Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post

hbhook · 23-07-2017 10:01PM

Floyd via DQ

It would be kind of funny if on fight night they had Micheal introduce Floyd and Bruce introduce Conner.

Eyes Down Field · 23-07-2017 10:23PM

Floyd via DQ

hbhook wrote:

It would be kind of funny if on fight night they had Micheal introduce Floyd and Bruce introduce Conner.

It won't be either of them. The fight is on Showtime. It will be Jimmy Lennon Jr doing the announcing and Jim Gray doing the post fight interviews.

Personally I'd prefer Michael Buffer/ Max Kellerman combo but they work for a different company.

Amazingfun · 23-07-2017 11:05PM

Conor via DQ

Conor iz funny

petethedrummer · 23-07-2017 11:17PM

Floyd via DQ

Littlehorny wrote: »

There is a video on Youtube from Mayweathers last opponent Andre Berto and Berto describes whats its like fighting Mayweather only 2 years ago. He literally says how hard it was to land a punch and how sharp Mayweather is about evrything and how he paces himself during a fight.
This is coming from a guy who has boxed all his life and has reached world level and he admitted that Mayweather is just on another level altogether. Mc Gregor has trained for years to do what he does but its impossible with his limited experience to even get within a mile of what Mayweather knows in a boxing ring.

this...well worth a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQjvXRcnPvw

Mellor · 24-07-2017 01:54AM

Draw

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

It's funny. Boxing fans generally accept that if this was MMA rules McGregor would win easily and early.

But MMA fans don't have the humility to accept that because It's Boxing rules, Mayweather will win easily and early. They don't respect the discipline.

That's a ridiculous assessment tbh. Most MMA fans think that Floyd wins this easily. Even the guys with extreme views saying Conor could win have also said Mayweather is most likely going to win.

I see how humility comes into it either. The results next month illustrates the abilities of two men only. If Floyd wins, if doesn't suddenly validate the combat ability of some armchair fan, and obviously visa-versa should Conor win. People are developing a weird personal attachment to this fight.

ThinkProgress · 24-07-2017 02:53AM

Floyd via DQ

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

To compare McGregor fighting in a boxing ring........ with Mayweather fighting in the Octagon.............. is as about as absurd as it gets.

Has Floyd ever choked anyone out in his life? (other than one of his girlfriends I mean).
Has Floyd ever shown that he can defend against full body takedowns?
Has Floyd ever shown that he could withstand multiple leg kicks?
Has Floyd ever won a Novice MMA Championship in his teens?
Has Floyd ever even been properly trained at MMA?
Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope .Nope.

Now...........

Has McGregor ever shown that he can defend against being punched?
Has McGregor ever won a fight with just his punching skills alone?
Has McGregor ever successfully KO'd fighters unconscious with punches?
Has McGregor ever been trained to box?
Has McGregor ever won a Novice boxing championship?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes!

Away off will your bullshit lads.

Conor hasn't earned this fight, that's true and the probability of him going the distance is almost non-existent, no argument there either......... but without question he has of course a chance that (at just 29-years-old) McGregor can hurt a 40-year-old Floyd given Conor's vast experience (and success) with punching and defending against being punched in combat sports.

To sneer at the possibility that his skills will be of use to him in a boxing ring (particularly with regards to the early rounds) just because they have so far only being shown to effect in MMA.............. is extremely bloody naive.

More waffley propaganda!

You are essentially splitting hairs about % chances of him winning this thing... we think it's very close to zero.... you think this: ("I give him next to no chance")... <--- Those are your words.

So, for someone who is very clearly on the side of "team boxing" for this event... you certainly are making some vociferous arguments in favor of McGregor possibly winning... and getting fairly angry when anyone dares to right him off... :rolleyes:

Look, let's keep things really simple... we are both on the same side of the fence here. You think McGregor is more than likely going to lose this fight. And so do we!!

We are just a bit more confident in our prediction than you. That's the only difference really!

Glad to have you onboard...

