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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • #3422
    Maravilla33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭Maravilla33


    Floyd via DQ
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Ok time for another to come out of the closet and prepare to be ashamed:

    Mate there is absolutely nothing to be ashamed with by coming out of the closet.

    Your prediction for the fight on the other hand........... :eek:


  • #3423
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,481 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Ok time for another to come out of the closet and prepare to be ashamed:

    My prediction is that conor makes this boxing match into a fight and surprises Floyd with his awkward style.

    He KO's Floyd within 3 rounds.

    Fair enough.

    How do you see the flow and action going should it be late in the 3rd rd where he gets the KO. Will it be a case f a hail mary type shot after getting clearly beaten, or more a close fight and boom?


  • #3424
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,930 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    My prediction.

    Its a very slow start, cagey etc, McGregor does some stuff to get a few roars out of the crowd and smiles from Mayweather.

    Then, the usual Mayweather will settle in and start timing McGregor, he will land shots handily and then I think he stops McGregor.


  • #3425
    GerryDerpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    walshb wrote: »
    Fair enough.

    How do you see the flow and action going should it be late in the 3rd rd where he gets the KO. Will it be a case f a hail mary type shot after getting clearly beaten, or more a close fight and boom?

    I think if it goes that long (late in the 3rd) it is because Floyd already got up before the 10 count of the 1/2 previous knock downs. My logic being that if Conor is going to knock him down, it will have to happen sh1t fast before Floyd figures the game plan out. So if the first early knock down doesn't KO him, the 2nd/3rd will and will be in round 3.

    And just to add: I am not saying all this flippantly. I have carefully absorbed all opinions over the past month or two and this is where I have landed. I am willing to accept I was wrong if I am wrong.


  • #3426
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Floyd via DQ
    weldoninhio wrote: »
    It's because come the morning after fight night, theses 1%ers (or 5%ers if you prefer) will be in talking nonsense either way.

    Floyd wins: Was to be expected, no-one thought McGregor would win.

    McGregor wins: Told ya so, sometimes all you need is 1% chance. Etc etc etc.

    They are hedging their bets to cover themselves, no other reason.

    Bullshit.

    One of the biggest moaners on the thread about those giving Conor a chance.... they themselves can't decide on who it is they feel will win between GGG and Canelo:
    StringerBell wrote: »
    I expect this to be close, gonna continue to enjoy my seat on the fence for another little bit.

    Hypocrisy how are ya.


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  • #3427
    hbhook
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭hbhook


    Floyd via DQ
    Posing in round one. The action doubles in rd 2 and more so in rd 3. Floyd stops him in 4 or Mc's corner pulls him out before 5. I'm starting to think Floyd will carry him a bit.


  • #3428
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Bullshit.

    One of the biggest moaners on the thread about those giving Conor a chance.... they themselves can't decide on who it is they feel will win between GGG and Canelo:



    Hypocrisy how are ya.


    Not sure if you are serious but i'll respond anyway?

    Its perfectly normal to be unsure who will win a fight between 2 elite world class boxers.

    A fight between an all time great boxer and a someone in his first ever pro boxing fight not so much. Thats being kind


  • #3429
    Maravilla33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭Maravilla33


    Floyd via DQ
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Bullshit.

    One of the biggest moaners on the thread about those giving Conor a chance.... they themselves can't decide on who it is they feel will win between GGG and Canelo:



    Hypocrisy how are ya.

    Two fairly evenly matched boxers fighting in a boxing match vs an ATG boxer fighting a quality mixed martial artist in his first pro boxing match. Not really comparable no? Could understand why one might be on the fence in one and think the other is a non event tbh.

    GGG and Mayweather both by TKO if you're asking.


  • #3430
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Floyd via DQ
    Oh I see, so it's okay to give someone a 40% chance of winning (or thereabouts) just not below say 5%.... as when you do that, you really think that 5%'er is going to win but just don't have the balls to say it, right?

    Would ya fcuk off lads. This forum is full of spoofers :P

    Cute that you all have each others backs though... even when talking 24 carat horse bollox.


  • #3431
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Oh I see, so it's okay to give someone a 40% chance of winning (or thereabouts) just not below say 5%.... as when you do that, you really think that 5%'er is going to win but just don't have the balls to say it, right?

    Would ya fcuk off lads. This forum is full of spoofers :P

    Cute that you all have each others backs though... even when talking 24 carat horse bollox.

