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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Boxing press conferences are a waste of time, wont be anything like a UFC one where anything goes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,339 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote: »
    Boxing press conferences are a waste of time, wont be anything like a UFC one where anything goes.

    Hi Dana!

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,452 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Gamebred wrote: »
    Boxing press conferences are a waste of time, wont be anything like a UFC one where anything goes.

    That's because boxing has always been a far more civilized sport!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    walshb wrote: »
    That's because boxing has always been a far more civilized sport!

    I totally agree with you :P
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,452 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    You'll always get a few bad apples!:p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭Syphonax


    McGregors lame impressions of Ali are boring and not entertaining.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    Syphonax wrote: »
    McGregors lame impressions of Ali are boring and not entertaining.

    Its hard to argue that McGregor is not entertaining. In fairness to him I think he's a terrific show man. He's basically been carrying the UFC on his shoulders the last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 448 ✭✭Syphonax


    Its hard to argue that McGregor is not entertaining. In fairness to him I think he's a terrific show man. He's basically been carrying the UFC on his shoulders the last year.

    True but I cant take to him, the man has no class.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Syphonax wrote: »
    True but I cant take to him, the man has no class.


    Much have you donated to charties? I'd say hes given your yearly salary to homeless in Dublin, not to mention his visit to crumlin hospital last week, no class though good man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,452 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Gamebred wrote: »
    Much have you donated to charties? I'd say hes given your yearly salary to homeless in Dublin, not to mention his visit to crumlin hospital last week, no class though good man.

    And there are examples where one could argue he has no class.

    I never got this buzz where a few examples of celebrities doing stuff meant they were classy.

    Just look to Aintree to decide about class....

    Conor may be a gem in real life and away from the cameras, but for most of us we can't know or experience this, hence we go on what he does in public.

    Examples for both sides of the argument...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Floyd via DQ
    Its hard to argue that McGregor is not entertaining. In fairness to him I think he's a terrific show man. He's basically been carrying the UFC on his shoulders the last year.

    He is when he's chatting off the cuff. I think a few of his recent pressers have been pre-prepared. Comes across stiff, boring and unfunny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote: »
    Much have you donated to charties? I'd say hes given your yearly salary to homeless in Dublin, not to mention his visit to crumlin hospital last week, no class though good man.

    Yes, because you can buy class by giving money to charity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,452 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    He is when he's chatting off the cuff. I think a few of his recent pressers have been pre-prepared. Comes across stiff, boring and unfunny.

    I personally was never impressed with the pressers. Far too scripted and contrived. Trying too hard...and the incessant use of swear words is not something I like. Unable to argue one's point or articulate one's self without resorting to effing and blinding.....no, not for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,452 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Yes, because you can buy class by giving money to charity.

    That's just it. You cannot buy style or class.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    walshb wrote: »
    And there are examples where one could argue he has no class.

    I never got this buzz where a few examples of celebrities doing stuff meant they were classy.

    Just look to Aintree to decide about class....

    Conor may be a gem in real life and away from the cameras, but for most of us we can't know or experience this, hence we go on what he does in public.

    Examples for both sides of the argument...


    This is what im saying the no class thing is his showman persona, people swallowing that are idiots hes creating attention (haters included who wanna see him ko'd), as a man he is a gent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,452 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Gamebred wrote: »
    This is what im saying the no class thing is his showman persona, people swallowing that are idiots hes creating attention (haters included who wanna see him ko'd), as a man he is a gent.

    I have never met Conor so I cannot comment on what he is like in a general and out of the limelight sense.

    He does make me laugh sometimes with his comments. The one where he was ranting and raving about the world eating their words when he beats Floyd was genuinely funny. I think it was post Michael Conloan's pro debut...Maybe pre?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote: »
    This is what im saying the no class thing is his showman persona, people swallowing that are idiots hes creating attention (haters included who wanna see him ko'd), as a man he is a gent.

    So you're attacking a poster for commenting on the McGregor that the public see's? The only McGregor said poster probably has a chance to see?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    So you're attacking a poster for commenting on the McGregor that the public see's? The only McGregor said poster probably has a chance to see?


    Yeah attacking him through the computer screen ffs get a grip, anyone with a working brain can tell hes putting on a wwe persona years now, to call him classless for fight promotion is ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote: »
    Yeah attacking him through the computer screen ffs get a grip, anyone with a working brain can tell hes putting on a wwe persona years now, to call him classless for fight promotion is ridiculous.

    He acts that way outside of the promotion gigs Gamebred, personally as I have already said I think he's entertaining but you cant be getting all high and mighty about his charity works when he acts like a knob a lot of the time in public.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Floyd via DQ
    Syphonax wrote: »
    True but I cant take to him, the man has no class.

    You won't find Conor dogging out his father publicly, knocking out opponents unsportsmanlike and/or beating women.