Now, having said that... there are quite a few McGregor fans out there, who are very confident that he can pull off the big shock. Some think he's the underdog, but has a solid chance to win... some others even think he's the favorite!!

I think they're all very wrong, and deeply misguided... (and obviously hope they're right) but at least I can respect that they are sticking their necks out and calling this fight. They are not hiding behind anything, or playing both sides... I can at least respect that.

And that's exactly what most of us on the boxing side of the fence are doing too... we are calling this thing how we see it going... we are not hiding behind anything, or giving ourselves excuses if the upset happens!

If we're wrong, then we're wrong... but hey, at least we're not playing stupid games!!

Sweet Science · 24-07-2017 08:44AM

Conor on points

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

To compare McGregor fighting in a boxing ring........ with Mayweather fighting in the Octagon.............. is as about as absurd as it gets.

Has Floyd ever choked anyone out in his life? (other than one of his girlfriends I mean).
Has Floyd ever shown that he can defend against full body takedowns?
Has Floyd ever shown that he could withstand multiple leg kicks?
Has Floyd ever won a Novice MMA Championship in his teens?
Has Floyd ever even been properly trained at MMA?
Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope .Nope.

Now...........

Has McGregor ever shown that he can defend against being punched?
Has McGregor ever won a fight with just his punching skills alone?
Has McGregor ever successfully KO'd fighters unconscious with punches?
Has McGregor ever been trained to box?
Has McGregor ever won a Novice boxing championship?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes!

Away off will your bullshit lads.

Conor hasn't earned this fight, that's true and the probability of him going the distance is almost non-existent, no argument there either......... but without question he has of course a chance that (at just 29-years-old) McGregor can hurt a 40-year-old Floyd given Conor's vast experience (and success) with punching and defending against being punched in combat sports.

To sneer at the possibility that his skills will be of use to him in a boxing ring (particularly with regards to the early rounds) just because they have so far only being shown to effect in MMA.............. is extremely bloody naive.

Well if someone from WWF can be a UFC champ surely Floyd has a slight chance

Mellor · 24-07-2017 09:01AM

Draw

Sweet Science wrote: »

Well if someone from WWF can be a UFC champ surely Floyd has a slight chance

Assuming this is a troll job and you aren't actually that delusional.

Sweet Science · 24-07-2017 09:14AM

Conor on points

Mellor wrote: »

Assuming this is a troll job and you aren't actually that delusional.

Isn't this whole thread delusional ? If you cant beat them join them

walshb · 24-07-2017 11:17AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

ThinkProgress wrote: »

You are essentially splitting hairs about % chances of him winning this thing... we think it's very close to zero.... you think this: ("I give him next to no chance")... <--- Those are your words.

So, for someone who is very clearly on the side of "team boxing" for this event... you certainly are making some vociferous arguments in favor of McGregor possibly winning... and getting fairly angry when anyone dares to right him off... :rolleyes:

Pete IMO is and has been playing two sides of the fence here. He is more than just hoping Conor wins, he believes that he can, and in selling this he is kind of dismissing and insulting the science that is pro boxing, and the scientist that is Floyd Mayweather.

I think this because of the way Pete reacts when certain points are rightfully shot to bits.....

He is either deliberately dismissing the skill/science of pro boxing or ignorantly dismissing it.

Either way Pete is well wide of the mark.

walshb · 24-07-2017 11:47AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

We are in a bit of a catch 22. After all this arguing and pointing out how Floyd is so superior and that Conor will be utterly dominated, do we hope Floyd proves us right, or do we cheer for the Irishman for the crazy upset?

HigginsJ · 24-07-2017 11:49AM

walshb wrote: »

We are in a bit of a catch 22. After all this arguing and pointing out how Floyd is so superior and that Conor will be utterly dominated, do we hope Floyd proves us right, or do we cheer for the Irishman for the crazy upset?

Double KO?