    I think peoples issue is that you keep saying Conor only has less than a 5% of winning, yet when people say Floyd will win easy or critcise Conors boxings skills you seem to take offence.

    Its a contradiction.


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  • #3432
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Oh I see, so it's okay to give someone a 40% chance of winning (or thereabouts) just not below say 5%.... as when you do that, you really think that 5%'er is going to win but just don't have the balls to say it, right?

    Would ya fcuk off lads. This forum is full of spoofers :P

    Cute that you all have each others backs though... even when talking 24 carat horse bollox.

    Would you just man up and say you think McGregor is going to win


  • #3433
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    Mind bending stuff. Jesus Christ.


  • #3434
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Floyd via DQ
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Bullshit.

    One of the biggest moaners on the thread about those giving Conor a chance.... they themselves can't decide on who it is they feel will win between GGG and Canelo:



    Hypocrisy how are ya.

    :D:D:D:D:D:D Not sure if serious.

    GGG vs Canelo is a fight between 2 great boxers. Of course people aren't going to be able to give a definitive answer. It could go either way, both men have decent cv's in the world of boxing. Comparing that to the May-Mc circus is plucking at straws that don't exist.


  • #3435
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Floyd via DQ
    Sweet Science wrote: »
    I think peoples issue is that you keep saying Conor only has less than a 5% of winning, yet when people say Floyd will win easy or critcise Conors boxings skills you seem to take offence.

    Its a contradiction.

    The only opinions posted that I have taken an issue with are ones like laughably suggesting that Conor's stance or hand positioning in an mma fight are the reasons he will be easily beaten in a boxing match.

    Sure I have said myself that if the fight goes past 4 rounds, it will become a boxing clinic for McGregor.... so why would I take offense at anyone doing the same?

    Quit talking out your arse, yeah.


  • #3436
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    Floyd via DQ
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    The only opinions posted that I have taken an issue with are ones like laughably suggesting that Conor's stance or hand positioning in an mma fight are the reasons he will be easily beaten in a boxing match.

    Sure I have said myself that if the fight goes past 4 rounds, it will become a boxing clinic for McGregor.... so why would I take offense at anyone doing the same?

    Quit talking out your arse, yeah.

    You first.


  • #3437
    Sweet Science
    Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    The only opinions posted that I have taken an issue with are ones like laughably suggesting that Conor's stance or hand positioning in an mma fight are the reasons he will be easily beaten in a boxing match.

    Sure I have said myself that if the fight goes past 4 rounds, it will become a boxing clinic for McGregor.... so why would I take offense at anyone doing the same?

    Quit talking out your arse, yeah.


    I agree with you . The only reason he will be beaten is because he is not a boxer .


  • #3438
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,930 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    The only opinions posted that I have taken an issue with are ones like laughably suggesting that Conor's stance or hand positioning in an mma fight are the reasons he will be easily beaten in a boxing match.

    Sure I have said myself that if the fight goes past 4 rounds, it will become a boxing clinic for McGregor.... so why would I take offense at anyone doing the same?

    Quit talking out your arse, yeah.

    I love how much this annoys you to be honest.

    The only thing to go off for McGregor are his MMA fights, because thats all he has done. So if people are using that as a basis for an argument, I fail to see how that is laughable, as you put it. He has habits that you can still see in some of the snaps of his sparring sessions for this fight, mainly his right hand being low and his chin being sky high.

    Both of those habits are cannon fodder for Mayweather to exploit, and he has been doing them for most, if not all of his career in MMA (his UFC career anyway). It stands to reason that his habits for doing them will still exist, hence using that as an example.


  • #3439
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,481 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Bullsh
    One of the biggest moaners on the thread about those giving Conor a chance.... they themselves can't decide on who it is they feel will win between GGG and Canelo:

    .

    You have to be either taking the piss or completely clueless regarding the GGG-Canelo prediction/scenario vs. the Floyd-Conor prediction/scenario...

    It's these type of bonkers silly posts that have people where they are on this thread...

    And, Pete, I like you, even if you can be a bit combative at times..


  • #3440
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,481 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    I think if it goes that long (late in the 3rd) it is because Floyd already got up before the 10 count of the 1/2 previous knock downs. My logic being that if Conor is going to knock him down, it will have to happen sh1t fast before Floyd figures the game plan out. So if the first early knock down doesn't KO him, the 2nd/3rd will and will be in round 3.

