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Fight Time From 4am-McGregor vs Mayweather**MOD Warning in 1st Post**

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  • #482
    CatFromHue
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,296 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Makes a show of boxing with Mayweather walking through McGregor

    I've mentioned this before but I really don't understand this.

    Mayweather is 40 years old and retired 2 years.

    McGregor is in his prime, has plenty of options in the UFC which have now been put on hold, so why does this make a show of boxing.

    If anything it it goes how everyone expects, with Mayweather winning very easily, it won't have any affect on boxing but will on MMA.


  • #483
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,921 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Floyd via DQ
    CatFromHue wrote: »
    I've mentioned this before but I really don't understand this.

    Mayweather is 40 years old and retired 2 years.

    McGregor is in his prime, has plenty of options in the UFC which have now been put on hold, so why does this make a show of boxing.

    If anything it it goes how everyone expects, with Mayweather winning very easily, it won't have any affect on boxing but will on MMA.

    Because you have to get a fighter out of retirement to fight him, and he has no real reason to either. Few hundred million in the bank but he wants more. If boxing as a sport wanted to maintain the up it is currently on, then this should be avoided.

    This is my opinion of course, from a purest point I would prefer this not to happen. Let McGregor have MMA, but I guess he wants the boxing money. Simple as.


  • #484
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,377 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Draw
    Gintonious wrote: »

    It could potentially ruin 2 sports. Makes a show of boxing with Mayweather walking through McGregor, and MMAs golden boy gets a pounding from a boxer.
    In not sure how it could ruin MMA?
    No more so than Usain Bolt in a boxing match would ruin sprinting.
    Two different sports, everyone knows it's a money spinner. Yet will still be one of the most watched fights in history. It's all our fault really.


  • #485
    Frank Bullitt
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    Floyd via DQ


    Just to remind everyone...


  • #486
    Eyes Down Field
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    Floyd via DQ
    I'm thinking Mayweather wins by technical knockout in the 2nd or 3rd round.


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  • #487
    Eyes Down Field
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    Floyd via DQ
    I'm thinking Mayweather wins by technical knockout in the 2nd or 3rd round.


  • #488
    Frank Bullitt
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    Floyd via DQ
    Mellor wrote: »
    In not sure how it could ruin MMA?
    No more so than Usain Bolt in a boxing match would ruin sprinting.
    Two different sports, everyone knows it's a money spinner. Yet will still be one of the most watched fights in history. It's all our fault really.

    To me, you put the best fighter in MMA in the ring to get schooled, I would see it as degrading the sport as a whole. One of the reasons why MMA is as big today is because of McGregor.


  • #489
    Morrison J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Floyd via DQ
    A man of his word.

    https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/499216955828895744


  • #490
    Morrison J
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Floyd via DQ
    Hopefully Mick Conlan can get himself on the undercard and give himself a great platform to fight on.

    Badou Jack v Nathan Claverley already in the works apparently which is a decent fight to be fair.


  • #491
    Jim Bob Scratcher
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    I think this would be a fairer fight for McConor :pac:


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  • #492
    Really Interested
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  • #493
    Gamebred
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Morrison J wrote: »
    Hopefully Mick Conlan can get himself on the undercard and give himself a great platform to fight on.

    Badou Jack v Nathan Claverley already in the works apparently which is a decent fight to be fair.


    There is precisely 0% chance of a golden boy fighter on it like Conlan.


  • #494
    Morrison J
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    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote: »
    There is precisely 0% chance of a golden boy fighter on it like Conlan.

    Conlan is with Top Rank.


  • #495
    Gamebred
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,269 ✭✭✭Gamebred


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Morrison J wrote: »
    Conlan is with Top Rank.

    sorry brainfart, same goes for old boy Arum surely.


  • #496
    shamrock55
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Its an utter farce that this thing is going ahead,a pure get rich quick scheme by these 2 and nothing to do with sport,mayweather is a money grabbing tosspot to lower boxing to this level,you cant blame mcgreggor though hes not even a boxer hes onto a winner whatever happens cos he always has the excuse that hes not a boxer when he gets his arse handed to him


  • #497
    Morrison J
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    Floyd via DQ
    Gamebred wrote: »
    sorry brainfart, same goes for old boy Arum surely.

    Like to think McGregor would have some sway to get him on given they're friendly. Prob a long shot like but surely a possibility. Conlan already talking about it on Twitter. Floyd's stable is hardly what I'd call deep.