Sweet Science · 24-07-2017 11:50AM

Conor on points

walshb wrote: »

We are in a bit of a catch 22. After all this arguing and pointing out how Floyd is so superior and that Conor will be utterly dominated, do we hope Floyd proves us right, or do we cheer for the Irishman for the crazy upset?

I know where you are coming from . Im actually up for him though i just think he is way way out of his depth.

walshb · 24-07-2017 11:52AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Sweet Science wrote: »

I know where you are coming from . Im actually up for him though i just think he is way way out of his depth.

The upset really is the KO option....If it transpires that Conor is winning the fight rd after rd via boxing then I'll not only close my boards account but close my internet account!

GerryDerpy · 24-07-2017 11:53AM

Conor via DQ

walshb wrote: »

We are in a bit of a catch 22. After all this arguing and pointing out how Floyd is so superior and that Conor will be utterly dominated, do we hope Floyd proves us right, or do we cheer for the Irishman for the crazy upset?

I guess it comes down to whether or not you can accept it if you were wrong about Conor's chances. If that humility is possible, then you got to be cheering for him.

walshb · 24-07-2017 11:57AM

Floyd via KO-TKO

GerryDerpy wrote: »

I guess it comes down to whether or not you can accept it if you were wrong about Conor's chances. If that humility is possible, then you got to be cheering for him.

That's just it. Wrong after the event is not the same as wrong before it...

Is it wrong to give Conor a very very slim chance? No, it is not...

BTW, cheering for him would be more from a fan of his. He is an Irishman, and I usually would promote us cheering our own, but sometimes people don't work that way, and there are plenty examples of this.

I have always been a person who usually roots for the favorite, the best, the great ones...I like to see greatness win.

Luckycharms_74 · 24-07-2017 04:00PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Posted this over in the MMA forum

Interesting video and thread on Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/6oxd9g/the_5_punches_mayweather_will_use_to_embarrass/

walshb · 24-07-2017 04:16PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

And what that video highlights is the amazing length and range, particularly on Floyd's lead right hand. It's speed/timing/variation goes without saying.

Outlaw Pete · 24-07-2017 04:27PM

Floyd via DQ

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Posted this over in the MMA forum

Interesting video and thread on Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/6oxd9g/the_5_punches_mayweather_will_use_to_embarrass/

lol

Neil3030 · 24-07-2017 04:33PM

I always knew Floyd would win easily, but having watched that video, I can't see this getting passed two or three rounds!

Outlaw Pete · 24-07-2017 05:35PM

Floyd via DQ

Neil3030 wrote: »

I always knew Floyd would win easily, but having watched that video, I can't see this getting passed two or three rounds!

Are you serious? You can't see the flawed logic of that video, no?

Reati · 24-07-2017 05:48PM

Floyd via KO-TKO

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Are you serious? You can't see the flawed logic of that video, no?

What it does show me, and I don't think mcgregor will win btw in a long slog, is there is plenty of scope for the upset. MW has his hands down a bit in that video and it only takes one punch to KO a man. So if CM can get a accurate (and we do know he is accuate as F*ck with those hands) shot in he could easily cause the upset.

everlast75 · 24-07-2017 06:14PM

Floyd via DQ

Neil3030 wrote: »

I always knew Floyd would win easily, but having watched that video, I can't see this getting passed two or three rounds!

I think all will agree that if.. and its a BIG if.. Conor has the slimmest of chances.. it'll be a TKO in the first 3 rounds. He won't win it on points so it has to be a TKO and apparently the general consensus is that Conor has enough proper stamina for 3 rounds (no one has explained why Conor can't get his level of cardio up to the same level as FM but anyway....) so he has 3 rounds to do it.

During those rounds he should not give one **** about getting docked points as a result, so he should bully and harass and push and clinch and throw and trip and do whatever he can to get FM out of his comfort zone and out of his game plan, frustrate him in the slimmest of slim chances to open him up.