    And just to add: I am not saying all this flippantly. I have carefully absorbed all opinions over the past month or two and this is where I have landed. I am willing to accept I was wrong if I am wrong.

    You mad bastid!:)


  • #3441
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Floyd via DQ
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    Would you just man up and say you think McGregor is going to win

    Why would I do that when I don't think it? I hope it, sure, but like I have been saying here for almost two months now..... I only give McGregor a slim chance of winning in the early rounds and believe he will get schooled from that point on if the fight gets that far. Sorry if that's not good enough for you all.

    By the way, many people in boxing give Conor a chance in the early rounds, Paulie included. Does Paulie secretly harbour the belief that Conor will win the fight also??

    What it boils down to is that all you fools are incapable of arguing (sufficiently at least) against the view that McGregor has a chance of winning in those early rounds. You want everyone to come in here and say that they feel he will win without doubt, no matter what, as then you can sneer, guffaw and laugh away as you back slap one another.... otherwise though you stumble around strawmanning, relying on ridiculous arguments like how his back is too stiff and he keeps his right hand down too low in mma fights... how the hell could such a fighter ever hope to do well fighting like that in a boxing ring..... that's what passes as an intelligent viewpoint around here .

    I'm sorry it annoys you all that I (or anyone else) believes McGregor only has a slim chance of winning the fight in the early rounds and that Mayweather will easily win if the fight passed that point.... but that's my view. Ye can suggest that I / we really believe he will win but just don't have the guts to say it as much as ye like.................. but it won't make it so.

    See you on the 27th. Enjoy your echo chamber.


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  • #3442
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,930 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Why would I do that when I don't think it? I hope it, sure, but like I have been saying here for almost two months now..... I only give McGregor a slim chance of winning in the early rounds and believe he will get schooled from that point on if the fight gets that far. Sorry if that's not good enough for you all.

    By the way, many people in boxing give Conor a chance in the early rounds, Paulie included. Does Paulie secretly harbour the belief that Conor will win the fight also??

    What it boils down to is that all you fools are incapable of arguing (sufficiently at least) against the view that McGregor has a chance of winning in those early rounds. You want everyone to come in here and say that they feel he will win without doubt, no matter what, as then you can sneer, guffaw and laugh away as you back slap one another.... otherwise though you stumble around strawmanning, relying on ridiculous arguments like how his back is too stiff and he keeps his right hand down too low in mma fights... how the hell could such a fighter ever hope to do well fighting like that in a boxing ring..... that's what passes as an intelligent viewpoint around here .

    I'm sorry it annoys you all that I (or anyone else) believes McGregor only has a slim chance of winning the fight in the early rounds and that Mayweather will easily win if the fight passed that point.... but that's my view. Ye can suggest that I / we really believe he will win but just don't have the guts to say it as much as ye like.................. but it won't make it so.

    See you on the 27th. Enjoy your echo chamber.

    Again, the photos of him sparring and training for THIS fight show him still doing the same, hence them being used as points of discussion for it. And doing that (even once in a blue moon) against the best defensive and counter fighter of all time...do you see what I am getting at?


  • #3443
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Why would I do that when I don't think it? I hope it, sure, but like I have been saying here for almost two months now..... I only give McGregor a slim chance of winning in the early rounds and believe he will get schooled from that point on if the fight gets that far. Sorry if that's not good enough for you all.

    By the way, many people in boxing give Conor a chance in the early rounds, Paulie included. Does Paulie secretly harbour the belief that Conor will win the fight also??

    What it boils down to is that all you fools are incapable of arguing (sufficiently at least) against the view that McGregor has a chance of winning in those early rounds. You want everyone to come in here and say that they feel he will win without doubt, no matter what, as then you can sneer, guffaw and laugh away as you back slap one another.... otherwise though you stumble around strawmanning, relying on ridiculous arguments like how his back is too stiff and he keeps his right hand down too low in mma fights... how the hell could such a fighter ever hope to do well fighting like that in a boxing ring..... that's what passes as an intelligent viewpoint around here .

    I'm sorry it annoys you all that I (or anyone else) believes McGregor only has a slim chance of winning the fight in the early rounds and that Mayweather will easily win if the fight passed that point.... but that's my view. Ye can suggest that I / we really believe he will win but just don't have the guts to say it as much as ye like.................. but it won't make it so.

    See you on the 27th. Enjoy your echo chamber.

