a lesson.

He can't just sit there and expect Conor to always attack, he'll have to launch his own blitzes.

Sweet Science · 28-07-2017 03:10PM

Conor on points

wonderfullife wrote: »

Agree 100%, Floyd's handspeed, reflexes, combinations, defensive shell is chalk and cheese to anything Conor has ever faced before. There's every chance Conor is in for a rude awakening and I'll acknowledge that's very likely.

I hate to use the Robin Black analogy but I'll do it anyway... imagine Floyd is the Hilton (the best hotel chain) and along comes McGregor who is AirBnB. Or similar comparisons - Floyd's the best taxi around and along comes Uber.

His point, however flawed, is that in life and sport there comes a moment where someone comes along and challenges the commonly-accepted way of doing things.

The best example I can think of is the high-jump in athletics. When Dick Fosbury came along, every elite high jumper ran up to the bar and jumped with their chest going over the bar. Fosbury came along and torqued his body mid-jump so that his back would be going over it.

Fosbury, in the beginning, was mocked and ridiculed with people thinking he's a joke and could never beat the best with this weird technique. Fast forward even 20 years and literally every single high jumper uses the Fosbury flop.

Conor is attempting something very similar. He's being laughed at and mocked and like Fosbury he may not have immediate success. He may lose to Floyd. But there's always the chance he wins and people re-assess concepts like range , stance and distance.

Boxing has been constantly evolving for a century and in 100 years from now people will look back at Floyd and think 'wow, they boxed in such a primitive way back then'.

I admire your post and how much you get into it . However i dont agree. Its nice to see someone come with a left of centre opinion on why Conor can have success and not the usual 'Left hand' 'power' tripe thats rolled out .

I really dont think Conor will fight the way you think. Maybe he will to a degree. But a wide karate stance would be an awful idea

Frank Bullitt · 28-07-2017 03:13PM

Floyd via DQ

wonderfullife wrote: »

The onus is on who to attack?

Floyd is supposed to be the best boxer of his generation. If Conor is standing at kicking range not doing a lot and the crowd starts booing, it'll be because Floyd was expected to be the one teaching the novice a lesson.

He can't just sit there and expect Conor to always attack, he'll have to launch his own blitzes.

He is a counterpuncher man, its his job to wait for you to attack.

He won't give a rats if the crowd boo, he is used to that so much already in his career.

It won't be because Floyd isn't attacking, its because they are not entertained. Don't forget, Conor has said its done within 4 rounds, he has been saying he will knock him out.

A teaching lesson in boxing doesn't automatically mean that you have to be on the offensive, a Mayweather boxing lesson is eating punches after you have swung and missed.

He will sit there and wait for as long as he wants, it matters little to him.

GerryDerpy · 28-07-2017 03:21PM

Conor via DQ

walshb wrote: »

You mad bastid!:)

It is possible that I am mad to think it. I will be a smug cnut if I am right though :-D

Sweet Science · 28-07-2017 03:22PM

Conor on points

Gintonious wrote: »

He is a counterpuncher man, its his job to wait for you to attack.

He won't give a rats if the crowd boo, he is used to that so much already in his career.

It won't be because Floyd isn't attacking, its because they are not entertained. Don't forget, Conor has said its done within 4 rounds, he has been saying he will knock him out.

A teaching lesson in boxing doesn't automatically mean that you have to be on the offensive, a Mayweather boxing lesson is eating punches after you have swung and missed.

He will sit there and wait for as long as he wants, it matters little to him.

In fairness to Floyd he doesnt always have to fight that way . For example Mosley he always got off 1st . Inviting someone as skilled as him onto you isnt good news . The best way for someone to fight him is ugly boxing ( which is probably the hardest to master as them boxers are normally born to fight that way )

Frank Bullitt · 28-07-2017 03:23PM

Floyd via DQ

wonderfullife wrote: »

All I'm saying is most boxers fight from traditional stances and throw traditional attacks.

Why is that?

Well, it's because it's been proven over decades to be the most effective way to box.

But for decades in athletics, the proven way to high jump was straight run-ups from an angle and jump chest first over the bar.

Fosbury came along and was like, I'm gonna try it my way let's see how it goes... all conventional wisdom, decades worth of consensus, was that he was doing it the wrong way and would fail miserably.

Instead of trying to beat them at their own game, he changed the game.

If Conor lands a left hand from an attack he started in a karate stance at kicking range, flattens Floyd and walks away with his $100 million, of course it's only human nature that other boxers coming up will re-evaluate the consensus ideas on range, stance and distance.

Whether in life or in sport, if you're not willing to open your mind to the possibility there might be better ways of doing things, nothing would ever change.