    Don't confuse the man with the trash talker.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 761 ✭✭✭GerryDerpy


    Conor via DQ
    Well I heard it all from the boxing fans now - McGregor has no class. What about the wife beater? The girls collection thing is classy eh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,452 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    GerryDerpy wrote: »
    Well I heard it all from the boxing fans now - McGregor has no class. What about the wife beater? The girls collection thing is classy eh?

    Mayweather and class don't go together in my book.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


    Floyd via DQ
    Mellor wrote: »
    You're essentially proving my point tbh. John's answer was blunt sure, but that doesn't make it automatically incorrect. He obviously has an extensive grappling knowledge.
    Anyone who has any sort of interest in grappling, is aware of the history of various arts. A lot of them are simply not very good. Japanese jujitsu went down to make believe route a century ago. Akido is worse tbh. Just not a lot of solid grappling. And this would be evident up by the last 20 years of grappling and MMA results. It's fairly common knowledge at this point.

    So when John disregarded your question bluntly. It was because it was that trivial tbh. 3 billion people, lots of martial artists, lots of fantasy ninjas.


    As for why it's relevant. As I said above, it's the same situation here. Some "Conor Fanboy" gets told bluntly that MMA striking is not cut out for elite boxing, and throws a strop. To everyone looking on, it's a fairly reasonable fact. But the blind can't see.

    Well, I think it was a lazy answer... Just because he can grapple, doesn't mean his world-wide knowledge of the grappling arts is comprehensive.

    He either didn't have an answer, or just didn't feel like giving one. I poked some fun at his reply, because I felt that's what it deserved. He got a bit touchy and decided to paint me as a racist. Classy stuff!! lol

    It certainly isn't trivial that the spiritual home of martial arts can't produce any top class MMA stars... perhaps if the skills were no longer popular, it might be more easy to dismiss. But that is not the case... there is still very strong interest and participation levels over there. And contrary to the picture you are trying paint, there certainly still is plenty of skilled grappling being taught in many parts of the region!

    Anyway, I'm done talking about that AMA. The damn thing closed like 2 weeks ago... it's a bit pathetic to still be dragging it up on a completely separate forum.

    If you want to keep going, knock yourself out. (:pac:) But I'm done!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭ThinkProgress


    Floyd via DQ
    You're attacking an argument that I never made... classic strawman. I don't think that. Never said it. Never implied it.

    I've got news for you...

    To people who know a bit about this sport, every time you suggest that Conor should be given greater respect in a boxing ring. Or that you think he has a chance in the early rounds... you are in fact, sh!tting all over the sport and the skills that have taken FM to the top of it.

    Whether you mean to or not, is not really the point.
    1) he's not my hero

    "He's got a chance dammit... he's got a chance!!" :D
    I give him next to no chance (slim is next to none - that's what it means, chief)

    Ok, if you say so.... skipper!!(:pac::pac::pac:)...
    I addressed all points put to me.

    Of course you did, skipper... like a boss!! :p
    Untrue, as users even posted on the thread commenting on John's answers to questions I had asked him regarding not shaking Floyd's hand etc. I also asked him about steroid use and how he would react if he found a fighter using and also how a suicide of one the instructors affected him professionally. Mainly one line questions...... as I didn't arrogantly think questions in the form of essays would be appropriate.

    - We already knew his thoughts on shaking floyd's hand. Widely reported.

    - What, did you expect him to endorse steroid use in MMA? lol

    - That last one is a bit rude. You don't know the man... none of your beeswax tbh. (it's also fairly obvious that a suicide would be troubling to him or anyone else connected)

    You fanboys really want all the dirty details, eh?
    Your constant use of smileys ain't fooling anyone (other than your chums that is). It's clear you are bothered and it's clear you were trying to turn the AMA into being about you and attempting to spotlight what you had to say than showing any real interest in what JK had to say.

    Hey, lay off my smilies... (they help convey my colorful personality) :P:P

    I had plenty interest in what JK had to say... but I wasn't particularly impressed with his efforts in that AMA tbh. I guess some people are just more easily entertained/impressed than others! ;)
    Yet another smiley.... you're trying so hard to come across as if you're smiling but it's clear you banged all this crap into your keyboard with butthurt aggression. If I wanted likes, I would hardly look for them on a Boxing forum by positing positive things about an mma fighter now would I. Maybe make some sense next time you post.

    What the fcuk have you got against smilies...?? If you think this is bad... just be thankful you don't have to read my text messages!!! :pac::pac:
    It's not "unrealistic" to give McGregor a "slim chance" of winning

    Any chance you might indulge us, in how you invisage that "slim chance" playing out in the actual boxing match...??

