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General Season 11 / 13th Doctor Discussion

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  • Not a fan of her work in previous shows.

    Well okay I can take that reasoning. Not the The Doctors a female so not watching reaction. (Not saying that's you)




  • CastorTroy wrote: »
    If she can be quirky and they don't play up her gender too much, she'll be grand.

    I've seen her in a few different things, she's done straight up drama, full on comedy, a mix of both. I wouldn't worry about her ability to carry the role. As I said before I'm glad Moffat and co are gone because I wouldn't have trusted him with a female Doctor. The new guy, Chibnall, based purely on Broadchurch, seems to be at least capable of writing well developed characters.




  • She was great in Broadchurch (which also happened to be written by Chris Chibnall), so hopefully she'll have the stories to match




  • Doctor Who was one of the very few genuine good male role models left out there for young men sad to see that change I must say.

    Yes, they're are so few male lead roles left in tv...




  • Doctor Who was one of the very few genuine good male role models left out there for young men sad to see that change I must say.

    Why does the Doctor have to be male. The Master has been female for the last few seasons.


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  • After been forced to watch St. Trinians years ago, my patience for those actors is low

    She's in those for like 2 minutes.
    Doctor Who was one of the very few genuine good male role models left out there for young men sad to see that change I must say.

    I can see your point, to a degree, but I think we should be at a point in time now where boys don't think they can only be influenced by men. Same goes for girls with women. If the Doctor still has all the qualities of the previous 12 then why can't a young boy look up to her?




  • Great decision, she was great in Attack the Block too. Would have liked Richard Ayode myself but this is pretty awesome too.




  • snowflaker wrote: »
    You knew it was female by the frame

    Didn't myself by the angles at first. Looked too broad shouldered.




  • Ben Gadot wrote: »
    Didn't myself by the angles at first. Looked too broad shouldered.

    Same. I immediately thought it was too broad to be a woman.




  • I figured the second they were hiding the hair, it was a woman. If it was a guy with short hair, they'd have shown it but they were hiding her features.


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  • McLoughlin wrote: »
    Put up with allot of nonsense over past 10 years of Nu Who but kept watching out of habit but a female doctor feels too much of a desperate gimmick and is enough for me not to tune in.

    A regenerating alien time lord who battles unfathomable enemies to save a multitude of civilisations on a regular basis is believable but it's her being a woman that's the gimmick to far for you? Riiiiight.




  • Doctor Who was one of the very few genuine good male role models left out there for young men sad to see that change I must say.

    Young men have had several decades of a good male role model that aren't suddenly erased by this announcement, y'know! And female characters can be role models for young men, too!

    Let's hope this take on one of pop culture's most changeable, dynamic characters is remembered not only as a belated pioneer, but a genuinely worthy addition to a television tradition.




  • I was driving when the announcement was made - who is it? Olivia whatsherface?
    Edit: i see now, interesting. Don't know her at all really.
    I'll find it strange if it's not a guy anymore but sure looking forward to seeing how this goes!definitely not got a problem with it




  • Is the who point of been called The Doctor was to not distinguish a gender. As another post said the regeneration process is meant to be lottery you could have 2 heads, a tail, look like other species. So why not another gender. Those who chose to throw there toys out of the box and not watch because WAHHHHHHHHHHHHH the Doctor is a female should have a look at themselves. Now for someone who has a name like James Bond I be saying its a gimmick. Would still watch but be saying it was a gimmick




  • bluewolf wrote: »
    I was driving when the announcement was made - who is it? Olivia whatsherface?

    Jodie Whittaker




  • Ben Gadot wrote: »
    Didn't myself by the angles at first. Looked too broad shouldered.

    Thought that 2




  • Young men have had several decades of a good male role model that aren't suddenly erased by this announcement, y'know! And female characters can be role models for young men, too!

    Captain Picard, Superman, Professor Xavier and Malcolm Reynolds are all dead now, killed by the 13th Doctor. RIP.




  • Death blow for Doctor Who.




  • Blah.
    Meh.

    Wont be that interested in the next season.
    McLoughlin wrote: »
    Put up with allot of nonsense over past 10 years of Nu Who but kept watching out of habit but a female doctor feels too much of a desperate gimmick and is enough for me not to tune in.
    Doctor Who was one of the very few genuine good male role models left out there for young men sad to see that change I must say.

