Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

Ash.J.Williams

Conor via DQ

Sweet Science wrote: »

Weeks have passed and I still cant understand

Grown men (or women) unable to accept the fact that a man they don't know personally , will lose badly in another sport to a man who is an all time great in that particular sport. Every bit of common sense points towards an easy win for the boxer against somebody who has never boxed professionally before and hasnt even boxed in the club scene in Dublin as an adult before

Its borderline creepy

Great insight

Sweet Science

Conor on points

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

Great insight

Cheers

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

GerryDerpy wrote: »

I agree his power is likely exaggerated to sell the event.

But, according to ESPN sports science, McGregor hits harder than Mayweather. So by your reasoning, will Mayweather not KO McGregor? Will it be only possible to get a TKO through damage accumulation?

Conor's power has 0 to do with Floyd's, or Floyd's chances-abilities to KO Conor..

Conor's chin is untested in a pro boxing ring..

All this talk of knees and elbows and 4oz gloves this and that means nothing when Conor steps in the ring to potentially get hit flush, fast and completely unexpectedly, should Floyd really commit..

Said it many times, does not take huge force to KO a man..

Fiery mutant

That last sentence applies to Mayweather too.

Burial.

Floyd via DQ

One punch from each glove...solid data collection there. Cool science vid bro, needs some reliability and sh*t. The fact they used a human to administer the punch shows how stupid the designers of the 'experiment' are.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Fiery mutant wrote: »

That last sentence applies to Mayweather too.

True...

Difference being that Mayweather's boxing defence is far superior to Conor's..

Unless he sticks the chin out and says plant your full 850 lbs of force on me then it ain't happening..

Floyd, if hit "clean" likely rides the shot or shakes it off better than Conor..

Likely sees the shot quicker than Conor too..

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

walshb wrote: »

Conor's power has 0 to do with Floyd's, or Floyd's chances-abilities to KO Conor..

Conor's chin is untested in a pro boxing ring..

All this talk of knees and elbows and 4oz gloves this and that means nothing when Conor steps in the ring to potentially get hit flush, fast and completely unexpectedly, should Floyd really commit..

Said it many times, does not take huge force to KO a man..

So to summarise your point, and don't let me put words on your keyboard (?), it is the shot that one does not see coming? Therefore you give Floyd a great chance of KO, and Conor near zero chance.

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

Burial. wrote: »

One punch from each glove...solid data collection there. Cool science vid bro, needs some reliability and sh*t. The fact they used a human to administer the punch shows how stupid the designers of the 'experiment' are.

Well as someone who has a background in experimentation I do agree with you. But it is evidence nonetheless. If we have better evidence then we can discuss it.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

GerryDerpy wrote: »

So to summarise your point, and don't let me put words on your keyboard (?), it is the shot that one does not see coming? Therefore you give Floyd a great chance of KO, and Conor near zero chance.

Conor near 0 and Floyd a lot better chance of the KO..

No real need to point out why..

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

walshb wrote: »

Conor near 0 and Floyd a lot better chance of the KO..

No real need to point out why..

I would appreciate it if you explicitly say why.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

GerryDerpy wrote: »

I would appreciate it if you explicitly say why.

Really?

Well.. one is a pro boxer and the other isn't.

I'll take my chances that the pro boxer can land cleaner and easier on the non pro boxer than the other way round.

I also am betting that the boxer has the better defence than the non pro boxer..

And, one other possible reason. The pro boxer reacts to and takes a boxing shot that bit better than the non pro boxer..shakes it better and weathers any possible storm better.

DontThankMe

Conor via DQ

Really looking forward to this I'm after jumping on board the hype train so it's full stream ahead til fight night be great to see Mayweather get k'od even if there is a 0.0001% chance of it happening.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

DontThankMe wrote: »

if there is a 0.0001% chance of it happening.

You cocky bastid!😊

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

walshb wrote: »

Really?

Well.. one is a pro boxer and the other isn't.

I'll take my chances that the pro boxer can land cleaner and easier on the non pro boxer than the other way round.

I also am betting that the boxer has the better defence than the non pro boxer..

And, one other possible reason. The pro boxer reacts to and takes a boxing shot that bit better than the non pro boxer..shakes it better and weathers any possible storm better.