  • #498
    Gamebred
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Morrison J wrote: »
    Like to think McGregor would have some sway to get him on given they're friendly. Prob a long shot like but surely a possibility. Conlan already talking about it on Twitter. Floyd's stable is hardly what I'd call deep.


    Davis Love or Badou Jack are his only real option, would be good for Davis make him a massive star.


  • #499
    vapor trails
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    Conor via DQ
    Here is a question I am trying to work the answer out. At what ages does Mayweather need to be for McGregor to be an even money shot assuming Conor remains the same age.

    For those not familiar in betting terms this is to 100%

    Floyd (40) V McGregor (28).........Betting Floyd 2/15 V McGregor 15/2
    Floyd (41) V McGregor (28).........Betting Floyd 1/6 V McGregor 6/1
    Floyd (42) V McGregor (28).........Betting Floyd 2/9 V McGregor 9/2
    Floyd (43) V McGregor (28).........Betting Floyd 1/3 V McGregor 3/1
    Floyd (44) V McGregor (28).........Betting Floyd 4/7 V McGregor 7/4
    Floyd (45) V McGregor (28).........Betting Floyd Evens V McGregor Evens

    The only reason why I mention this is because everyone is saying what a fighter Floyd is. Possibly the best of all time. What I'm backing here is age. I'm just turning 34 now, I feel old as ****. McGregor is 6 years younger than me and Floyd is 6 years older. If you dissect this purely based on boxing repertoire the conversation will only lead to one conclusion. I want someone to dissect for me the impact of being 40 and getting old as opposed to 28 and coming into prime.


  • #500
    Gamebred
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    vapor trails wrote: »
    Here is a question I am trying to work the answer out. At what ages does Mayweather need to be for McGregor to be an even money shot assuming Conor remains the same age.

    For those not familiar in betting terms this is to 100%

    Floyd (40) V McGregor (28).........Betting Floyd 2/15 V McGregor 15/2
    Floyd (41) V McGregor (28).........Betting Floyd 1/6 V McGregor 6/1
    Floyd (42) V McGregor (28).........Betting Floyd 2/9 V McGregor 9/2
    Floyd (43) V McGregor (28).........Betting Floyd 1/3 V McGregor 3/1
    Floyd (44) V McGregor (28).........Betting Floyd 4/7 V McGregor 7/4
    Floyd (45) V McGregor (28).........Betting Floyd Evens V McGregor Evens

    The only reason why I mention this is because everyone is saying what a fighter Floyd is. Possibly the best of all time. What I'm backing here is age. I'm just turning 34 now, I feel old as ****. McGregor is 6 years younger than me and Floyd is 6 years older. If you dissect this purely based on boxing repertoire the conversation will only lead to one conclusion. I want someone to dissect for me the impact of being 40 and getting old as opposed to 28 and coming into prime.


    Hes not a typical punch drunk boxer, sure his reflexs will be slower and not as fast but hes that far ahead it wont matter, he didnt get out shape too bad in the time off.


  • #501
    shamrock55
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    Im 40 and feel as strong and fit as i was when i was 30, mayweather is a million times fitter and well maintained then me im sure his age wont be a factor the only thing would maybe it might effect his speed and reactions slightly,his power or stamina i dont think would be effected


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  • #502
    vapor trails
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    Conor via DQ
    shamrock55 wrote: »
    Im 40 and feel as strong and fit as i was when i was 30, mayweather is a million times fitter and well maintained then me im sure his age wont be a factor the only thing would maybe it might effect his speed and reactions slightly,his power or stamina i dont think would be effected

    At what age does Mayweather have to be for McGregor to be an even money shot ?


  • #503
    Gamebred
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    Floyd via KO-TKO
    vapor trails wrote: »
    At what age does Mayweather have to be for McGregor to be an even money shot ?


    I would honestly say 55.


  • #504
    shamrock55
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,296 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    Floyd via KO-TKO
    vapor trails wrote: »
    At what age does Mayweather have to be for McGregor to be an even money shot ?

    Well Floyd's old man reckons he could kick his ass now and he's 65


  • #505
    RoryMac
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    Floyd via DQ
    vapor trails wrote: »
    At what age does Mayweather have to be for McGregor to be an even money shot ?

    I'd imagine McGregor's wild lifestyle will age him alot quicker than Mayweather's no drinking or smoking lifestyle.

    I'd honestly say McGregor never makes up the age gap


  • #506
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Conor via DQ
    vapor trails wrote: »
    At what age does Mayweather have to be for McGregor to be an even money shot ?

    Would say 47-49. But McG's odds might improve with each passing round, youth usually means less muscle fatigue, better stamina and faster reflexes.

