Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

wonderfullife · 26-06-2017 01:49AM

Gamebred wrote: »

TKO, wont one punch ko him, same thing in betting terms ko/tko are deemed same in majority of bookies.

It's possible obviously but if Floyd is sticking and moving for 6 rounds he won't be stopping Conor that early, I think the accumulation of damage would take 8 or 9 rounds.

My suspicion is Conor will come out in round 1 with his arms wide in the air like the Mendes fight and start talking sh1t to Floyd straight away. "You hit like a b1tch", "No wonder you're only knocking women out" etc.

But he'll still be methodical enough like the Eddie fight, not taking any crazy risks. It's one thing dropping your hands and letting Chad Mendes puck the face off you, it's another letting Floyd do it.

Conor would need to be an absolute moron to underestimate him. He knows well how good Floyd is so I just can't see him swinging for the hills. Floyd will out-land Conor for sure but I don't think you'll see Conor being rocked or wobbled every round.

Depp · 26-06-2017 01:51AM

Gamebred wrote: »

On the face of it yes, but he aint been fighting amatuers with no boxing experience, my only worry is him breaking his hands again otherwise its over by 5 or 6.

His hands are a big one alright, hasn't he broken them in his last few? Its one factor that makes me think its unlikely he'll come out swinging heavy looking for the finish.

Gamebred · 26-06-2017 01:52AM

wonderfullife wrote: »

It's possible obviously but if Floyd is sticking and moving for 6 rounds he won't be stopping Conor that early, I think the accumulation of damage would take 8 or 9 rounds.

My suspicion is Conor will come out in round 1 with his arms wide in the air like the Mendes fight and start talking sh1t to Floyd straight away. "You hit like a b1tch", "No wonder you're only knocking women out" etc.

But he'll still be methodical enough like the Eddie fight, not taking any crazy risks. It's one thing dropping your hands and letting Chad Mendes puck the face off you, it's another letting Floyd do it.

Conor would need to be an absolute moron to underestimate him. He knows well how good Floyd is so I just can't see him swinging for the hills. Floyd will out-land Conor for sure but I don't think you'll see Conor being rocked or wobbled every round.

Been trying to find odds on his next fight, convinced its Woodley in Winter no idea why they havent made the Maia fight, 3 belts will be the aim imo what you reckon I think Woodley or Gsp.

wonderfullife · 26-06-2017 02:02AM

Gamebred wrote: »

Been trying to find odds on his next fight, convinced its Woodley in Winter no idea why they havent made the Maia fight, 3 belts will be the aim imo what you reckon I think Woodley or Gsp.

100% welterweight title shot (if it's Woodley champ) or GSP. If Maia has the belt forget about it, Conor's not going up just to be strangled.

Anybody thinking he will fight Tony or Khabib coming off Mayweather are off their rocker. There's also no way on Earth it'll be Diaz 3 either, that'll be tucked away in the back pocket in case Conor loses.

I think Dana's plan is either December 30th Conor v GSP to shatter all UFC records or Conor v Woodley on the November 11th MSG card.

I've been wrong plenty before but I don't think Conor gives a monkeys about defending straps, he just likes winning them.

26-06-2017 02:12AM

wonderfullife wrote: »

100% welterweight title shot (if it's Woodley champ) or GSP. If Maia has the belt forget about it, Conor's not going up just to be strangled.

Anybody thinking he will fight Tony or Khabib coming off Mayweather are off their rocker. There's also no way on Earth it'll be Diaz 3 either, that'll be tucked away in the back pocket in case Conor loses.

I think Dana's plan is either December 30th Conor v GSP to shatter all UFC records or Conor v Woodley on the November 11th MSG card.

I've been wrong plenty before but I don't think Conor gives a monkeys about defending straps, he just likes winning them.

Real champs defend their belt

Kirby · 26-06-2017 03:18AM

wonderfullife wrote: »

100% welterweight title shot (if it's Woodley champ) or GSP. If Maia has the belt forget about it, Conor's not going up just to be strangled.

Anybody thinking he will fight Tony or Khabib coming off Mayweather are off their rocker. There's also no way on Earth it'll be Diaz 3 either, that'll be tucked away in the back pocket in case Conor loses.

I think Dana's plan is either December 30th Conor v GSP to shatter all UFC records or Conor v Woodley on the November 11th MSG card.

I've been wrong plenty before but I don't think Conor gives a monkeys about defending straps, he just likes winning them.

I've said this before but I'm willing to bet anyone, any amount of money that the third Diaz fight never happens. Conor simply doesn't want it. There is easier money/glory to be had in virtually any other fight. He doesn't want to have to go another 5 rounds with Diaz and have to batter his own foot to bits again......which is exactly what he would have to do. He left the arena against Mendes, Aldo and Alvarez smiling....he left the arena after Diaz on crutches.

He got his revenge, he won't be going doing it again. GSP or Woodley will be the fights he goes for. Yes, Woodley could knock him into orbit, but Woodley can be knocked out and Conor knows that. The prospect of the WW belt probably also appeals to him.