    I'd love to read your fleshed out view on how you see it all going down... (in the unlikely event that Conor does in fact take his "slim chance")

    Firstly, nobody is worked up but you. Yourself and walshie seem obsessed with saying people are worked up or taking things personally when they're not. Secondly, it wasn't a throwaway comment as it has been said in the mma forum also. It's an idiotic thing to say but shows the level of fanboiism we're dealing with here that anywould honestly believe such a thing.

    Put it this way... I find it highly unlikely, that walshb was attempting to start some big discussion on the merits of one-handed boxing! :p

    I think everyone else sensed that... hence why the post drifted harmlessly away, without much hassle. But for some reason, it seemed to enrage you! (I wonder why that is?) ;)
    So one minute you argue that it was a throwaway comment......... and then the next you are trying to justify and give credence to the moronic opinion that Floyd could win with one fucking arm. Open a window, chief. You're showing signs of oxygen deprivation.

    The truth is, we don't really know. There have been some examples, like I alluded to, where boxers have damaged their hands mid-fight... so the point is, it's not really moronic.

    There is just a lack of historical precedence for any real meat and bones discussion on it. (if anyone except you, actually had the desire for such)

    Floyd does have two very good hands, though. Both better than McGregor's in a boxing ring... he's deadly accurate with either paw. I certainly wouldn't be ruling it out as "moronic"...

    It certainly is amusing to think about though! But I reckon this thing will be embarrassing enough for Conor, without the need to add any more humiliation!
    The point was that there are certain ways of him approaching this fight which would advance his admittedly slim chances of winning. You're not making any good points here. You say merely fighting Floyd is playing into his hands. Seriously, wake up. McGregor will earn more money this fight than he has ever earned before and perhaps will again (on one night at least) and so he's playing into nobody's hands by taking the fight.

    Like what, for example...??

    Please, elaborate... I'm intrigued...

    Will Mr "Touch-butt" have any part to play in these special techniques!? :pac::pac:
    Look, most people accept his chances of winning are slim. If you don't want to comment on what tactics you feel might be best for Conor to adopt and which wouldn't, then stay out of the conversation as you're just embarrassing yourself by weakly and predictably sniping from the sidelines saying 'It doesn't matter, he'll get beat no matter what'.

    I don't really think there are any tactics he can use... aside from becoming a better boxer.

    I can think of a few ways he could take less damage, and avoid an early night eating the canvas. But in terms of actually winning the fight? Nope, nothing!

    But you obviously disagree... so please elaborate on what your thoughts are!?

    He was under prepared..... was supposed to fight at 155 and within 10 days that was changed to fight at 170.... also had a staph infection in the lead up.

    He was rubbish... against a rank average fighter!!

    And I'm no Conor hater btw... I enjoy watching him fight (in a cage, where he belongs)... and I gave him plenty of praise for all his fights previous to Diaz #1 and #2.
    He put Diaz on his back multiple times. A taller, heavier fighter.

    They both made the welterweight limit... Diaz is a scrawny f*cker... he's a natural 155lb fighter. (They both are!!)
    He didn't make a blunder.

    Yeah, he clearly did... that first fight was a trainwreck!

    The second was only marginally better. He still got dragged into a war, with a tough journeyman! Entertaining as hell, but not too impressive...

    Wrong, it's a fight. Like I said, inside three and Conor has a slim chance, if it goes to more than that..... then it becomes a boxing match and unless Floyd has been hurt somewhat in those early three rounds, it would then actually become a boxing clinic.

    There is no reason (in my mind) to think that the first 3 rounds, will be any less of a boxing match than any other round.

    Floyd is going in there to box the ears off Conor, from the first bell... he'll be conservative and cautious, as per usual, but he's still going to fighting his game.

    What factors make you think Conor can force Floyd into a fight??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Hasn't JK shook Steve Collins hand before ?

    I would also say Floyd has no idea who john kavanagh is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,452 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Froch mentioned that he would not be surprised if Conor didn't even get near Floyd let alone land a punch on him...not at all surprising.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    walshb wrote: »
    Froch mentioned that he would not be surprised if Conor didn't even get near Floyd let alone land a punch on him...not at all surprising.

    Think paddy's are offering under 50 landed as a special . looks like a good one to me .

    Look at OHara Davies the weekend . an actual boxer who was touted for a world title . He was made look like a novice and couldn't land . there are levels in this sport .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Draw
    walshb wrote: »
    Froch mentioned that he would not be surprised if Conor didn't even get near Floyd let alone land a punch on him...not at all surprising.

    In fairness though, for a former world champion boxer,what normally comes out of Froch's mouth is utter drivel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Sweet Science


    Conor on points
    Have some respect . He knocked George Groves out in front of 80k people at Wembley stadium


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,452 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    blade1 wrote: »
    In fairness though, for a former world champion boxer,what normally comes out of Froch's mouth is utter drivel.

    True..but not in this instance..

    Definitely the Floyd of old I would think would barely have-permit Conor in his striking range. He'd completely shut him down and bamboozle him.


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