Sorry I didn't mean win in general. I am about 99% in for Mayweather to win. I was asking specifically about one KO'ing the other. Is it to do with being unaware of a punch rather than power??

Edit: Sorry again Walshb, your answer is for my question.

So you are using common sense, always a good start!

But I can't agree on your last point. We are talking about a punch in the face. I think you are seriously underestimating McGregors experience at getting punched.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Sorry I didn't mean win in general. I am about 99% in for Mayweather to win. I was asking specifically about one KO'ing the other. Is it to do with being unaware of a punch rather than power??

Edit: Sorry again Walshb, your answer is for my question.

Okey doke..

I suppose in a nutshell it really comes down to punch delivery and confidence in said delivery. Everything points to the ATG boxer just having too much in terms of delivery and timing and setting up and the mechanics of the punch(s).

Conor's chances of landing the shot clean enough and with enough power to KO such an experienced defensive great like Floyd, well, it's bordering ridiculous desperation.

Add in Mayweather's proven ability to take a good clean shots from boxers who are delivering skilled punches, and the ridiculous becomes the fantasy!

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

GerryDerpy wrote: »

But I can't agree on your last point. We are talking about a punch in the face. I think you are seriously underestimating McGregors experience at getting punched.

You may well be right, but to date he has not been hit like a pro boxer can hit. It's naive for anyone to use his MMA chin to say that it will be the same/very similar in a boxing match. Host of reasons for this.

I suppose he is kind of "lucky" that Floyd isn't a big hitter, but that's not to say that timing and speed and cleanness can't take Conor out.

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

walshb wrote: »

Okey doke..

I suppose in a nutshell it really comes down to punch delivery and confidence in said delivery. Everything points to the ATG boxer just having too much in terms of delivery and timing and setting up and the mechanics of the punch(s).

Conor's chances of landing the shot clean enough and with enough power to KO such an experienced defensive great line Floyd, well, it's bordering ridiculous desperation.

Add in Mayweather's proven ability to take a good clean shots from boxers who are delivering skilled punches, and the ridiculous becomes the fantasy!

Fantasy...like a Rocky movie :-) support the underdog walshey!

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

GerryDerpy wrote: »

Fantasy...like a Rocky movie :-) support the underdog walshey!

Problem with the Rocky movies is that Rocky should have been in the hospital long before his miraculous comebacks..

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

walshb wrote: »

You may well be right, but to date he has not been hit like a pro boxer can hit. It's naive for anyone to use his MMA chin to say that it will be the same/very similar in a boxing match. Host of reasons for this.

I suppose he is kind of "lucky" that Floyd isn't a big hitter, but that's not to say that timing and speed and cleanness can't take Conor out.

You may be right, we don't know. What we do know is that he is sparring top pros every day now so he won't be surprised when the first punch lands.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

GerryDerpy wrote: »

You may be right, we don't know. What we do know is that he is sparring top pros every day now so he won't be surprised when the first punch lands.

I was thinking that when replying..

Here is something I have been thinking..

As cocky and confident and sure of himself, what way will he be when he is actually in the ring with Floyd right before the bell? Could the enormity of the task and event really spook him?

And he ends up kind of gun shy and stiff and frozen? Then he truly is a lamb to the slaughter..

Plus, even used to taking shots in sparring whilst not under the spotlight, will Floyd's very sharp shots really buckle and bewilder him?

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

walshb wrote: »

I was thinking that when replying..

Here is something I have been thinking..

As cocky and confident and sure of himself, what way will he be when he is actually in the ring with Floyd right before the bell? Could the enormity of the task and event really spook him?

And he ends up kind of gun shy and stiff and frozen? Then he truly is a lamb to the slaughter..

Plus, even used to taking shots in sparring whilst not under the spotlight, will Floyd's very sharp shots really buckle and bewilder him?

I say this with respect walshey, coz I like you, but if you think McGregor will be overcome by the occasion then you are the deluded one!!

Ultimate Seduction

walshb wrote:

And he ends up kind of gun shy and stiff and frozen? Then he truly is a lamb to the slaughter..