    Incapable of arguing or your incapable of reading it? McGregor has as much chance in the early rounds as the rest of the fight, very slim if not none. Mayweather will out box , out defend and out fight him start to finish (however long that is) Your problem is you seem to be incapable of accepting the view held by many that McGregor has a slim,next to no chance, no matter how long the fight goes.


  • #3444
    Maravilla33
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭Maravilla33


    Floyd via DQ
    So he cant win if he adopts his MMA stance/usual method of striking. He's not going to master the fundamentals let alone pick up enough boxing skills to beat an ATG boxer. So we are left with the hail mary? 49 professional boxers, who ate slept and breathed boxing, including multiple world champions, several HOFs couldn't land that shot. But the Dublin Annual Halloween Boxing champion of the world in his first pro boxing fight will?

    I can't say he has a 0% chance but I think it is close.


  • #3445
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,481 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    If he has a chance in the early rds for the KO does he not have a similar chance in any rd? The chance is after all a KO.

    Maybe stop promoting this early chance stuff, when it is likely that Floyd is at his most careful and cautious, and think that the KO could be even more a possibility a bit latter, when Floyd is maybe bored, complacent and even a little less sharp....

    Assuming of course Conor gets to the later rds and doesn't get beaten up in the first 4 rds for a TKO loss...

    The argument/logic from some for the Conor win seems a little befuddling!


  • #3446
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    Lads what we are all forgetting and what Wonderful, Pete and Gerry have all mentioned is that McGregor is going to have a gameplan. Its going to be such a wonderful gameplan, like no other gameplan ever and Conor and his team have come up with it and it's going to be amazing. Wait till august 26th when we see this gameplan, like no other game plan ever.


  • #3447
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    ThinkProgress wrote: »

    I am going purely on the evidence of some of the ridiculous stuff you've posted around this fight...

    And I'm certainly not the only person on here, who has criticised your lack of understanding of the sport. (lots of posters have)

    Nobody is criticizing my lack of understanding of the sport, they are criticising me for delusion in thinking Conor's limited strict boxing skillset can overcome a master in Floyd.
    walshb wrote: »
    The only way those giving Conor some realistic "logic argued" chance to win will be truly silenced will be because Floyd dominates Conor with ease. Any semblance of competitiveness for however long the fight lasts will be their get out of jail card.

    For me, personally, anything less than a Conor win is a failure.

    If he wins 4 rounds and loses 116-112, it will be a complete and abject failure in my book.

    Sure, if he drops Floyd twice and loses a war I'll come on here and commend his heart but if he doesn't win, it means he lost the fight and is the loser.
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    Lads what we are all forgetting and what Wonderful, Pete and Gerry have all mentioned is that McGregor is going to have a gameplan. Its going to be such a wonderful gameplan, like no other gameplan ever and Conor and his team have come up with it and it's going to be amazing. Wait till august 26th when we see this gameplan, like no other game plan ever.

    It's not so much an incredible gameplan that none of the other 47 boxers were able to come up with.

    It's that he won't be playing the same game. The rest of them were playing chess against a chess grandmaster. Conor is going to try make it checkers. Same board, different game.

    In real terms, that means he'll be fighting closer to kicking range in a karate stance with a wide guard, hands held low, and throwing attacks in Floyd's direction from distances that boxers have never thrown from. If Floyd shuts that down and laughs at him, then fair enough I'll report back here to acknowledge I was deluded.


  • #3448
    dinorebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    Lads what we are all forgetting and what Wonderful, Pete and Gerry have all mentioned is that McGregor is going to have a gameplan. Its going to be such a wonderful gameplan, like no other gameplan ever and Conor and his team have come up with it and it's going to be amazing. Wait till august 26th when we see this gameplan, like no other game plan ever.

    So he's going for the Trump approach?


  • #3449
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Nobody is criticizing my lack of understanding of the sport, they are criticising me for delusion in thinking Conor's limited strict boxing skillset can overcome a master in Floyd.



    For me, personally, anything less than a Conor win is a failure.

    If he wins 4 rounds and loses 116-112, it will be a complete and abject failure in my book.

    Sure, if he drops Floyd twice and loses a war I'll come on here and commend his heart but if he doesn't win, it means he lost the fight and is the loser.



    It's not so much an incredible gameplan that none of the other 47 boxers were able to come up with.

    It's that he won't be playing the same game. The rest of them were playing chess against a chess grandmaster. Conor is going to try make it checkers. Same board, different game.