    Would also depend on approach taken, both could go very defensive rather than the offensive. Fitness, and specifically energy recovery rate after each bell really depends on the individual.

    Statistically the most popular bet is FM R6,7,or 9 (aside from points win).
    R11 or 12 for FM are the worst for him.


  • #507
    Mellor
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    Draw
    Gintonious wrote: »
    To me, you put the best fighter in MMA in the ring to get schooled, I would see it as degrading the sport as a whole. One of the reasons why MMA is as big today is because of McGregor.
    But how it is degrading? You aren't explaining why, just repeating the same thing.

    It's a different sport, as people writing off McGregor are rightfully pointing out. There's no Shane in losing to the best ever in any sport, let alone one your debut.

    Was it embarrassing for boxing when Toney was disposed off with ease? No. He had no MMA exp.

    Same thing when a UFC fighter loses in a grappling match to a BJJ black belt. Happens all the time, nothing wrong with losing to a specialist


  • #508
    Donald Trump
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    Floyd via DQ
    RoryMac wrote: »
    vapor trails wrote: »
    At what age does Mayweather have to be for McGregor to be an even money shot ?

    I'd imagine McGregor's wild lifestyle will age him alot quicker than Mayweather's no drinking or smoking lifestyle.

    I'd honestly say McGregor never makes up the age gap

    Ah lads

    I will give McGregor his dues on overall fitness and conditioning (although that does not necessarily prove that his state is optimum for boxing). He is an athlete.

    Regardless, his condition is of no use if he can't hit anything and can't block or move what is coming at him. As I think that I might have said on here before - his conditioning would give him a decent stab at the likes of the intermediates although a naturally talented kid would probably beat him. You can talk about "amateur vs pro" fight but this is going to be a fast light tapping in and out round or two of prancing about. It's not going to be a typical grinding pro-style bout.

    I don't think a 28 year old McGregor even lays a glove on a 55 year old Mayweather if he is "55 year old fit". Whatever money he gets, none of it will be from me :-)

    Fair play to him for getting the money though. Assuming he keeps his hands up and doesn't get hurt!
    Maybe the best way I can put it is that lack of conditioning would hurt McGregor. Well at least in the sense that he would tire easier if he wasn't fit........although it might be better if he was put out of his misery sooner rather than later. Superb conditioning doesn't necessarily mean that he'll hit anything other than fresh air.


  • #509
    Donald Trump
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    Floyd via DQ
    Mellor wrote: »
    Gintonious wrote: »
    To me, you put the best fighter in MMA in the ring to get schooled, I would see it as degrading the sport as a whole. One of the reasons why MMA is as big today is because of McGregor.
    But how it is degrading? You aren't explaining why, just repeating the same thing.

    It's a different sport, as people writing off McGregor are rightfully pointing out. There's no Shane in losing to the best ever in any sport, let alone one your debut.

    Was it embarrassing for boxing when Toney was disposed off with ease? No. He had no MMA exp.

    Same thing when a UFC fighter loses in a grappling match to a BJJ black belt. Happens all the time, nothing wrong with losing to a specialist

    It degrades the sport by turning it into a novelty or freakshow rather than necessarily degrading the participants as individuals. Although you could argue that it degrades Mayweather for taking it on in the first place. Let him come back and fight the current top ranked boxer at his weight.

    I mean, how much credibility would it add to the sport if Golovkin or Joshua announced their next fight as being against someone who had won a couple of bouts in the Dublin boys leagues back in the day . How about Lomachenko vs Dublin novices 2007 winner? :)


  • #510
    Ultimate Seduction
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    Donald Trump wrote:
    It degrades the sport by turning it into a novelty or freakshow rather than necessarily degrading the participants as individuals. Although you could argue that it degrades Mayweather for taking it on in the first place. Let him come back and fight the current top ranked boxer at his weight.

    Donald Trump wrote:
    I mean, how much credibility would it add to the sport if Golovkin or Joshua announced their next fight as being against someone who had won a couple of bouts in the Dublin boys leagues back in the day . How about Lomachenko vs Dublin novices 2007 winner?


    I presume you were as outraged when Toney made the switch to MMA to fight Couture??


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  • #511
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    Floyd via DQ
    Donald Trump wrote: »
    .....

    Regardless, his condition is of no use if he can't hit anything and can't block or move what is coming at him. As I think that I might have said on here before - his conditioning would give him a decent stab at the likes of the intermediates although a naturally talented kid would probably beat him. ....

    Katie Taylor would easily beat mcgregor in boxing IMO. Easily.


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