Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

Eyes Down Field

Floyd via DQ

StringerBell wrote:

Came across this vid in work today, many a chuckle was had I must say. No punches pulled whatsoever and Kellerman bothers me a lot, but I have to say one of his first remarks is spot on "the lack of respect for the discipline is astonishing"

Real recognise real. People who know boxing, know how good Floyd Mayweather is. Some of them may hate him, but there is know denying his skill and ability.

The consensus among the boxing community is that Floyd wins anyway he wants

Outlaw Pete

Floyd via DQ

Gamebred wrote: »

All speaking the truth, Wonder or Pete will be on shortly to try argue but that video is full of people in the boxing world with no bias towards Mayweather, hope the people that think differently come on the 27th and admit they are clueless, as I will If Conor makes even one round competitive.

It's not about them being biased towards Mayweather........... it's about them being biased towards the sport of boxing. To them McGregor is just a mouthy cage fighter...... which is why so many of them instantly laugh at the notion of Conor even having so much as a puncher's chance.

As for hoping that on the 27th people who give Conor a chance come on here and admit that they were clueless....... that won't be happening...... as on the 27th McGregor will without question show (even if he loses) that people were wrong to say he had zero chance.

I have a feeling though that all you users that are sneering at the slim possibility that Conor could hurt Floyd in the early rounds...... will still insist that he had no chance even if he lands punches and holds his own for a few rounds. It's obvious what it would take for the likes of myself to say they got it wrong (Conor to land nothing and be schooled from the get-go) but what would it take for sneerers like yourself to admit that you were clueless is the real question.

hbhook

Floyd via DQ

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

It's not about them being biased towards Mayweather........... it's about them being biased towards the sport of boxing. To them McGregor is just a mouthy cage fighter...... which is why so many of them instantly laugh at the notion of Conor even having so much as a puncher's chance.

As for hoping that on the 27th people who give Conor a chance come on here and admit that they were clueless....... that won't be happening...... as on the 27th McGregor will without question show (even if he loses) that people were wrong to say he had zero chance.

I have a feeling though that all you users that are sneering at the slim possibility that Conor could hurt Floyd in the early rounds...... will still insist that he had no chance even if he lands punches and holds his own for a few rounds. It's obvious what it would take for the likes of myself to say they got it wrong (Conor to land nothing and be schooled from the get-go) but what would it take for sneerers like yourself to admit that you were clueless is the real question.

Dude or Dudete..MayPac is my only experience of a "Mega fight".
That is to say, a fight that EVERYONE is or was talking about...
Before the fight over on ringtv.com they did a poll taking in the opinions of about 30 very knowledgeable boxing people.
It was about 26-4 in favour of Mayweather....
Now I've detailed my opinion on that fight before but when I saw that before the fight I was thinking "Yeah but anything is possible". And yeah it's true but it's not going to happen. Floyd Mayweather has being practising boxing since he was 4 years old. He happens to be the best defensive fighter of his era.
If any style is gonna give him trouble it's gonna be the gung ho swarming style. If Mc tries that he's gonna be gassed by the end of round one and picked apart..easily...please? Watch the fight and let's all move on to Canelo v GGG and Paige van Zants next fight.
Take it for what it is.

everlast75

Floyd via DQ

StringerBell wrote: »

Came across this vid in work today, many a chuckle was had I must say. No punches pulled whatsoever and Kellerman bothers me a lot, but I have to say one of his first remarks is spot on "the lack of respect for the discipline is astonishing"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ9-CoLUz20

"6 established people who made their living from boxing in rant against someone who is challenging boxing" shocker!!!!



Look, I firmly believe FM will win, 99.9999% but I also believe there will be at least one moment in this fight where Conor lands one punch on the god-like FM, that will make a fair few on here have a little flutter in the stomach... cause them a little "**** - what If..???" moment.. and it'll take a big man to come back on here and admit it.

ThinkProgress

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote: »

That's why I said that the flow of the fight from Floyd is key..