You're comparing apples and oranges here man.

Boxing is continuously evolving, its been doing that for over a century now.

And because of that it is highly refined, so in that respect any type of change or challenge to the status quo is quite minimal in that respect.

The type of change that you highlighted in the high jump was drastic, but it also happened in an event that just doesn't have the same type of spectrum as boxing.

The fundamentals of boxing always work and are always taught for a reason. To just drop them and go against the convention of the norm of a sport that is so well refined, but still play within the rules of the sport, its wishful thinking.

GerryDerpy · 28-07-2017 03:23PM

Conor via DQ

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Lads what we are all forgetting and what Wonderful, Pete and Gerry have all mentioned is that McGregor is going to have a gameplan. Its going to be such a wonderful gameplan, like no other gameplan ever and Conor and his team have come up with it and it's going to be amazing. Wait till august 26th when we see this gameplan, like no other game plan ever.

I know what his game plan is. Insider in the camp. Will tell you the details for 100 quid.

Frank Bullitt · 28-07-2017 03:24PM

Floyd via DQ

Sweet Science wrote: »

In fairness to Floyd he doesnt always have to fight that way . For example Mosley he always got off 1st . Inviting someone as skilled as him onto you isnt good news . The best way for someone to fight him is ugly boxing ( which is probably the hardest to master as them boxers are normally born to fight that way )

Yup, like Maidana or Hatton.

While the defensive manner of Floyds boxing is the standout aspect, when he goes offensive like he did against Canelo, he is equally as scary.

Sweet Science · 28-07-2017 03:28PM

Conor on points

GerryDerpy wrote: »

I know what his game plan is. Insider in the camp. Will tell you the details for 100 quid.

Ah Mr Danis . How are you

GerryDerpy · 28-07-2017 03:29PM

Conor via DQ

Gintonious wrote: »

You're comparing apples and oranges here man.

Boxing is continuously evolving, its been doing that for over a century now.

And because of that it is highly refined, so in that respect any type of change or challenge to the status quo is quite minimal in that respect.

The type of change that you highlighted in the high jump was drastic, but it also happened in an event that just doesn't have the same type of spectrum as boxing.

The fundamentals of boxing always work and are always taught for a reason. To just drop them and go against the convention of the norm of a sport that is so well refined, but still play within the rules of the sport, its wishful thinking.

While you are talking sense, it is not just someone coming in and trying something unconventional. It is someone (McGregor) that has mastered combat fighting at a different range than is normal in boxing, he is applying a mastered skill to a different problem.

Frank Bullitt · 28-07-2017 03:37PM

Floyd via DQ

GerryDerpy wrote: »

While you are talking sense, it is not just someone coming in and trying something unconventional. It is someone (McGregor) that has mastered combat fighting at a different range than is normal in boxing, he is applying a mastered skill to a different problem.

No he isn't.

He skill isn't just a single skill, he is well versed in a number. When you use them all together you get MMA, and he is probably one of the best at it in the world right now.

For him to now go to boxing, he is dropping a few from his arsenal, and trying to use just one. While that simplifies things for him, it puts him at a huge disadvantage going up against someone who has worked on that particular skill for most of his life.

He uses his distance and stance well in MMA because what is bing asked of him is different. He has kicks, takedowns and grappling to worry about from an opponent, likewise he has those skills to use at his disposal as well in a fight.

The range that is used in boxing is used for a reason. To simply take a different fighting art, like karate, and apply that stance to a professional boxing match against someone of an applied skill (a pro boxer) buts them at a disadvantage off the bat. It has to be practised and practised and applied, thats why all boxers start out doing the same thing, and once they get to a certain level, they being to apply their own preferences, but it all works from the fundamentals.