If that's not his game plan then he has absolutely zero hope.

hbhook · 24-07-2017 06:43PM

Floyd via DQ

What that vid showed me is how gullible I was in the build-up to the fight...I'm a sucka for getting pulled into the pre-fight hype. Not with this one though. Guerrero didn't do anything at WW after that did he? Obviously he went for the payday after beating Berto but he should've tried to go back to LW.

snowflaker · 24-07-2017 07:04PM

Floyd via DQ

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/barry-mcguigan-if-conor-mcgregor-doesnt-get-stopped-ill-be-disappointed/

Barry McGuigan weighs in

Eyes Down Field · 24-07-2017 07:08PM

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote:

We are in a bit of a catch 22. After all this arguing and pointing out how Floyd is so superior and that Conor will be utterly dominated, do we hope Floyd proves us right, or do we cheer for the Irishman for the crazy upset?

To be honest I'm not really cheering for neither side. I'll be watching it to see what happens. Yes it would be nice to be proved right on my prediction of Mayweather by KO/TKO inside 3 rounds, But it will a momentary "I told ya so" moment that won't last. As a boxing fan who has watched Mayweather since De La Hoya, I would much rather see him get to the 50/0 against a real boxer. But I'm not surprised Floyd took the zero risk/maximum reward, golden opportunity on the table.

normanoffside · 24-07-2017 10:10PM

Floyd via DQ

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

To be honest I'm not really cheering for neither side. I'll be watching it to see what happens. Yes it would be nice to be proved right on my prediction of Mayweather by KO/TKO inside 3 rounds, But it will a momentary "I told ya so" moment that won't last. As a boxing fan who has watched Mayweather since De La Hoya, I would much rather see him get to the 50/0 against a real boxer. But I'm not surprised Floyd took the zero risk/maximum reward, golden opportunity on the table.

100%. Floyd is the real fraud here. He has even said himself that this fight is a 'Business move' that they will be studying in Harvard in years to come.
He is gonna make the most money possible for the smallest risk possible. While we are the mugs here for discussing it and/or buying the fight; I am consoling myself by hopefully making money in the hype skewed betting markets

Burial. · 24-07-2017 10:30PM

Floyd via DQ

I'm not one for rooting for the Irish just for the sake of it. Conor is an admirable character and a fine MMA fighter but he's out of line here. I don't blame him necessarily, fine payday and something stellar on your CV but still, I can't support the move. Floyd's equally guilty of pulling a fast one mind you. As a boxer I adore Floyd, but I wished he f*cked off for good when he said he would. Nevertheless, Boxing needs a lesson to be taught by Floyd. Fully rooting for and expecting a brutal beatdown.

Eyes Down Field · 24-07-2017 10:53PM

Floyd via DQ

normanoffside wrote:

100%. Floyd is the real fraud here. He has even said himself that this fight is a 'Business move' that they will be studying in Harvard in years to come. He is gonna make the most money possible for the smallest risk possible. While we are the mugs here for discussing it and/or buying the fight; I am consoling myself by hopefully making money in the hype skewed betting markets

You can't blame Mayweather for taking it though. It's a fantastic business move
He'll make more money than he has ever made, against a guy who has never boxed a professional fight. Absolute Geneius.

Floyd is one of the greatest boxers of all time and without question the most incredible defender in the history off the sport.

He destroys McGregor in the opening rounds. Conor has absolutely no chance.

Eyes Down Field · 24-07-2017 10:53PM

Floyd via DQ

Watched back the Mayweather/Cotto fight. A complete master class of boxing from Floyd. Allot more offensive than I remembered it live. Cotto was one of the greatest, hard hitting boxer-punchers of his generation. The reining 154lb champion and coming off back of 3 straight TKO wins, most recently and notebly over Antonio Margarito...

He couldn't hit Floyd. It's incredible to watch. A word class boxer is unloading his best shots, a hard and as fast as he can and nothing lands.

Floyd will absolutely destroy McGregor next month. One, Maybe Two rounds. KO/TKO

Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

Comments

Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs MayweatherMOD Warning in 1st Post