Diaz pretty much cant be stopped. It's a terrible match up for Conor and he knows it. And Diaz doesn't have a belt. There is zero chance hes fighting him again.

Also regarding Maia, I very much doubt Conor would fear him. I'm a Maia fan, but his boxing his amatuerish and always has been. He is getting tagged on the way in for sure. Thats how Kavanagh would see it and I don't think they would run from him if Maia has the belt by then. Personally, I think the size would be too much and Maia could very well take him down and end it.....but Conor is nothing but not self-confident. He probably fancies his chances of tagging somebody so sloppy on their feet.

Depp · 26-06-2017 04:36AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Real champs defend their belt

If you beat a champion in a title fight at the weight they are champion at you then become ''the real champion'' of said division, crazy how people are still having difficulty understanding this its a fairly basic rule :rolleyes:

jcd5971 · 26-06-2017 06:30AM

Gamebred wrote:

I will be down the price of a holiday if Conor pulls off a win, I've laid 220e at 5/1 to 3 my mates and ive bet dinner on Floyd finishing it too so far, que Floyd rolling his ankle 30 seconds in.

Well you won't really, if the last bet you made here is anything to go by even if you lose it you will just refuse to honor the bet.

Easy Rod · 26-06-2017 09:30AM

9/1 Floyd to get knocked down and win on points is my bet.

Lukker- · 26-06-2017 09:34AM

Kirby wrote: »

I've said this before but I'm willing to bet anyone, any amount of money that the third Diaz fight never happens. Conor simply doesn't want it. There is easier money/glory to be had in virtually any other fight. He doesn't want to have to go another 5 rounds with Diaz and have to batter his own foot to bits again......which is exactly what he would have to do. He left the arena against Mendes, Aldo and Alvarez smiling....he left the arena after Diaz on crutches.

He got his revenge, he won't be going doing it again. GSP or Woodley will be the fights he goes for. Yes, Woodley could knock him into orbit, but Woodley can be knocked out and Conor knows that. The prospect of the WW belt probably also appeals to him.

Diaz pretty much cant be stopped. It's a terrible match up for Conor and he knows it. And Diaz doesn't have a belt. There is zero chance hes fighting him again.

Also regarding Maia, I very much doubt Conor would fear him. I'm a Maia fan, but his boxing his amatuerish and always has been. He is getting tagged on the way in for sure. Thats how Kavanagh would see it and I don't think they would run from him if Maia has the belt by then. Personally, I think the size would be too much and Maia could very well take him down and end it.....but Conor is nothing but not self-confident. He probably fancies his chances of tagging somebody so sloppy on their feet.

They will 100% fight again. Fight was too big not too. He'd fancy finishing him if they fought at 155. There is much tougher fights at LW imo.

walshb · 26-06-2017 09:37AM

Burial. wrote: »

To be fair he was technically knocked down against Judah...albeit more of a mishap in balance rather than from the shape counter punch. Nevertheless a flash knockdown. Floyd's got a chin like Hagler.

Come on, now. But in fairness, Hagler's chin was as much to do with his form in the ring. Tucked low and tight to the chest.

Conor hits hard enough to hurt Floyd, no doubt, but so do I.........

pastorbarrett · 26-06-2017 10:28AM

Kirby wrote: »

There is zero chance hes fighting him again.

He's on record twice (Facebook/Call of Duty interview & Manchester interview) saying 100% 'he'll throw down with Nate again.' It's definitely cash in the bank if/when a loss comes his way. It's conceivably the biggest prospective money fight the UFC have on its hands right now, and all parties involved know it too.

walshb wrote: »

Conor hits hard enough to hurt Floyd, no doubt, but so do I.........

DerrickL · 26-06-2017 11:20AM

Diaz outboxed McGregor. Not sure he wants Diaz again.

Ush1 · 26-06-2017 11:26AM

DerrickL wrote: »

Diaz outboxed McGregor. Not sure he wants Diaz again.

Not what I saw at all.

dashoonage · 26-06-2017 11:28AM

DerrickL wrote: »

Diaz outboxed McGregor. Not sure he wants Diaz again.

Oh no you didnt....

walshb · 26-06-2017 11:30AM

Conor dominated Diaz in fight 2 when they were standing!

Gamebred · 26-06-2017 11:31AM

jcd5971 wrote: »

Well you won't really, if the last bet you made here is anything to go by even if you lose it you will just refuse to honor the bet.

What are you talking about?

Sweet Science · 26-06-2017 11:34AM

Gamebred wrote: »

Floyd would be up ended if he rematched Canelo or fought GGG or even Spence, I think he was out of his prime quite some time before Berto his reflexes and speed arent like they were (still elite enough 2 years ago), this is the only fight he would attempt I wondered about Khan or Garcia but he came across this lottery ticket.

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He was happily in retirement . I'd say he cant believe his luck.