    +1 Yep, Game Over for me. There has been more than enough Right On BBC style ham fisted virtue signalling and gender politics in the last while, so this hardly comes as a shock.
    Why does the Doctor have to be male. The Master has been female for the last few seasons.
    Which was also a gimmick.
    Now for someone who has a name like James Bond I be saying its a gimmick. Would still watch but be saying it was a gimmick
    Jesus.
    A regenerating alien time lord who battles unfathomable enemies to save a multitude of civilisations on a regular basis is believable but it's her being a woman that's the gimmick to far for you? Riiiiight.
    Yep, because it's BBC politics playing fast and loose.
    Young men have had several decades of a good male role model that aren't suddenly erased by this announcement, y'know! And female characters can be role models for young men, too!
    I disagree. And look at the current crop of fantasy/sci fi shows. Even where the men are leads they're regularly seen as a bit silly and need a woman to steer them right.
    CastorTroy wrote: »
    If she can be quirky and they don't play up her gender too much, she'll be grand.
    "they don't play up her gender too much"? The last series was all about that kind of nonsense.

    So yeah...

    headdesk.jpg?w=240

    Few enough were innocent in the past, few enough are innocent in the present, we just don’t know why yet.





  • I absolutely and utterly love missy. Michelle gomez is fantastic.
    Hey missy you so fine


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  • Wibbs wrote: »
    +1 Yep, Game Over for me. There has been more than enough Right On BBC style ham fisted virtue signalling and gender politics in the last while, so this hardly comes as a shock.

    Which was also a gimmick.

    Jesus.

    Yep, because it's BBC politics playing fast and loose.

    I disagree. And look at the current crop of fantasy/sci fi shows. Even where the men are leads they're regularly seen as a bit silly and need a woman to steer them right.

    "they don't play up her gender too much"? The last series was all about that kind of nonsense.

    So yeah...

    headdesk.jpg?w=240

    May have been at the start but hey it worked and people like her character. Yes I think James Bond as a woman would be a gimmick but I would still watch to see if it was any good and make a decision to see if it would fit.

    But your stance of oh its a woman so be crap has to be a man and not watching to find out is crazy

    But hey your choice. Just do not det defensive when people point it out




  • ebbsy wrote: »
    Death blow for Doctor Who.

    Without even watching it.




  • My attitude with any casting choice for a character I know would be to write a list of ten characteristics about them, and see how many the casted actor hits.

    Admittedly, "The Doctor is a man" would be on that list, and Jodie doesn't hit it....but if she can hit the other 9, who cares if she misses what is, ultimately, one of the least significant ones.




  • Why does the doctor have to be a man?




  • Wibbs wrote: »
    +1 Yep, Game Over for me. There has been more than enough Right On BBC style ham fisted virtue signalling and gender politics in the last while, so this hardly comes as a shock.

    Which was also a gimmick.

    Jesus.

    Yep, because it's BBC politics playing fast and loose.

    I disagree. And look at the current crop of fantasy/sci fi shows. Even where the men are leads they're regularly seen as a bit silly and need a woman to steer them right.

    "they don't play up her gender too much"? The last series was all about that kind of nonsense.

    So yeah...

    headdesk.jpg?w=240

    Ay right. People have different opinions to yours. Best to ridicule......




  • Wibbs wrote: »
    +1 Yep, Game Over for me. There has been more than enough Right On BBC style ham fisted virtue signalling and gender politics in the last while, so this hardly comes as a shock.

    Which was also a gimmick.

    Jesus.

    Yep, because it's BBC politics playing fast and loose.

    I disagree. And look at the current crop of fantasy/sci fi shows. Even where the men are leads they're regularly seen as a bit silly and need a woman to steer them right.

    "they don't play up her gender too much"? The last series was all about that kind of nonsense.

    So yeah...

    headdesk.jpg?w=240

    Ay right. People have different opinions to yours. Best to ridicule......




  • The broflakes are out in force already it seems...




  • Wibbs wrote: »
    "they don't play up her gender too much"? The last series was all about that kind of nonsense.

    So yeah...

    Pretty sure it was a man playing the Doctor in the last season


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  • Lord TSC wrote: »
    My attitude with any casting choice for a character I know would be to write a list of ten characteristics about them, and see how many the casted actor hits.

    Admittedly, "The Doctor is a man" would be on that list, and Jodie doesn't hit it....but if she can hit the other 9, who cares if she misses what is, ultimately, one of the least significant ones.

    Quite a sensible way to see it.

    Unlike the previously mentioned James Bond whose maleness is so essential to the character that changing that one characteristic would invalidate her/him.


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