    In real terms, that means he'll be fighting closer to kicking range in a karate stance with a wide guard, hands held low, and throwing attacks in Floyd's direction from distances that boxers have never thrown from. If Floyd shuts that down and laughs at him, then fair enough I'll report back here to acknowledge I was deluded.

    Wonderful I admire your confidence in McGregor and I have read your comments in the MMA threads I know you know your stuff on MMA. 100% and have a lot of respect for it. McGregor made me a believer in his MMA career, thought he was nothing but a mouth until the Mendes fight. He's proven to be right on his preparation for every fight in MMA. I believe he will try for this one but I don't think JK should be running this camp and I don't believe Conor has the best people around him to help him in boxing. You could be spot on in that his game plan is to fight from distance.

    Its my opinion that if Conor tries to fight Floyd from a distance and throw punches from there he's going to get knocked out with a straight right. He's never fought anyone with Floyd's reflexes or counter punching ability. And has probably never fought someone with this type of accuracy or defensive ability as well.


  • #3450
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,930 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    wonderfullife wrote: »
    It's that he won't be playing the same game. The rest of them were playing chess against a chess grandmaster. Conor is going to try make it checkers. Same board, different game.

    In real terms, that means he'll be fighting closer to kicking range in a karate stance with a wide guard, hands held low, and throwing attacks in Floyd's direction from distances that boxers have never thrown from. If Floyd shuts that down and laughs at him, then fair enough I'll report back here to acknowledge I was deluded.

    Playing checkers against a chess player on a chessboard...incredible scenes.

    IF your above game plan is what he will try and use, then I see going even worse for him.

    1. A bigger distance - That will give Floyd time to see it coming, make a few phone calls and then counter it.

    2. Hands love - Suicide in any kind of boxing matchBoxing 101 is keep your hands up. The only kind of boxers that fight with hands low have reflexes that can bend time.

    3. Karate stance - All well and good if you are in a Karate competition, throwing kicks etc. That extra distance in a boxing fight gives your opponent more time (as mentioned above) to see punches coming, your punches will be weaker as you lose the rotation in your hips to throw and effective punch and it will also screw up your footwork.

    So if he does use that above game plan, Floyd might take a round or 2 to get used to it. Then I see him doing whatever he wants.

    That is IF he does that.


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  • #3451
    wonderfullife
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭wonderfullife


    Conor via KO-TKO
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    Wonderful I admire your confidence in McGregor and I have read your comments in the MMA threads I know you know your stuff on MMA. 100% and have a lot of respect for it. McGregor made me a believer in his MMA career, thought he was nothing but a mouth until the Mendes fight. He's proven to be right on his preparation for every fight in MMA. I believe he will try for this one but I don't think JK should be running this camp and I don't believe Conor has the best people around him to help him in boxing. You could be spot on in that his game plan is to fight from distance.

    Its my opinion that if Conor tries to fight Floyd from a distance and throw punches from there he's going to get knocked out with a straight right. He's never fought anyone with Floyd's reflexes or counter punching ability. And has probably never fought someone with this type of accuracy or defensive ability as well.

    Agree 100%, Floyd's handspeed, reflexes, combinations, defensive shell is chalk and cheese to anything Conor has ever faced before. There's every chance Conor is in for a rude awakening and I'll acknowledge that's very likely.

    I hate to use the Robin Black analogy but I'll do it anyway... imagine Floyd is the Hilton (the best hotel chain) and along comes McGregor who is AirBnB. Or similar comparisons - Floyd's the best taxi around and along comes Uber.

    His point, however flawed, is that in life and sport there comes a moment where someone comes along and challenges the commonly-accepted way of doing things.

    The best example I can think of is the high-jump in athletics. When Dick Fosbury came along, every elite high jumper ran up to the bar and jumped with their chest going over the bar. Fosbury came along and torqued his body mid-jump so that his back would be going over it.

    Fosbury, in the beginning, was mocked and ridiculed with people thinking he's a joke and could never beat the best with this weird technique. Fast forward even 20 years and literally every single high jumper uses the Fosbury flop.

    Conor is attempting something very similar. He's being laughed at and mocked and like Fosbury he may not have immediate success. He may lose to Floyd. But there's always the chance he wins and people re-assess concepts like range , stance and distance.

    Boxing has been constantly evolving for a century and in 100 years from now people will look back at Floyd and think 'wow, they boxed in such a primitive way back then'.


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