You know nothing about Conor

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

GerryDerpy wrote: »

I say this with respect walshey, coz I like you, but if you think McGregor will be overcome by the occasion then you are the deluded one!!

I don't think it. Just asking..

Plus, he's only human..

Anyway. Only he will know if the occasion got to him..

Means little really, as he still has no chance. But if somehow the occasion does spook him, or the actual ring action and reality that he is like a boy competing with a man so to speak gets to him, the night may be a lot sadder for him.

And, for the record. He is not stepping into his house. He is stepping into an alien zone against a long time dweller. That may get to him fight time..

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

You know nothing about Conor

It's clear you have eff all to add or give, so don't sweat it.

Eyes Down Field

Floyd via DQ

Outlaw Pete wrote:

To compare McGregor fighting in a boxing ring........ with Mayweather fighting in the Octagon.............. is as about as absurd as it gets.

Outlaw Pete wrote:

Has Floyd ever choked anyone out in his life? (other than one of his girlfriends I mean)

Ah Now! That one's below the belt

Outlaw Pete wrote:

Has Floyd ever shown that he can defend against full body takedowns? Has Floyd ever shown that he could withstand multiple leg kicks? Has Floyd ever won a Novice MMA Championship in his teens? Has Floyd ever even been properly trained at MMA?

No! and he doesn't need to. Remember, this is boxing, If either fighter tries any of that, they win be DQ'd. McGregor being the one most likely to lose the fight by instinctively lifting a foot in a moment of pressure which could cost him more than the fight, it could cost him allot of money too

Outlaw Pete wrote:

Has McGregor ever shown that he can defend against being punched? Has McGregor ever won a fight with just his punching skills alone? Has McGregor ever successfully KO'd fighters unconscious with punches? Has McGregor ever been trained to box? Has McGregor ever won a Novice boxing championship?

Yes, BUT! Not against a professional boxer, And Mayweather is not just any boxer, He's the best boxer in the world and probably the greatest defensive boxer/counter puncher in the history of boxing. To compare those MMA stiffs boxing ability to Floyd is even more obsurd.

Outlaw Pete wrote:

To sneer at the possibility that his skills will be of use to him in a boxing ring (particularly with regards to the early rounds) just because they have so far only being shown to effect in MMA.............. is extremely bloody naive.

I will sneer at it. Conor is stepping into Floyd's world. Any of the novice level 'striking' skill that Conor brings from MMA will be completely useless to him. Floyd has boxed Manny Pacquiao, Canelo Alvarez, Miguel Cotto...etc. The hardest hitting, fastest hands, best boxers of this generation. So to think a novice level boxer who has never fought before has any chance of beating him is extremely nieve. McGregor will get eaten alive in there.

GerryDerpy

Conor via DQ

walshb wrote: »

I don't think it. Just asking..

Plus, he's only human..

Anyway. Only he will know if the occasion got to him..

Means little really, as he still has no chance. But if somehow the occasion does spook him, or the actual ring action and reality that he is like a boy competing with a man so to speak gets to him, the night may be a lot sadder for him.

And, for the record. He is not stepping into his house. He is stepping into an alien zone against a long time dweller. That may get to him fight time..

It's a fair question I guess. But I would be fairly sure that the cocky bastid will be in his element when the bell rings.

walshb

Floyd via KO-TKO

GerryDerpy wrote: »

It's a fair question I guess. But I would be fairly sure that the cocky bastid will be in his element when the bell rings.

Me too..

As much as I don't get and don't admire or respect some aspects of Conor and his journey and behaviours, I find myself respecting and appreciating his get up and go confidence and belief..

LollipopJimmy

Feck it. Calling it now... Conon wins

Eyes Down Field

Floyd via DQ

snowflaker wrote:

Will anyone here pay for this farce?

I haven't decided yet, But I'll probably end up doing it last minute.

Ultimate Seduction wrote:

4 weeks out and still no TV station or undercard announced. Crazy

All I have heard is Gervonta Davis will fight, which I am interested in seeing, He is an exciting young fighter. One of Mayweather's team.

snowflaker wrote:

Stan???

A Stan is a Fan who no matter what happens will stand by a team, person or thing they support.

hbhook

Floyd via DQ

Yeah but the price will put a lot of people off that last minute buy.