DerrickL · 26-06-2017 11:35AM

walshb wrote: »

Conor dominated Diaz in fight 2 when they were standing!

Diaz boxing fundamentals are far better. McGregor hoofed the lead leg and then threw his combinations.

He can't do that against Floyd

Lukker- · 26-06-2017 11:40AM

DerrickL wrote: »

Diaz boxing fundamentals are far better. McGregor hoofed the lead leg and then threw his combinations.

He can't do that against Floyd

Boxing fundamentals don't mean squat in MMA.

JJayoo · 26-06-2017 11:47AM

Fight not to go the distance is about as safe a bet as you can make, 2/5 on paddy

Ush1 · 26-06-2017 11:57AM

DerrickL wrote: »

Diaz boxing fundamentals are far better. McGregor hoofed the lead leg and then threw his combinations.

He can't do that against Floyd

Conor butchered him, he was faster and very accurate. If Diaz didn't have his insane chin and cardio, that fight would have been over early. Diazs reach became more of a factor when Conor slowed down.

And of course, I expect Floyd to tool McGregor up.

walshb · 26-06-2017 11:58AM

Lukker- wrote: »

Boxing fundamentals don't mean squat in MMA.

That's just not true. Being a good composed striker with good boxing can be very helpful in MMA. Many fights in MMA come down to hand striking. It's not all knees and take downs.

I wouldn't have statistic, but the arms and hands and throwing of punches are probably the most natural form of attack-combat known to man.

Subcomandante Marcos · 26-06-2017 12:04PM

Ush1 wrote: »

Conor butchered him, he was faster and very accurate. If Diaz didn't have his insane chin and cardio, that fight would have been over early. Diazs reach became more of a factor when Conor slowed down.

And of course, I expect Floyd to tool McGregor up.

Diaz had more strikes, more significant stiles, more head strikes, more body strikes, more strikes in the clinch.

Conor only out stuck him in terms of leg kicks.

Lukker- · 26-06-2017 12:04PM

walshb wrote: »

That's just not true. Being a good composed striker with good boxing can be very helpful in MMA. Many fights in MMA come down to hand striking. It's not all knees and take downs.

I wouldn't have statistic, but the arms and hands and throwing of punches are probably the most natural form of attack-combat known to man.

Boxing teaches terrible defence for MMA. Boxing techniques just aren't effective when you take into account the variety of attacks that can be used. From what I've seen boxers struggle far more than kickboxers/Muay Thai with the transition.

jcd5971 · 26-06-2017 12:04PM

Gamebred wrote:

What are you talking about?

I can't remember the exact details of it, but you made a bet with a person on boards to change your username and then never followed through, if I recall correctly it was something to do with pendred could be mistaken though.

Anyway my point was if you wouldn't follow through on a silly bet like that,then not a hope you'd follow through on an actual money bet.

Anyway doesn't matter was meant in. Kinda tounge in cheek manner anyway so just ignore it.

Lukker- · 26-06-2017 12:04PM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Diaz had more strikes, more significant stiles, more head strikes, more body strikes, more strikes in the clinch.

Conor only out stuck him in terms of leg kicks.

And damage, which is by the most important. Which isn't a statistic. A large portion of Diaz strikes are pitter patter or open hand, he only put power maybe 1 in 5.

Gamebred · 26-06-2017 12:07PM

jcd5971 wrote: »

I can't remember the exact details of it, but you made a bet with a person on boards to change your username and then never followed through, if I recall correctly it was something to do with pendred could be mistaken though.

Anyway my point was if you wouldn't follow through on a silly bet like that,then not a hope you'd follow through on an actual money bet.

Anyway doesn't matter was meant in. Kinda tounge in cheek manner anyway so just ignore it.

Eh how the **** am I supposed to change my username its down to the mod, tell axwell to fire away I remember it now was something about pendred.

Ush1 · 26-06-2017 12:08PM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Diaz had more strikes, more significant stiles, more head strikes, more body strikes, more strikes in the clinch.

Conor only out stuck him in terms of leg kicks.

More strikes thrown or more strikes landed? I don't know what the numbers are to be honest.

For instance the flurry at the end of the 2nd round I think it was, very little of what Diaz was throwing was landing clean.

From a technical stand point when both guys were fresh, McGregor looked the far better boxer in both fights for me.

He was able to slip Diazs jab and land counters. Of course fatigue and Diazs size made a difference but again, I'm just commenting from a technical standpoint on what I saw.

Subcomandante Marcos · 26-06-2017 12:08PM

Lukker- wrote: »

And damage, which is by the most important. Which isn't a statistic. A large portion of Diaz strikes are pitter patter or open hand, he only put power maybe 1 in 5.

Diaz got cut, which he always does, and a few flash knock down, Conor nearly got stopped, twice, only saving himself by doing his Sonia O'Sullivan impression.

Official Conor McGregor thread (part 3) *Updated Warning in 1st Post Re:Boxing match

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