If Floyd puts Conor under pressure, all kinds of pressure and also spooks him early then Conor may fold quickly. Conor better be able to relax and manage his engine, but not too relaxed in case he gets consistently whacked.

The whole fight and stage is Floyd's. Conor has no say here. All he has is hope.

Hope that Floyd doesn't wreck him too much and a very slim hope that he knocks Floyd out. He really is at Floyd's mercy.

Yeah, I see Floyd keeping this fight moving... He won't be allowing himself to get tied up with Conor...

He will fear what Conor might be planning in the clinch. But also, he knows if he keeps the fight flowing, and keeps a fast pace... Conor will likely not be able to live with that intensity!

Against well conditioned and younger boxers, Floyd is smart enough these days to slow the fight down and conserve his energy by holding on in the clinch as long as he needs to.

But I don't see him doing that in this fight, because he knows he is the better conditioned and far better skilled boxer!

From Conor's perspective, he needs to find any and every way possible to slow this fight down. He needs to get close to Floyd, rough him up in the clinch, dirty box... etc. He shouldn't worry about fouling or getting points deducted, as he is never going to win on points anyway! (the referee will probably be crucial to any slim hope Conor has in this regard)

But I agree with you, I don't really think Conor will have very much control over the flow of this fight... Floyd will run things his way. It really just depends whether Floyd wants to drag this thing out, or if he wants to finish it relatively quickly!

If this really is his last fight ever.... he might want to put on a bit of a show for the world, and give everyone a bit of a flashback to his younger days. I do think he'll want the finish... if it's there... but I don't see him going head hunting. I think he'll still be patient.

Eyes Down Field

Floyd via DQ

everlast75 wrote:

"6 established people who made their living from boxing in rant against someone who is challenging boxing" shocker!!!!

Not really. It's common sense for anyone who has some knowledge of Boxing and Floyd Mayweather's ability
Nobody in that video is from the Mayweather camp or has ties to the Showtime promotion. It's Floyd's last fight so they don't have anything to gain from it. Infact some of them are not particularly fond of the man. But as boxing people, they do respect his outstanding skill and ability in the ring

The most notably person in that clip is Paulie Malinaggi. He was speaking completely open and honestly right there. He has ofcouse changed his tune now that he getting paid my Showtime to cover the fight and also getting paid by McGregor to help him train.

everlast75 wrote:

Look, I firmly believe FM will win, 99.9999% but I also believe there will be at least one moment in this fight where Conor lands one punch on the god-like FM, that will make a fair few on here have a little flutter in the stomach... cause them a little "**** - what If..???" moment.. and it'll take a big man to come back on here and admit it.

I don't think he will have enough time to land a punch. I can't see the this going past the 3rd round. As Paulie Malinaggi said in the video. Conor is the worst boxer Mayweather has ever fought

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Blind Conor and blind MMA fans need to realise that if the situation was reversed there would be likely just as many in MMA ridiculing this and treating it with contempt. This is not boxing vs. MMA. It is, and should be boxing and MMA calling this what it is, a con job circus farce..

ThinkProgress

Floyd via DQ

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

It's not about them being biased towards Mayweather........... it's about them being biased towards the sport of boxing. To them McGregor is just a mouthy cage fighter...... which is why so many of them instantly laugh at the notion of Conor even having so much as a puncher's chance.

This is a boxing match, why wouldn't they be biased towards the sport of boxing?? Conor is going to be judged on his ability to win a boxing match! Simple as that.... this not a fight. His cage fighting skills are not really relevant to this contest.

Until Conor gets in a ring and proves he can be a boxer, and mix it with elite level boxers... he really IS just a mouthy cage fighter. That's not being disrespectful... that's just the truth!

As for hoping that on the 27th people who give Conor a chance come on here and admit that they were clueless....... that won't be happening...... as on the 27th McGregor will without question show (even if he loses) that people were wrong to say he had zero chance.

I have a feeling though that all you users that are sneering at the slim possibility that Conor could hurt Floyd in the early rounds...... will still insist that he had no chance even if he lands punches and holds his own for a few rounds. It's obvious what it would take for the likes of myself to say they got it wrong (Conor to land nothing and be schooled from the get-go) but what would it take for sneerers like yourself to admit that you were clueless is the real question.