gilmour · 28-07-2017 03:39PM

Floyd via DQ

I'm a bit rusty about discussing fights online lads so ignore the potential and highly likely number of grammar errors and what have you but i was asked a simple question this morning by a mate who is a big MMA fan and we have good conversations back and forth about upcoming MMA and Boxing fights (i ask him about little details in MMA that i have no idea about and vice versa).
Anyway the question was "Honestly, if you're Conor whats the best chance considering his style, to do anything to Floyd?". Now the obvious answer would be "not much" but i did give it a bit of thought and because i rewatched Floyd v Guerrero last night i started to think about what Floyd achieved in that fight and how. The interesting thing about that fight was how Floyd adapted from the first 2 rounds to the 9th (when he bruised his right hand), it was a masterpiece of how to fight a southpaw. But the first and second rounds were very interesting, Guerrero decided to throw with Floyd, finger on the trigger, anytime Floyd threw he threw with him. And to a small degree it worked, the main reason why it didn't work was because Floyd made him miss a lot of shots, by a whisker and adjusted his gameplan thereafter.
But the reach advantage Conor will have would make that approach quite tricky for Floyd if he were to fight as he did against Guerrero, and i think he will. For some reason over the years Floyd has the reputation of having trouble with southpaws but in reality he is more aggressive with them and does tend to fight more in the pocket than an Orthodox fighter (Chop Chop, Judah, Ortiz, Guerrero) the only exception was Pacquiao. He attacks the body with a right jab and throws a variety of right hands with the occasional leading left hook. The reach advantage is there for Conor to clip Floyd after he deploys his right jab to the body. It was there for Guerrero but he couldnt match the speed, reach and crucially he threw next to no uppercuts to counter Floyd. But in the counters he did throw he missed by a **** hair, time after time.

So by answering my mate i give Conor a chance to be effective in a certain spot for a limited number of rounds. Not a "if he lands its over" shot, because i highly doubt that will be the case despite Conors power in MMA, but definitely a "i can see how he could land a few and see what happens after that" kind of approach. He won't have anywhere near the speed or boxing IQ of Guerrero to perhaps even get himself into those positions, but he will have the reach and maybe accuracy against a 4 year older Floyd, who has been inactive for 2 years if he did.

Btw i rarely gave any chance to any world class boxer against Mayweather over the past 15 years let alone a lad making his pro fight debut, so obviously i'm sticking my arse out to say that he will TKO Conor by the 8th. But its a big event, and theres a lot of clowns out there just flapping their lips without knowing anything about both sports so its good to talk about little details (in moderation!).

Just one thing for MMA heads, how in christ do you put up with that Robin Black nutjob? I watched a couple of his videos the other day and i swear to god i nearly choked from laughter, i need the phone number of the mans dealer

Sweet Science · 28-07-2017 03:47PM

Conor on points

gilmour wrote: »

I'm a bit rusty about discussing fights online lads so ignore the potential and highly likely number of grammar errors and what have you but i was asked a simple question this morning by a mate who is a big MMA fan and we have good conversations back and forth about upcoming MMA and Boxing fights (i ask him about little details in MMA that i have no idea about and vice versa).
Anyway the question was "Honestly, if you're Conor whats the best chance considering his style, to do anything to Floyd?". Now the obvious answer would be "not much" but i did give it a bit of thought and because i rewatched Floyd v Guerrero last night i started to think about what Floyd achieved in that fight and how. The interesting thing about that fight was how Floyd adapted from the first 2 rounds to the 9th (when he bruised his right hand), it was a masterpiece of how to fight a southpaw. But the first and second rounds were very interesting, Guerrero decided to throw with Floyd, finger on the trigger, anytime Floyd threw he threw with him. And to a small degree it worked, the main reason why it didn't work was because Floyd made him miss a lot of shots, by a whisker and adjusted his gameplan thereafter.
But the reach advantage Conor will have would make that approach quite tricky for Floyd if he were to fight as he did against Guerrero, and i think he will. For some reason over the years Floyd has the reputation of having trouble with southpaws but in reality he is more aggressive with them and does tend to fight more in the pocket than an Orthodox fighter (Chop Chop, Judah, Ortiz, Guerrero) the only exception was Pacquiao. He attacks the body with a right jab and throws a variety of right hands with the occasional leading left hook. The reach advantage is there for Conor to clip Floyd after he deploys his right jab to the body. It was there for Guerrero but he couldnt match the speed, reach and crucially he threw next to no uppercuts to counter Floyd. But in the counters he did throw he missed by a **** hair, time after time.

So by answering my mate i give Conor a chance to be effective in a certain spot for a limited number of rounds. Not a "if he lands its over" shot, because i highly doubt that will be the case despite Conors power in MMA, but definitely a "i can see how he could land a few and see what happens after that" kind of approach. He won't have anywhere near the speed or boxing IQ of Guerrero to perhaps even get himself into those positions, but he will have the reach and maybe accuracy against a 4 year older Floyd, who has been inactive for 2 years if he did.

Btw i rarely gave any chance to any world class boxer against Mayweather over the past 15 years let alone a lad making his pro fight debut, so obviously i'm sticking my arse out to say that he will TKO Conor by the 8th. But its a big event, and theres a lot of clowns out there just flapping their lips without knowing anything about both sports so its good to talk about little details (in moderation!).

Just one thing for MMA heads, how in christ do you put up with that Robin Black nutjob? I watched a couple of his videos the other day and i swear to god i nearly choked from laughter, i need the phone number of the mans dealer

Good post man . I struggle to see where Conor has success . Maybe when Floyd takes a breather and Conor hits his gloves and arms and the crowd goes wild .

mfceiling · 28-07-2017 05:37PM

Floyd is unbeaten in 49 fights against the best boxers that have been in the weight divisions. Multiple world boxing champions - southpaws, knockout specialists, counter punchers have all stepped in and were carried out, counted out, knocked out or taken apart.

How does a guy with minimal boxing experience expect to get in to the ring with an all time boxing great and expect to win?

walshb · 28-07-2017 05:48PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

mfceiling wrote: »

How does a guy with minimal boxing experience expect to get in to the ring with an all time boxing great and expect to win?

Inner belief, whtasapp, non boxing specific coaching, boards.ie worshippers and millions of social media followers.....it's a sinch!

normanoffside · 28-07-2017 05:49PM

Floyd via DQ

mfceiling wrote: »

Floyd is unbeaten in 49 fights against the best boxers that have been in the weight divisions. Multiple world boxing champions - southpaws, knockout specialists, counter punchers have all stepped in and were carried out, counted out, knocked out or taken apart.

How does a guy with minimal boxing experience expect to get in to the ring with an all time boxing great and expect to win?

Have you not heard about his 'gameplan'?

wonderfullife · 28-07-2017 06:47PM

Conor via KO-TKO

Sweet Science wrote: »

I admire your post and how much you get into it . However i dont agree. Its nice to see someone come with a left of centre opinion on why Conor can have success and not the usual 'Left hand' 'power' tripe thats rolled out .

I really dont think Conor will fight the way you think. Maybe he will to a degree. But a wide karate stance would be an awful idea

Maybe it will be but I feel confident in saying an even worse idea would be for him to try pretend to be a traditional boxer.

His karate stance got him to the dance! Stick with it.
His kicking range is where he has 10,000 hours practice. Stick with it.
His in-and-out attacks are where he's comfortable. Stick with it.

If you're gonna lose, at least lose doing what you know best.
If you're gonna lose, at least lose doing something 47 other boxers didn't do.

I'd be shocked, surprised, disappointed and embarrassed if Conor gets in there and tries to stand in a traditional southpaw stance with a high guard and pretends to be a boxer.

One thing Conor is not afraid of is getting embarrassed. IMO he should go in there, fight his own fight and if Floyd embarrasses him at least he can look in the mirror and tell himself he tried something nobody else tried.

Eyes Down Field · 28-07-2017 07:10PM

Floyd via DQ

Ash.J.Williams wrote:

Conor will win inside 5 rounds... Ko

How's he going to manage that then?

walshb wrote:

Like I said, he had nothing to really lose. Floyd has it all to lose, so for Floyd to save some face for me, he needs to be very clearly dominating.

Agree. Floyd has everything to lose, other than money of course. If he somehow loses to McGregor it would absolutely destroy his reputation and legacy in the sport. Not just losing his 50-0 to anybody, but to a guy who hasn't even boxed a single fight as a professional. The way he is viewed by the public would completely change, and perhaps more damaging, The way the boxing community views his legacy would completely change.

Thankfully I don't see any chance of that happening.

hbhook wrote:

Like many others I watch a ****load of boxing on youtube. I discovered yesterday that Mayweather v Maidana 1 is now on youtube. The tag says it was posted 2 years ago but I've never came across it until now. I don't know why that is..I only ever downloaded a couple of fights.

The Maidana fights showed us something very important about Mayweather. In similar ways to the Mosley fight, As great as Floyd is at defending. He is can take a punch from the best power punchers in the game. Maidana can hit like a train and he keeps coming forward with a relentless intensity.

Conor has a similar engine but doesn't have anything near the boxing skill of Marcos Maidana.

GerryDerpy wrote:

Ok time for another to come out of the closet and prepare to be ashamed:

GerryDerpy wrote:

My prediction is that conor makes this boxing match into a fight and surprises Floyd with his awkward style.

GerryDerpy wrote:

He KO's Floyd within 3 rounds.

Taxi for Gerry Derpy!

Frank Bullitt · 28-07-2017 07:21PM

Floyd via DQ

wonderfullife wrote: »

Maybe it will be but I feel confident in saying an even worse idea would be for him to try pretend to be a traditional boxer.

His karate stance got him to the dance! Stick with it.
His kicking range is where he has 10,000 hours practice. Stick with it.
His in-and-out attacks are where he's comfortable. Stick with it.

If you're gonna lose, at least lose doing what you know best.
If you're gonna lose, at least lose doing something 47 other boxers didn't do.