If Conor acquits himself well, and shows more boxing ability and skill than we think he has... I will be the first to shower him in praise.

Even if he just manages to survive longer than I suspect he can... again I will give him credit for this.

All most people are guilty of on this thread, is using their brain by making a logical assessment of Conor's realistic chances in his pro boxing debut, against one of the greatest boxers to ever lace up a pair of gloves...

It's a highly skilled sport, just like MMA... it takes years of hard work and dedication to even have any hope of mastering these skills.

weldoninhio

Floyd via DQ

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

It's not about them being biased towards Mayweather........... it's about them being biased towards the sport of boxing. To them McGregor is just a mouthy cage fighter...... which is why so many of them instantly laugh at the notion of Conor even having so much as a puncher's chance.

As for hoping that on the 27th people who give Conor a chance come on here and admit that they were clueless....... that won't be happening...... as on the 27th McGregor will without question show (even if he loses) that people were wrong to say he had zero chance.

I have a feeling though that all you users that are sneering at the slim possibility that Conor could hurt Floyd in the early rounds...... will still insist that he had no chance even if he lands punches and holds his own for a few rounds. It's obvious what it would take for the likes of myself to say they got it wrong (Conor to land nothing and be schooled from the get-go) but what would it take for sneerers like yourself to admit that you were clueless is the real question.

This fight is literally "The Emperors New Clothes". People can say "what if McGregor does this, what if that happens" and believe he has a chance. It's ridiculous. He will literally be hammered by Mayweather and there will be nothing he can do. He'll be schooled on fight night. He literally has no chance. Not a punchers chance. No chance.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

This punchers chance hope is really just a desperate clutch job..

Without it there is 0.0 chance..with it...? Who cares...

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

You're all going the eat your words, the whole world's going to eat their words.

Burial.

Floyd via DQ

GerryDerpy wrote: »

You're all going the eat your words, the whole world's going to eat their words.

Oh yes please. Pizza, chicken, chocolate, ice cream, fanny.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

GerryDerpy wrote: »

You're all going the eat your words, the whole world's going to eat their words.

That was one of Conor's funny moments.

"I'm ouha here." 😆

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Conor via DQ

Anyone if the UK fight time has been confirmed?

Eyes Down Field

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote:

Blind Conor and blind MMA fans need to realise that if the situation was reversed there would be likely just as many in MMA ridiculing this and treating it with contempt. This is not boxing vs. MMA. It is, and should be boxing and MMA calling this what it is, a con job circus farce..

It's funny. Boxing fans generally accept that if this was MMA rules McGregor would win easily and early.

But MMA fans don't have the humility to accept that because It's Boxing rules, Mayweather will win easily and early. They don't respect the discipline.

Eyes Down Field

Floyd via DQ

walshb wrote:

Blind Conor and blind MMA fans need to realise that if the situation was reversed there would be likely just as many in MMA ridiculing this and treating it with contempt. This is not boxing vs. MMA. It is, and should be boxing and MMA calling this what it is, a con job circus farce..

It's funny. Boxing fans generally accept that if this was MMA rules McGregor would win easily and early.

But MMA fans don't have the humility to accept that because It's Boxing rules, Mayweather will win easily and early. They don't respect the discipline.

Outlaw Pete

Floyd via DQ

Eyes Down Field wrote: »

Boxing fans generally accept that if this was MMA rules McGregor would win easily and early........ but MMA fans don't have the humility to accept that because It's Boxing rules, Mayweather will win easily and early.

To compare McGregor fighting in a boxing ring........ with Mayweather fighting in the Octagon.............. is as about as absurd as it gets.

Has Floyd ever choked anyone out in his life? (other than one of his girlfriends I mean).
Has Floyd ever shown that he can defend against full body takedowns?
Has Floyd ever shown that he could withstand multiple leg kicks?
Has Floyd ever won a Novice MMA Championship in his teens?
Has Floyd ever even been properly trained at MMA?
Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope .Nope.