I'd be shocked, surprised, disappointed and embarrassed if Conor gets in there and tries to stand in a traditional southpaw stance with a high guard and pretends to be a boxer.

One thing Conor is not afraid of is getting embarrassed. IMO he should go in there, fight his own fight and if Floyd embarrasses him at least he can look in the mirror and tell himself he tried something nobody else tried.

I got a giggle out of that one when I said to myself "maybe he should stick with MMA so".

hbhook · 28-07-2017 08:08PM

Floyd via DQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA7O1krogGQ

Look at Mayweather's reaction to the first blow. Very impressive. I'm not sure I'd seen Floyd hurt before and I think Mosley got to him 4 or 5 times there. It was mostly shocking though because I really didn't think Shane had it in him at that point. For anyone who didn't see the rest of the fight Floyd proceeded to engage full super boxer mode and completely dominated thereafter..
Maidana II he got caught but I don't think he was hurt. More like stunned. I forget though. Correct me if I'm wrong!

GerryDerpy · 28-07-2017 08:57PM

Conor via DQ

Gintonious wrote: »

I got a giggle out of that one when I said to myself "maybe he should stick with MMA so".

Ah now I think we can all agree taking this fight is a good decision for Conor, win or lose. Barring brain damage of course!!

walshb · 28-07-2017 08:59PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

hbhook wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA7O1krogGQ

Look at Mayweather's reaction to the first blow. Very impressive. I'm not sure I'd seen Floyd hurt before and I think Mosley got to him 4 or 5 times there. It was mostly shocking though because I really didn't think Shane had it in him at that point. For anyone who didn't see the rest of the fight Floyd proceeded to engage full super boxer mode and completely dominated thereafter..
Maidana II he got caught but I don't think he was hurt. More like stunned. I forget though. Correct me if I'm wrong!

Was it not fight 1 vs. Maidana that he got tagged at the end of rd 6 I think from an overhand timed right hand? Right in Floyd's corner. Clean shot, not huge, and stopped Floyd in his tracks, as well as had him clearly wobbly. Who knows had there been more time in the rd?

Edit: fight 2 at end of rd 3.

hbhook · 28-07-2017 09:38PM

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

Was it not fight 1 vs. Maidana that he got tagged at the end of rd 6 I think from an overhand timed right hand? Right in Floyd's corner. Clean shot, not huge, and stopped Floyd in his tracks, as well as had him clearly wobbly. Who knows had there been more time in the rd?

Edit: fight 2 at end of rd 3.

Well the reason why I'd say it was II is because it was one of the only bits of success he had in the rematch. I could be wrong. I'll watch it again before August 26th. Shamefully I've never seen all of the first. So Imma watch that real soon! I decided to have a short nap beforehand...I don't usually download fights and as I posted the other day the first fight is on youtube at last.

GerryDerpy · 29-07-2017 03:34AM

Conor via DQ

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

Taxi for Gerry Derpy!

Believe me man, I am well aware I could be way wrong on this one. When there is a majority of voices appealing to one to think rationally, as a physicist it hits the spot. But I just haven't been convinced in any way whatsoever that this contest is as one sided as people think it will be. Not to bring emotion into it - but as Eubank said - Conor is Irish - he has a je ne suis quoi about him. Every time I doubted him he has delivered.

I truly believe that Floyd is going to be a bit taken aback by Conor's style. He will be that extra foot further back than usual. He will have the left hand loaded up and Floyd will be focusing on it. He will be like a bear wrestling floyd when in the clinch. He will have no fear.

If he dies, he dies. If I am wrong, I am wrong.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 29-07-2017 06:48AM

I actually watched a doc with Bart Gunn recently.

Gunn was a pro wrestler with a shoot background. More than that he was tough Texan bastard

In 1998 WWF ran a shoot competition called The Brawl 4 All. It was a mixture of boxing and Amateur wrestling.

All the fights were shoot. Dan Severn competed in it.

Bart Gunn won out this competition and was rewarded with a legit boxing match at their biggest show of the year Wrestlemania.

He Boxed a Pro in Butterbean.:D

This is what happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S652hvQaWfY

He stated afterwards that you should never play another persons game.

If this fight coming up is the real deal Conor will be put on his arse.

LordSutch · 29-07-2017 07:04AM

In my opinion the only hope McGregor (not a boxer) has against Mayweather (excellent boxer) is to use Ali's "rope a dope" for as many rounds as it takes for Floyd to burn himself out > Then McGregor (still fresh) let's rip...

McGregor cannot mix it with Maywether or he will be destroyed within just a few rounds, so the only option is to either cover up 'rope s dope style' until the storm passes, or keep away & dance, out of range and out of reach.

Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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