Now...........

Has McGregor ever shown that he can defend against being punched?
Has McGregor ever won a fight with just his punching skills alone?
Has McGregor ever successfully KO'd fighters unconscious with punches?
Has McGregor ever been trained to box?
Has McGregor ever won a Novice boxing championship?
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes!

Away off will your bullshit lads.

Conor hasn't earned this fight, that's true and the probability of him going the distance is almost non-existent, no argument there either......... but without question he has of course a chance that (at just 29-years-old) McGregor can hurt a 40-year-old Floyd given Conor's vast experience (and success) with punching and defending against being punched in combat sports.

To sneer at the possibility that his skills will be of use to him in a boxing ring (particularly with regards to the early rounds) just because they have so far only being shown to effect in MMA.............. is extremely bloody naive.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Chances wise is D only comparison that matters..

Stick to simplicity. Because it really is simple..

Conor has 0 chance and Floyd would also have 0 chance..

Throw in the clutching KO chance and both have the same patetic chance..as close to no chance as possible..

You have been trying to sell this early KO chance from the start..

It's a pathetic chance when you look at the situation, but it's your right to hope..

snowflaker

Floyd via DQ

Jaysus lads that dublin novice competition win has grown legs!

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

snowflaker wrote: »

Jaysus lads that dublin novice competition win has grown legs!

And nobody has even verified that it's genuine..

But the using it as some sort of reasoning here is just bonkers.

snowflaker

Floyd via DQ

Will anyone here pay for this farce?

hbhook

Floyd via DQ

snowflaker wrote: »

Will anyone here pay for this farce?

Imma probably chip in with some others whether that's money or beer. Some of my mates are quite excited for this so it's a good chance to get together. Plus it's boxing on the undercard. Jack v Cleverly in the works.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

snowflaker wrote: »

Will anyone here pay for this farce?

Of course...

I'm one...

Burial.

Floyd via DQ

A buddy of mine is a McGregor stan and has offered his place up for the fight so I'll watch it there. He has a lethal set up so it'll be grand. Usually I'd watch big important fights on my own due to other people distracting me from the fight but no need to be focused in for this...and it's not an important fight like Kovalev/Ward Golovkin/Canelo anyway.

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

There is a lot of talk about how McGregor's power will he diminished with the heavier gloves. This experiment seems to contradict that assertion;

https://youtu.be/wRmOOWPTRBs

Ultimate Seduction

4 weeks out and still no TV station or undercard announced. Crazy

snowflaker

Floyd via DQ

Stan???

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

GerryDerpy wrote: »

There is a lot of talk about how McGregor's power will he diminished with the heavier gloves. This experiment seems to contradict that assertion;

https://youtu.be/wRmOOWPTRBs

His power is being grossly exaggerated in the context of this event..

He's not a concussive KO hitter and does not deliver shots with the mechanics of a concussive KO hitter.

He is a precise/patient and calculated counter type hitter, who measures shots and uses range..

He will not KO Floyd with any head shot. Conor doesn't deliver shots with real out of blue venom.

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

walshb wrote: »

His power is being grossly exaggerated in the context of this event..

He's not a concussive KO hitter and does not deliver shots with the mechanics of a concussive KO hitter.

He is a precise/patient and calculated counter type hitter, who measures shots and uses range..

He will not KO Floyd with any head shot. Conor doesn't deliver shots with real out of blue venom.

I agree his power is likely exaggerated to sell the event.

But, according to ESPN sports science, McGregor hits harder than Mayweather. So by your reasoning, will Mayweather not KO McGregor? Will it be only possible to get a TKO through damage accumulation?

Sweet Science

Conor on points

Weeks have passed and I still cant understand

Grown men (or women) unable to accept the fact that a man they don't know personally , will lose badly in another sport to a man who is an all time great in that particular sport. Every bit of common sense points towards an easy win for the boxer against somebody who has never boxed professionally before and hasnt even boxed in the club scene in Dublin as an adult before

Its borderline creepy